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Palin on her best day doesn't dish the timeless zen koans that Quayle was capable of in his sleep.

bullshit--i will put the Thrilla from Wasilla up against Captain Potatoe any day of the week

imagine if they had sex

NO

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/02/obama-invites-gop-to-health-ca.html?hpid=topnews

Good job

President Obama made a dramatic attempt to jump-start the stalled health care debate Sunday, inviting Republicans in Congress to a half-day summit on the subject to be televised live later this month.

I think we did a Quayle vs. Palin back during election year didn't we? I mean look. I don't deny that the Katie Couric interview is a yieded spiritual riches almost beyond compare. And what to speak of the farewell press conference in Alaska? My own daily orisons are based partly on some of the nuggets the flowed forth from Our Lady of Unfathomable Depths that day. But come on.

I have made good judgements in the Past. I have made good judgements in the Future.

She cannot measure up. She can only stand in the blinding light.

We don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to go forward.

Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts.

SADHU, SADHU

okay i bow to him

Palin and Quayle having sex, though, would be better than the Super Bowl

Quaylin' Palin

xxxxxp re: bipartisan healthcare thing

the one thing obama stopped short of at the republican house thing was talking too much about the specific healthcare plan that they'd put forward a few months ago, rated pretty unfavourably by whoever does those things. getting attention on the unfeasibility of their ideas as well as the recalcitrance is probably a good thing

xxxxp

palin is fascinating to me right now because she makes establishment republicans very uncomfortable. it's as if rush or beck decided to run for office. the rnc is happy to gobble up all the collateral benefits of their messaging and spin - and will coordinate these things from time to time - and would be thrilled to have palin as a permanent pundit on fox, as another kind of charismatic gatekeeper to the guns n god mob, but the idea of palin still harboring ambitions to elected office is a no-no for them, i think, which is what explains wallace actually remembering how to conduct a skeptical interview. if he was talking to mccain or, like, lynne cheney he'd resume his usual role of court toady

i don't know; if i were republican big cheese i'd enjoy having my feet up while the tea partiers pedaled for a while. i haven't been following it closely enough to know?, but isn't the tea party just an inevitable response to republicans having a brand sullied by the last presidency? like they can't rep for more of the same so they have to rebrand/support something with similar goals and a few ostensible differences. i know it's wingnutty, but given that any good from the tea party's gonna end up in republican shoes anyhow it doesn't seem all bad for them. happy to be corrected on this.

is there some sort of 'greatest hits of dan quayle' for those of us who were 1-5 years old when he was on top of the world

cmon, it's the super bowl! of course i probably watched 65-70 football games this season

yeah J0rdan there's some priceless shit on Youtube gimme a sec - here's some good 'uns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c00_QkXUd8

the opener is a favorite

xxx-post

http://www.solcomhouse.com/images/potato-recipes.jpg

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2009/05/murphy%20brown.jpg

oh fuck it has the Hawaii one, that there is up on some William Carlos Williams meets Wallace Stevens and drops acid stuff

a personal favorite here:

Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.

Many xxxposts. Daria's OTM - Sullivan is freaking because this is his first big exposure to 'middle America' in all its illiterate glory and I'll add that Britishes don't really like the 'Almighty God' will balance the budget BS and are allergic to evangelicals in politics. Britishes are also liable to OH SHIT, BROWNSHIRTS.

53 per cent of Republicans, when Republicans are 25 per cent of the electorate ATM is still basically only about 15 per cent of the total electorate of 120 million voters. That number of people does not elect a President. Let's just sit back and relax while these geniuses are busy making word salad and not very busy doing basic math. Sarah Palin is very liable to say something even her staunchest fans will not be able to defend, and it will probably be about black or Jewish people. Ooh, can't wait.

Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Sunday, February 7, 2010 5:09 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

hahahahaha

he was just an unstoppable force

that youtube is amazing

thanking u john

the bobby knight one is my favorite, for getting it wrong and then for explaining it wrongly after

well, i figure there are ignorant/illiterate/etc people pretty much everywhere. sullivan seems to think palin's empty populist nonsense is enough to win over a lot of voters & i think most people have better sense than that.

Whatever.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4339260778_bee08d423a_o.jpg

the thing a lot of the Palin Will Come To Rule Us All stuff smells like Oh No, People Like Wrestling y'know

and it's like yeah they do, but guess what, that doesn't mean football better watch its back

President Obama made a dramatic attempt to jump-start the stalled health care debate Sunday, inviting Republicans in Congress to a half-day summit on the subject to be televised live later this month.

― Mr. Que, Sunday, February 7, 2010 10:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

watchin the game or

the thing a lot of the Palin Will Come To Rule Us All stuff smells like Oh No, People Like Wrestling y'know

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Monday, February 8, 2010 12:51 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

she got so super-close to being VP though...

what's the ilxor consensus on 2012? The Mittster?

you know, i did hear somewhere that obama invited a bunch of republicans over to watch the super bowl, for real

2012? pawlenty? or what's his name, paul ryan from wisconsin? whoever it is will lose imho.

i think GOP in 2012 is gonna be like dems in 2004. gonna blow a good shot at toppling incumbent prez by being forced to run a lame ass candidate

See guys the talk here that Sullivan is overstating Palin cause he hasn't visited flyover country doesn't really ring true for me. Every conservative I know, by blood or acquaintance, loves the hell out of her. Most love her for who she claims to be, a couple love her out of a sense of realpolitik, thinking she's great for the Republican Party even if she is leading a populist movement they find unappealing.

I do think Sullivan gets a little shrill klaxony, but I don't think she should be underestimated as a force either.

what's the ilxor consensus on 2012? The Mittster

i'm hoping so (i mean, a Palin nom would be without a doubt the awezomest thing ever, but it ain't going to happen). wathcing the GOP rank & file/ teabag nation hem & haw and basically treat him like an asshole (bcz he's Mormon y'see) and then try to yammer their way around the obvious will be loads of fun.

Every conservative I know, by blood or acquaintance, loves the hell out of her.

Yep, same here. My county in Ohio is generally safely Democrat, but just east of me it's Palin County all the way to the PA border. My mother in law loves her, my boss loves her, my family loves her, a bunch of my old HS friends love her. Anyone who thinks Sullivan is overestimating how much rank-and-file heartland conservatives like this woman is out of touch with reality.

nobody's saying rank-and-file conservatives don't love her. we're saying she's not really a threat. she embarrassed herself terribly throughout the campaign, then she resigned her governorship for no reason. she is unelectable. if they run her, they're conceding to Obama whether they know it or not.

by the way, you guys need to read Rick Perlstein's "cultural" biography of the period between 1960 and 1964, when Barry Goldwater, blinkered and confused, suddenly became the avatar for a large segment of the country -- and was destroyed by LBJ's landslide.

(that the sequel Nixonland chronicled how the liberal hegemony collapsed in subsequent years makes the decade all the more depressing)

j0hn i guess i was more responding to daria

sullivan seems to think palin's empty populist nonsense is enough to win over a lot of voters & i think most people have better sense than that.

― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Sunday, February 7, 2010 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

she is unelectable. if they run her, they're conceding to Obama whether they know it or not.

http://1heckofaguy.com/wp-content/photos/goldwater1964poster.jpg

sullivan seems to think palin's empty populist nonsense is enough to win over a lot of voters & i think most people have better sense than that.

This isn't true at all -- Nixon won two elections, one of which was a landslide. But these revolutions always sputter and end in ignominy; they can't continue.

Pancakes, she probably had all those people the second she made fun of community organizers, because making jokes like that is how stupid/stubborn white people affirm and excuse their own complacency. Venality has its own momentum, and it is this force and not any intellectual push, combined with the self-satisfied god-bothering, that gives us what we have.

If I wanted to be all well-on-the-other-hand about it, FDR suffered the same fate after the court-packing nonsense and his personal crusade to purge Congress of disloyal Dems.

true story, a propos of nothing: i was raised in wrentham, hometown of scott brown. once upon a time, i wanted to be an eagle scout. he sat on a committee that told me that no, my stupid project to build a handicapped ramp at the library did not have enough merit to elevate me to eagle status. being the pissy teenager i was, i argued with him for half an hour , and finally got him to give in. he was unfailingly polite and super friendly afterward, and i think he seemed like a very capable fellow.

So you could have swung the election by publicizing that he hates cripples.

Ned's frisky tonight.

alfred.. hmm.. nixon was before i was born (and i haven't gotten around to reading that copy of nixonland i bought), but wasn't he at least.. somewhat well informed about the issues? i mean, if one isn't already enamored of palin, i don't see how she wins anyone over, she has nothing of substance to say.

Garry Wills on Nixon: "No man ever did more to undermine his own considerable intelligence."

Nixon was a liar. Such congenital, compulsive, shameless liar through his career that it's impossible to understand, even now when we understand him better, what he tried to say.

Nixon was an almost pathological liar and a bad fucking dude, but he was also a really smart guy. Could speak extemporaneously on a large variety of topics capably, hold his own in conversation. In private conversation, he was a paranoid racist consumed by a thirst for power. But he was bright as fuck, for sure.

Sarah Palin speaks well but is insane and cynical. It's depressing how many people like her, but if she actually poses any threat at all, then guess what, the bigger loss is already behind us & there's hardly any point worrying about it. I do not believe that she does, but I may be an optimist.

Those two books that acolyte Monica Crowley published after the Great Man's death show him struggling with Hegel and Schiller into his eighties ("Those Germans were so complicated!")

she probably had all those people the second she made fun of community organizers, because making jokes like that is how stupid/stubborn white people affirm and excuse their own complacency.

This seems a remarkably offensive thing to say, and it certainly doesn't jibe with the Palin fans I know that are not white, stupid, or complacent.

Am I just a weird kinda dude for wanting to figure out why someone like Palin appeals to such a broad swath of people (nb that most of the Palin fans I know are nonwhite with college degrees) instead of being content to dismiss her adulators as stupid & not worth a moment's serious consideration? People who swear by Beck & Palin aren't a construction of bloggers to me. They're my family and my friends and my roommate and more. I want to find out what it is in them that Palin manages to tap into, and I don't think the answer is something as stupidly self-congratulatory as xenophobia or racism or personal laziness.