I HATE APPLE

explain me why I should start using safari

-- kenan, Wednesday, December 5, 2007 4:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

because firefox has begun to blow so hard it's not worth it any more?

-- grimly fiendish, Wednesday, December 5, 2007 4:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

www.caminobrowser.org

youknowsit

What's wrong with Firefox?

There's less vertical resolution, so you're more likely to use that real estate than the full 1400-1900 horizontal pixels?

But it's invisible unless I need it.

I swear I'm not trying to be obstinate here. The "I HATE APPLE" thread is simply not the place for that.

But you'll still potentially have a window open that bleeds down into the space where the dock appears - so every time you move down to that spot on your screen the dock comes up, or it just creates clutter when the dock is there.

I dunno, I didn't think anyone actually set the dock to appear/disappear.

i have it set to disappear. why on earth would you want it there all the time? since i started using quicksilver i barely use it anyway.

I spent a long time with it set to be stuck to the menubar, at teh smallest size, so it was almost impossible to open it. So much better without the damn thing

oh no diffrnt ppl have diffrnt prefs. I spoke out of turn. I'm sure it's fine screen space management is you think it is. My results do vary.

I did something... ugly. I somehow (jeez, don't ask) changed the root user's permissions so that he (it) does NOT have permission to access the hard drive. No boot, no nothing, just a BSOD. Hello, system restore! I think I should go back a couple hours, just to be safe. I'll let you know how how this works.

Not the root user. The sysadmin. The "me." You know what I mean.

Coming along at a good clip. It's restoring about as fast as the OS installed the first time, which isn't nothing, but doesn't necessitate extra cups of coffee or anything.

Just when I think I'm winning
When I've broken every door
The ghosts of Unix
Blow wilder then before

i has a leopard and no problems :D

no OSX problems anyway :(

As an aside, I find the use of the phrase 'real estate' to mean 'screen space' really odd.

Less odd than using "real estate" to mean "let's talk about land and property assets," maybe.

i just got a 22" monitor! it's obscene!

jeez, don't ask

really, i have to ask.

trying way too hard to set up user permissions for remote access.

Oh, I forgot to report on how the system restore works. Fine, just fine. Not a hitch.

Ok, so remotely accessing or even transferring files from a Leopard machine that you are not sitting at is either not possible or not practical, EXCEPT FOR THIS:

http://allforces.com/2007/11/06/back-to-my-mac-through-ichat/

which I'm imagining works a little better than Apple intended it to. After hours of configuring settings and many multiple pages of notes, nothing got me onto another network as well as this, and nothing is anywhere near as fast and easy. Now if I turn my home PC into an FTP server, I'll get around the little file transfer snag, as well.

I forgot what the practical reason for doing this is. I'm sure I'll think of it again.

i don't mind the new dock but how do you get the 2D one? hmm? hmmm?

I posted it just back a few posts, DG! Just open up the terminal and type in what is written in that terminal window!

defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES
[click enter, then]
killall Dock
[then just quit terminal, you will have 2D dock.

Why would you want 2D?

I mean, I hate to keep asking questions after every time someone posts a different take on a Mac feature, but I've been using these computers for twenty years and have never had a problem using some of these things the way they are.

sorry mr clay, missed that

xpost - PP, I agree that it generally Just Works, but the dock creates some real visual strain. The dock should never make it more difficult to tell one app icon from another, or which are open, because that defeats the whole purpose of the thing. (I'm starting to see the side of the argument, though, that says you don't need a frickin' dock in the first place.)

I like the dock better than desktop icons. All my shit is on the desktop and my programs are in the dock. And I certainly don't want to harddrive->applications->firefox everytime I want to look at the internet.

That's where Quicksilver is indispensable.

yeah, is it too late for me to use that in a serious way? Is there enough built into the OS now that it's getting redundant?

Keyboard's always faster than mouse anyway.

Keyboard's always faster than mouse anyway.

-- Autumn Almanac, Thursday, December 6, 2007 5:49 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

rong

Yeah, I'm not sure that's always true. If I'm already doing something with the mouse, it's quicker for me to go to the Dock and launch an app than it is to use Quicksilver, fast as it is.

Quicksilver is slow

no.

I wish there was a way to alt-tab through the dock to get to applications and open them, instead of just alt-tabbing through applications that are already open. The slowest thing I probably do on any computer is probably rolling all the way over to one side of the screen to select an application and open it (hence, all applications stay open almost all the time, so I can just alt-tab - this is a lame fucking workaround for a shitty interface IMO)

Of course if I had to alt-tab through EVERY .app I have that would probably take about three or four minutes

I wish there was a way to alt-tab through the dock to get to applications and open them, instead of just alt-tabbing through applications that are already open. The slowest thing I probably do on any computer is probably rolling all the way over to one side of the screen to select an application and open it (hence, all applications stay open almost all the time, so I can just alt-tab - this is a lame fucking workaround for a shitty interface IMO)

-- El Tomboto, Thursday, December 6, 2007 6:11 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

isn't there a way to do this under Accessibility? I haven't looked

lol I r handicappeded

I got really good at navigating windows 2000 with nothing but the keyboard because we had this old rack console where the touchpad would go out constantly

In the time it takes to get to the mouse, you could have typed 4-5 keystrokes and be looking at your new application.

That is if you are already using the keyboard. If you're a designer or using Pro Tools or something this might not apply.

things i dont like after using for a couple hours:

- using ichat 3 w/ chax i could command-shift-arrow my way through the tabbed chat window. with ichat 4's tabbed chats, this doesn't work.
- i also can't auto-accept incoming IMs, which is sort of a pain
- the new function keys mapped to itunes/dvd controls are great, but i wish they had one that was volume just for itunes so that those of us using airtunes didnt have to get into itunes to change the goddamn volume
- also i miss the expose-mapped function keys; f3 is nice but the expose thing i like is where i can see my desktop

other than that this is great

- using ichat 3 w/ chax i could command-shift-arrow my way through the tabbed chat window. with ichat 4's tabbed chats, this doesn't work.

command-bracket works for this

Has it been covered anywhere that
Dwight Schrute:Jim Halpern::I'm a PC:I'm a Mac

Did this dude hate Apple or Mexicans more?

The new Spotlight is very fast as an application launcher: they've optimised the search to bring them up first, and they launch on Enter, rather than Command-Enter.

Trackpoints are great for mousing without leaving the keyboard, but I don't think many other folk like them much.

so there is no explorer for macs now huh? for some reason i can only remote access my work email through IE >:(

Use Firefox, and maybe drop in the User Agent Switcher plugin:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59

If it's Outlook Web Access (like we have), you probably won't even need the plugin. Firefox is more forgiving.

Actually, that brings up a good question... anyone know how to change proxy settings to allow myself to use webmail through safari? The username/password route doesn't seem to work.

it does not work w/ normally with firefox but i'll try the plugin

kenan, do you mean some sort of Windows domain-authentication webmail setup? if so, it might be wanting "domainname\username" in the username entry.

ah, screw it. It works fine with firefox, and at work I use mac mail. Shrugging it off.

Haven't tried this, and it needs X and an intel Mac, but you can run PC IE on OS X: http://www.kronenberg.org/ies4osx/
Is probably serious overkill unless you really need work email, tho.