US POLITICS: AMERICANS, PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW PRESIDENT... SCOTT BROWN!

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I only lost my balls once, when McCain got nominated. And that hurt.

Hey Shakey--how about the time that Obama lied about having HCR negotiations on CSPAN?

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

that wasn't in the SOTU

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

did don bet his balls or

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

if you bet your balls you'll probably get 2-to-1 odds

i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

who will get dons balls if he loses the bet

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

getting don's balls--not sure that's "winning"

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

and if yr referring to Reid making backroom deals with Ben Nelson, for example, that's kinda Reid's fault and not Obama's, no?

cuz otherwise I'm pretty sure CSPAN televised all the Senate/House floor proceedings on healthcare just like they do for every other issue...

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The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

"Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests – including foreign corporations – to spend without limit in our elections."

It was not a century of law.

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

WHAT A LIAR

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

YOU LIE OBAMA

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

NOT A CENTURY

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

IMPEACH THE LIAR

max, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

"Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests – including foreign corporations – to spend without limit in our elections."

It was not a century of law.

― Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:49 (11 seconds ago)

The law at issue had been on the books for over 100 years. Yes, you can argue that this doesn't mean the "law" had been static for 100 years. But it's not a lie, dude.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Ken Burns Presents
1900-2000: A Century of Balls

tonight on PBS

i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

guys the National Review wouldn't lie

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

The law at issue had been on the books for over 100 years. Yes, you can argue that this doesn't mean the "law" had been static for 100 years. But it's not a lie, dude.

The Court was not addressing a century of law or even a century of precedent. It overturned two decisions from the past 15 years. Obama's comments are so misleading--coming from a ConLaw prof--that they essentially laws. And that's my point--you couldn't make his statements in a ConLaw classroom and get away with it.

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

err, that "they are lies"

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Obama didn't need to stretch the truth like he did. Or even lie.

Meanwhile, I'm going to go bet my balls on something else. Probably beer.

Obama needs a John McCone (Dandy Don Weiner), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

better bet

u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link

if you don't think foreign money won't find its way through "American" companies and into party coffers because of this law you are either deliberately misreading the law/being a moron/are a partisan hack. I don't even know how you credibly establish the nationality of a corporation, its not like they have birth certificates and passports.

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The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Monsanto Italian? Is Microsoft American? Is BP really British?

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

kinda kidding here but only sorta (yes I know Monsanto is not Italian)

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but here's Cspan's vid of the event

kingfish, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

But from 8 to 10 PM Eastern tonight, Rachel, Chris Matthews and I will be presenting a two-hour special report on the President's remarks (and answers) to the Republican Retreat (and wow did it live up to that name).

We will be aiming for analysis and perspective for sure, but not to the point of carving this up into little soundbites. We will be running, as they say, "large chunks" and then cutting back to the studio to see which one of our jaws can drop the closest to the floor.

Parenthetically, I always said the actual "Prime Minister's Question Time" on C-SPAN was one of my favorite tv shows but the thought of doing an American version gave me the mental image of all of our politicians running screaming into the streets after the first five minutes of questioning.

Apparently that would all but one of our politicians.

Goon's Anatomy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"if the way these issues are being presented by the republicans--'this is some wild-eyed plot to impose huge government'--in every aspect of our lives, what happens then is you guys don't have a lot of room to negotiate with me. . . . many of you, if you voted with the administration on something, are politically vulnerable in your own base"
trying to imagine bush having said something like that acute the democratic caucus

kamerad, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

um, that acute to the democratic caucus

kamerad, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

no need since the Democrats rolled over like puppies for Dubya on every single fucking thing of import

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

9/11! terror! hard to stand up to that 2001-03, -04, shakey mo

kamerad, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

This is either blithering ignorance of the law or demagoguery of the worst kind.

— Bradley A. Smith is Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Designated Professor of Law at Capital University Law School

TTT

etaeoe, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Tonight the president engaged in demogoguery of the worst kind,

harbl, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I have zero faith in him at this point but I can't front, I still love to see him smack these fuckers down - his first answer in the q & a part is fucking priceless

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

XP watching that at 8!

stop assuming I assumed something LOL (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, that's exactly why I liked the SOTU address, the smackdowns

stop assuming I assumed something LOL (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"i am absolutely committed to working on these issues with you, but it can't just be political assertions that aren't substantiated when it comes to the actual details of policy"

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link

these need to happen on a monthly basis imo.

Heisenberg (rockapads), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

"that's not how democracy works"

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

last twenty minutes is heroic. fuck the haters

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

snap! Youtube age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBuG2TdgMn0&feature=player_embedded

Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Ideology aside, this is a pretty brilliant political moment for Obama. If you check out drudgereport, his response is to bury the story, which is always a good sign.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i found myself wishing the meeting had been longer, with some real number crunching, and more in-depth analysis of the republican bills and simple-speak explanations of why they wouldn't benefit people.

Heisenberg (rockapads), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck jeb hensarling

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"the whole question was structured as a talking point for running a campaign"

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"that's factually just not true, and you know it's not true"

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link

"a republican administration, a republican congress, two tax cuts that weren't paid for, a prescription drug plan passed . . . without being paid for, you had two wars that were done through supplementals"

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link

This is pretty awesome

Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link

ducking meet and greet with paul ryan's kids on the procession out is sweet

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I used to respect you, Don, but I have no idea what you believe in.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link

waiting for dick cheney's rebuttal

kamerad, Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

http://z.about.com/d/atheism/1/0/m/3/3/OK-Not-to-Believe-s.jpg

Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link


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