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this thread otoh has different rules for what we can/should focus on

if we were all andrew sullivan or keith olbermann laughing at her on a blog or tv show it might be different
j0rdan otm

ugh i just wrote "your right" didn't i

j0hn d. that is otm, i wish a lot of people didn't do it. i still read somerby's daily howler and he is constantly going after certain cable hosts and pundits and newspaper columnists for doing this very thing, calling a lot of the public dumb and then wondering why they prefer to listen to misinformers who don't call them dumb.

i'm dumber than palin

at a certain point she could do something so stupid that it would destroy her career, right?

Dan Quayle suffered immense damage from the potato thing.

What if she thought Ben Franklin was the third president? Or Tony Blair was the King of England?

i think she has already primed the public by acting extra dumb at all times so no, i don't think she can destroy her career by doing something stupid

jd sooo otm, thank you

there's more of a concept of the 'gotcha' now, though, no? stupidity having been such a meme throughout her rise to prominence could immunise her from it being a charge from now on. but yeah maybe so.

xxp

palin is fascinating to me right now because she makes establishment republicans very uncomfortable. it's as if rush or beck decided to run for office. the rnc is happy to gobble up all the collateral benefits of their messaging and spin - and will coordinate these things from time to time - and would be thrilled to have palin as a permanent pundit on fox, as another kind of charismatic gatekeeper to the guns n god mob, but the idea of palin still harboring ambitions to elected office is a no-no for them, i think, which is what explains wallace actually remembering how to conduct a skeptical interview. if he was talking to mccain or, like, lynne cheney he'd resume his usual role of court toady

i think she's done enough of those stupid things that her career has a definite limit. i figure she'll stay as one of the cable news analysts (so long as she gets ratings), raise money for candidates, play spoiler in GOP primaries depending on for whom she raises that money. that's about it. i mean, dick morris has a career telling haters who watch fox opinion shows exactly what they want to hear, as well as sending conservative mass emails and writing columns full of terrible analysis for conservative websites.

Dan Quayle suffered immense damage from the potato thing.

Dan Quayle was approx. 1/4 the politician Palin is, and the GOP machine was in total disrepair at that time. Palin on her best day doesn't dish the timeless zen koans that Quayle was capable of in his sleep. In short he is my guru and I will brook no further comparison of mere mortals to His Excellence J. Danforth, who once said, and I hope we'll all take this to heart:

You take the UNCF model that what a waste it is to lose one's mind, or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

Palin on her best day doesn't dish the timeless zen koans that Quayle was capable of in his sleep.

bullshit--i will put the Thrilla from Wasilla up against Captain Potatoe any day of the week

imagine if they had sex

NO

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/02/obama-invites-gop-to-health-ca.html?hpid=topnews

Good job

President Obama made a dramatic attempt to jump-start the stalled health care debate Sunday, inviting Republicans in Congress to a half-day summit on the subject to be televised live later this month.

I think we did a Quayle vs. Palin back during election year didn't we? I mean look. I don't deny that the Katie Couric interview is a yieded spiritual riches almost beyond compare. And what to speak of the farewell press conference in Alaska? My own daily orisons are based partly on some of the nuggets the flowed forth from Our Lady of Unfathomable Depths that day. But come on.

I have made good judgements in the Past. I have made good judgements in the Future.

She cannot measure up. She can only stand in the blinding light.

We don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to go forward.

Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts.

SADHU, SADHU

okay i bow to him

Palin and Quayle having sex, though, would be better than the Super Bowl

Quaylin' Palin

xxxxxp re: bipartisan healthcare thing

the one thing obama stopped short of at the republican house thing was talking too much about the specific healthcare plan that they'd put forward a few months ago, rated pretty unfavourably by whoever does those things. getting attention on the unfeasibility of their ideas as well as the recalcitrance is probably a good thing

xxxxp

palin is fascinating to me right now because she makes establishment republicans very uncomfortable. it's as if rush or beck decided to run for office. the rnc is happy to gobble up all the collateral benefits of their messaging and spin - and will coordinate these things from time to time - and would be thrilled to have palin as a permanent pundit on fox, as another kind of charismatic gatekeeper to the guns n god mob, but the idea of palin still harboring ambitions to elected office is a no-no for them, i think, which is what explains wallace actually remembering how to conduct a skeptical interview. if he was talking to mccain or, like, lynne cheney he'd resume his usual role of court toady

i don't know; if i were republican big cheese i'd enjoy having my feet up while the tea partiers pedaled for a while. i haven't been following it closely enough to know?, but isn't the tea party just an inevitable response to republicans having a brand sullied by the last presidency? like they can't rep for more of the same so they have to rebrand/support something with similar goals and a few ostensible differences. i know it's wingnutty, but given that any good from the tea party's gonna end up in republican shoes anyhow it doesn't seem all bad for them. happy to be corrected on this.

is there some sort of 'greatest hits of dan quayle' for those of us who were 1-5 years old when he was on top of the world

cmon, it's the super bowl! of course i probably watched 65-70 football games this season

yeah J0rdan there's some priceless shit on Youtube gimme a sec - here's some good 'uns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c00_QkXUd8

the opener is a favorite

xxx-post

http://www.solcomhouse.com/images/potato-recipes.jpg

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2009/05/murphy%20brown.jpg

oh fuck it has the Hawaii one, that there is up on some William Carlos Williams meets Wallace Stevens and drops acid stuff

a personal favorite here:

Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.

