US POLITICS: AMERICANS, PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW PRESIDENT... SCOTT BROWN!

out loud lol

Uh . . . lol? I think?

Federal authorities have arrested four men on felony charges for attempting to infiltrate Sen. Mary Landrieu’s New Orleans office, including one filmmaker who targeted the community group ACORN last year in undercover videos.

Among those arrested was 25-year-old James O’Keefe, the conservative filmmaker, along with Joseph Basel, Robert Flanagan and Stan Dai, all 24. They were charged with entering federal property under false pretenses and attempting to gain access to the Democrat’s office by posing as telephone repairmen, according to a copy of an FBI affidavit unsealed Tuesday.

The complaint said that Flanagan and Basel each entered the premises, wearing light green fluorescent vests, denim paints and blue work shirts, tool belts and hard-hats. They informed a member of Landrieu’s staff that they were telephone repairmen and requested access to the main telephone at the reception desk.

At that point, the two men allegedly attempted to manipulate telephones and accessed the telephone closet, saying they needed to work on the entire system. The men, who said they left their credentials in their vehicles, were arrested by the U.S. Marshal’s Service soon afterward.

According to the FBI, the four men could each face up to 10 years and a fine of $250,000 if they are convicted.

O’Keefe made waves last year when he posed as a pimp and taped ACORN employees discussing a prostitution ring, embarrassing the group and forcing many of its supporters to spurn its ties with it.

If dems actually cared about environmental causes they would wrestle the debate from "Um....its gonna cause sea levels to rise in 100 years" to "Look at these cancer rates. Pollution has a HUMAN cost and we're all paying it." Conservatives are successfully keeping it in Global Warming/Climate Change territory because its a vague and abstract problem that people don't really care about.

a spending freeze doesn't even seem smart from a jaded political perspective. Are people really going to swallow a spending freeze one year after a stimulus? I guess no one ever loses money underestimating the American public...

Especially one that excludes defense spending, which pretty much everyone agrees is overrun with waste.

^^^the right does not agree with that at all

Or John Murtha.

as far as i can tell this is a stupid move design to appeal to 1) "independents"--who dont actually exist and 2) "republicans"--who, since they have no policies besides hating nonwhites, dont give a shit

max you really think the main purpose of this is to appeal to a group of people - that the q of whether it's sound economic policy or not is secondary? and if so isn't that y'know...like...horrible? not bein sarcastic or anything just thinking how terrible if decisions that affect everybody are being made primarily out of the desire to please, or not to displease, a demographic

J0hn, this happens all the time!

seems to me that's patently obvious what's going on, particularly since this is just a "proposal" with no binding legislative authority behind it

would u care 2 elucid8?

^^^^^^^^^^ awesome Prince title

Gore and carbon-credit profiteers were phrased the climate change issue as one of melting glaciers and hurricanes.

At the Pentagon and UK Ministry of Defence planners expect precipitation shifts that will cause continuous famine in the subcontinent, Sahel, and southern margins of Europe, and are worried about a "brown horde" of climate refugees. Gwynne Dyer is the expert on think tank plans for mid-century climate wars and "Lifeboat Britain". It takes a while to layout the details, but some of my climate denialist relatives seemed more concerned with this than with the 6th mass extinction.

max you really think the main purpose of this is to appeal to a group of people - that the q of whether it's sound economic policy or not is secondary? and if so isn't that y'know...like...horrible? not bein sarcastic or anything just thinking how terrible if decisions that affect everybody are being made primarily out of the desire to please, or not to displease, a demographic

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:34 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah it almost definitely has nothing to do w/ "sound economic policy" because 1) its not sound economic policy, according to anyone, even conservative economists 2) it has no authority--this is the responsibility of congress not the WH and 3) the political reality is that the actual proposed cuts that the WH is suggesting--which im sure will be targeted at wasteful spending like ag subsidies--will never get past congress in a million years

and the question of "horrible" is... well... i mean to have opinions about this you have to operate at a lot of different levels right? otherwise youd kill yourself. i dont know. i guess it is.

I repeat: when FDR did in 1937, in response to the complaints of conservative Democrats, it nearly threw our economy over the abyss, again.

*when FDR did it

it would be best for the democratic party and everyone in general if evan bayh was voted out of office in november, frankly

and i am usually ok with a big tent

have to say i'm enjoying the acorn pimp "filmmaker" getting himself into serious deep shit. anything for a little cheer atm...

1) "independents"--who dont actually exist

come on dude

http://www.themonkeycage.org/2009/12/three_myths_about_political_in.html

have to say i'm enjoying the acorn pimp "filmmaker" getting himself into serious deep shit. anything for a little cheer atm...

That was the one heartwarming story of the day.

MYTH #3: Change in the opinions of independents is always consequential.

excuse me but please cite even one fuckn individual who subscribes to this posited "myth" - "always," indeed

"This is going to take crackerjack timing, Wang."

xp

If dems actually cared about environmental causes they would wrestle the debate from "Um....its gonna cause sea levels to rise in 100 years" to "Look at these cancer rates. Pollution has a HUMAN cost and we're all paying it." Conservatives are successfully keeping it in Global Warming/Climate Change territory because its a vague and abstract problem that people don't really care about.

― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:41 (Yesterday)

to be fair, all of the world's major coastal cities turning into Venetian clusterfucks would be a disaster at least on par with high cancer rates.

#1 cause of cancer: us living longer.
#1 cause of warming: us living.

/MYTH #3: Change in the opinions of independents is always consequential./

excuse me but please cite even one fuckn individual who subscribes to this posited "myth" - "always," indeed
--Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.)

haha jd u dont read many op-ed columnists do u

NPR already has snippets of Obama saying spending freezes were stupid. Played 3 clips of him repeating this mantra from 3 different debates v McCain.

lol

#1 cause of cancer: us living longer.
#1 cause of warming: us living.

#1 solution: kill everyone when they turn 30

http://filmgrounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/logans_run1.jpg

just watched that movie this week! I think it fucked me up when I was a kid

i was told the future would be all jenny agutter running around in a green napkin, everybody over 30 dead, living in a big mall. lyfe.

i only faintly remember the tv show. wait, it was on tv too, right?

Yeah it was called The Hills

ok lol @ alma mater :-/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqeOxfZ8PCE&feature=player_embedded

what a creep

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/alleged_phone_tamperer_is_young_nat-sec_expert.php?ref=fpa

not sure i'm gettin it. his credentials not legit but he fakes it well?

oh i dunno about the credentials--i mean id call them fake but theyre so bizarre & obscure that itd almost be more hilarious if they were real--i am just always weirded out by these hyperambitious 19-yr-old partisans, even moreso if they are arrested for trying to wiretap a senators office

dmouth was crawling with 19 y.o. hyperpartisan conservatives. it's not even that i disagree with them (i do) so much as it is that i think it's deeply, deeply weird to be a strident conservative when you're young.

kinda like what pj rourke said, "if you're a republican when you're young, you have no heart. if you're a democrat when you're old, you have no brain." i'd agree with the first part, totally: being a hard-nosed moralizing con when you're a teen or twenty something is either a) some new youthful contrarianism (people just don't GET me!) or b) a sign that you are kinda mentally ill.

People I knew at Dartmouth were not happy there because of these sheltered true believers. One of my friends had a conversion from repressed Republican asst for Congressman Gopher to full-on queer rights activist Democrat, but he went to St Olaf.

Ha -- here we have LOTS of young Republicans, always have. Thank their Cuban parents.

almost all of them give lip service to gay rights and don't give a shit about abortion. They just talk tough on national security and taxes.

castro really has been a shitty deal for everyone, hasn't he.

yup

"If you're a republican when you're young, you have no heart. if you're a democrat when you're old, you have no brain."

http://bucf.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/fidel_castro_dead.jpg

See, Albert, this is the thing. The vast majority of people don't really care about abortion either way as long as it doesn't become their own problem, so why some damn Senator feels entitled to fuck around 150 million women *and* call himself a Democrat, I do not know. I cannot believe that Nebraskans would vote for a Dem senator without expecting Dem policies, like respect for choice.

Grayson has just come up with a great soundbite: apparently HCR is trapped between 'the lazies and the crazies'.

You're not the first to call me Albert. Nor shall you be the last.

ome damn Senator feels entitled to fuck around 150 million women *and* call himself a Democrat

i can't really take any more Teddy encomiums...