New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

huh, you're right no gps chip. i just kinda assumed they would include one

that's some bullshit, right there

3g version has aGPS; wifi version doesn't

we demo for you this awesome maps application... which will be completely useless? ( I'm assuming the assisted gps listed on the specs page for the 3g model uses cell tower location to ballpark your position)

just occurrd to me that if bolted to the dashboard of your car this would be an awesome gps nav system/way to watch pr0n on the highway

― i'm with stupid ☞ (dyao), Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:45 AM

http://www.audio-ideas.com/interview/graphics/crash.gif

no wait agps is a real gps system

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

crisis averted

We've got an iMac and 2 iPhones; I think this would fit perfectly in with that.

Ditto. We also have an aging laptop that has about 1/2 the functionality of the iPad (too slow for streaming videos and there's a huge flaw in the middle of the screen anyway) that we only use to browse the web/check email from the couch, while seated in the same position as the fancy-jeaned fellow in the demo, even. We probably won't get 3G, however. The iPhone works better for me as a portable internet accessing device, and if I take the iPad with me on my commute, it will probably be as an e-book reader, which is a device that I also do not own yet was planning to buy when the right one came along. So it's kind of perfect for us.

OK so the good:

nice screen
good battery life
good to have both the 3G and Wifi options
There will be some awesome apps for this

and the bad:

No webcam is boneheaded in the extreme
No multitasking, I'm not asking for much but the ability to VOIP and browse at the same time or watch a video and make notes at the same time
VGA out and not HDMI
No 720p out
No Stylus (ok so this may come as third party but the killer app for me is PDF annotations)
No Inkwell - I'm hoping both stylus and inkwell come as a future update. I can understand a strategic move of not wanting handwriting recognition to be a major feature initially, but Apples HW recognition has come a long way since the newton and this thing has more than enough power to make it work
No ability to use this a a secondary display or control surface for the mac, although hopefully there will be an app for that soon
I'm hoping that the USB dock connector will allow more than just mass storage devices because there could be some cool peripherals

http://www.tnr.com/article/the-pc-officially-died-today

RIP technology journalism

okay, I have a friend who is a tech analyst prone to rapturous all-or-nothing pronouncements and even he would find this article retarded, mostly because of the furious backpedaling in the second half

No webcam is boneheaded in the extreme

I think they probably realise this. I'm sure it will be added later, as happened on iPhone. Actually, I think a lot of your list of bad things is not structural and will be fixed by software or later iterations.

The really bad thing is not going to change, and that is http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/ipad.

No Stylus (ok so this may come as third party but the killer app for me is PDF annotations)

yeah, this.

HW annotation + Papers = swoooon

Scik Mouthy's pics remind me of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieEFh3dE9cI

also there is no way in hell "the computer" is going away anytime soon. scientists and intensive media production both <3 unix/apple and i srsly doubt anyone wants to make avatar on the iPad

the return of a division between "home" computing and "workstations" does not seem that farfetched to me, although i got one sentence into that article

I don't agree with that article that it's merely a matter of Jobs' desire for control. What's clear is that the App Store's way of distributing content, like Xbox Live, is severely threatened by piracy, esp. since piracy is nearly as easy as buying (or in the case of books, infinitely easier). That threatens content producers' business models, obviously. But these closed "ecosystems" like xbla and the App Store change this, by eliminating things like access to the file system. And for a lot of people the ease of xbla or the app store makes up for that loss of freedom. So I can see why this is a possible future, even if it's not my personal preference.

"that article" = the one caek linked to, not the crazy one before

yeah, I don't by his inference of _why_ apple are doing this

by = buy

oh if you put it that way, yeah. xp to caek

but dude was saying that he wouldn't be surprised if apple phased out OS X in favor of iPhone OS and did away with "computers" completely and isn't that horrible for democracy because they rule the app store with an iron fist

What's clear is that the App Store's way of distributing content, like Xbox Live, is severely threatened by piracy

this is equally true of windows and os x. i'm not buying it as the reason either.

ill be happy if were alive in 10 years tbh, whether or not we have computers

whatever the reason, i am pathologically opposed to what is going on, and not just because i am a "power user"

HW annotation + Papers = swoooon

― his power told him (about the fish) (gbx), Thursday, 28 January 2010 12:11 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

although quite frankly I wish they enable editing of annotations in rather than having to open the paper in preview to do so in the Mac version. Also they have been promising new and exciting things for over 6 months now and are yet to deliver.

i will be happy if you are alive in ten years max!

glad we can find some common ground

i don't get the legal side of this, but i would love to see the E.U. take them downtown for this bullshit

just jailbroke my phone yesterday btw

I think the closed shop is all about maintaining the "it just works" reputation, at least for consumer users. I think it is an expectation that a phone doesn't crash or catch viruses, however Apple seem to be a little over cautious. OS X is very hard to break, and I poke around where steve doesn't want me to.

if I get one of these I'd consider jail breaking it and I probably wouldn't with an iPhone, depends what's in and outside the wall. However sign me up for an OS X version of this, an iPad Pro if you will.

I don’t know why they’re doing it. It’s hard to see how it makes them more money.

...

not only does the hardware have to be flawless, the software must be too. And the only way to ensure that is to have Apple approve every inch of it.

think you just answered your own question dude (or what Ed said) (fwiw this is also the reason why you can't multitask. i can't tell you the number of times i've wished my parents weren't able to open excel, powerpoint, quicken, word, outlook, and like five other things, and then get me to "troubleshoot" why an HD embedded video wasn't playing smoothly)

still hate it that instapaper can't update in the background, though - memory-resident apps are just not doable on iphone OS which is pretty limiting

still, apps start up and shut down instantly - maybe the first OS i've ever seen where that's the case

I think it would be hard for the EU to characterise this as a monopoly, it competes against other devices and software and the environment is open to anyone who obeys the standards. The French tried and failed to break the walled garden and it didn't work. I think that the business model may turn out to be flawed though, as was pointed out on Ars Technica its not terribly dissimilar to AOL back in the day, initially people like the close support but eventually they feel mollycoddled.

if programs are built so that they re-open at the exact same state they were when u closed them, and they do it quick, how necessary is multi-tasking anyway?

yeah but let's say i want to do some gmail chat with you s10cki. then when i want to browse my music for a second, our chat gets disconnected :/

would be nice to play music while I work on a document

why are you guys gchatting with each other when youre not even facebook friends

that was part of the joke, max

thanks for explaining

like s1ocki would resort to chatting with ilxors in his personal zone

i didnt get it

apparently u did

and tried to capitalize on it

still waiting for an OS where you don't "open" or "shut down" apps at all, they're just always running - i guess we don't have enough RAM for that yet

if programs are built so that they re-open at the exact same state they were when u closed them, and they do it quick, how necessary is multi-tasking anyway?

― scent of a wolfman (s1ocki), Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:29 PM

constant closing/opening vs. multiple things open at once

i guess we don't have enough RAM for that yet

no, apple won't allow it!

http://www.quickpwn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jailbreak-ipad1.jpg

i assume iphone 4.0 will let you change the home screen background

other thought:

was reading the knife thread which has a link to the knife's site to stream the new album. i wouldn't be able to stream that on the ipad, right? that is frustrating. more crying.

no flash

it sounds like ass, so let's have no tears, big guy