Many xxxposts. Daria's OTM - Sullivan is freaking because this is his first big exposure to 'middle America' in all its illiterate glory and I'll add that Britishes don't really like the 'Almighty God' will balance the budget BS and are allergic to evangelicals in politics. Britishes are also liable to OH SHIT, BROWNSHIRTS.

53 per cent of Republicans, when Republicans are 25 per cent of the electorate ATM is still basically only about 15 per cent of the total electorate of 120 million voters. That number of people does not elect a President. Let's just sit back and relax while these geniuses are busy making word salad and not very busy doing basic math. Sarah Palin is very liable to say something even her staunchest fans will not be able to defend, and it will probably be about black or Jewish people. Ooh, can't wait.

Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Sunday, February 7, 2010 5:09 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

hahahahaha

he was just an unstoppable force

that youtube is amazing

thanking u john

the bobby knight one is my favorite, for getting it wrong and then for explaining it wrongly after

well, i figure there are ignorant/illiterate/etc people pretty much everywhere. sullivan seems to think palin's empty populist nonsense is enough to win over a lot of voters & i think most people have better sense than that.

Whatever.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4339260778_bee08d423a_o.jpg

the thing a lot of the Palin Will Come To Rule Us All stuff smells like Oh No, People Like Wrestling y'know

and it's like yeah they do, but guess what, that doesn't mean football better watch its back

President Obama made a dramatic attempt to jump-start the stalled health care debate Sunday, inviting Republicans in Congress to a half-day summit on the subject to be televised live later this month.

― Mr. Que, Sunday, February 7, 2010 10:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

watchin the game or

the thing a lot of the Palin Will Come To Rule Us All stuff smells like Oh No, People Like Wrestling y'know

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Monday, February 8, 2010 12:51 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

she got so super-close to being VP though...

what's the ilxor consensus on 2012? The Mittster?

you know, i did hear somewhere that obama invited a bunch of republicans over to watch the super bowl, for real

2012? pawlenty? or what's his name, paul ryan from wisconsin? whoever it is will lose imho.

i think GOP in 2012 is gonna be like dems in 2004. gonna blow a good shot at toppling incumbent prez by being forced to run a lame ass candidate

See guys the talk here that Sullivan is overstating Palin cause he hasn't visited flyover country doesn't really ring true for me. Every conservative I know, by blood or acquaintance, loves the hell out of her. Most love her for who she claims to be, a couple love her out of a sense of realpolitik, thinking she's great for the Republican Party even if she is leading a populist movement they find unappealing.

I do think Sullivan gets a little shrill klaxony, but I don't think she should be underestimated as a force either.

what's the ilxor consensus on 2012? The Mittster

i'm hoping so (i mean, a Palin nom would be without a doubt the awezomest thing ever, but it ain't going to happen). wathcing the GOP rank & file/ teabag nation hem & haw and basically treat him like an asshole (bcz he's Mormon y'see) and then try to yammer their way around the obvious will be loads of fun.

Every conservative I know, by blood or acquaintance, loves the hell out of her.

Yep, same here. My county in Ohio is generally safely Democrat, but just east of me it's Palin County all the way to the PA border. My mother in law loves her, my boss loves her, my family loves her, a bunch of my old HS friends love her. Anyone who thinks Sullivan is overestimating how much rank-and-file heartland conservatives like this woman is out of touch with reality.

nobody's saying rank-and-file conservatives don't love her. we're saying she's not really a threat. she embarrassed herself terribly throughout the campaign, then she resigned her governorship for no reason. she is unelectable. if they run her, they're conceding to Obama whether they know it or not.

by the way, you guys need to read Rick Perlstein's "cultural" biography of the period between 1960 and 1964, when Barry Goldwater, blinkered and confused, suddenly became the avatar for a large segment of the country -- and was destroyed by LBJ's landslide.

(that the sequel Nixonland chronicled how the liberal hegemony collapsed in subsequent years makes the decade all the more depressing)

j0hn i guess i was more responding to daria

sullivan seems to think palin's empty populist nonsense is enough to win over a lot of voters & i think most people have better sense than that.

― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Sunday, February 7, 2010 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark