xavier: renegade angel

Abbott OTM. The DVD features suspiciously dead-on fanmentary for those who don't get it.

just started watching this, it doesn't really go off the deep end until the baby-eating episode, which...holy crap.

i loved wonder shozen, but do not like this

I think maybe you need to watch it more before you cast judgment. A lot of times, I've found I don't like something at first, and then I give it a little time and eventually I warm up to it. Don't write it off yet, give it some time and see what happens. After all, life's too short to be a critic right? :)

I loved this show straight up - saw the baby-eating episode while hanging out in a bar and thought, "this is amazing". Can't wait to see what these guys come up with next.

ohhhh i hate this show

I would hate this show as well, but I theoretically like it in a world where I'm more familiar with the new age nonsense it's making fun of. I heard that the animators who work on it hate it, though.

i like this show lots and lots, but it does threaten to disappear up its ass in that it's all about wordplay (a wonder showzen carryover) first and foremost and zinging new age/religious horseshit is secondary. both of which makes xavier more limited in its appeal than wonder showzen was. so folks who aren't into wordplay or mocking new age/religious cliches are gonna be predisposed to not like it at all. that's what i think, anyway.

show is funny but also creeps the hell out of me, esp since I only seem to catch it at 3 am

also, i think that this wonder showzen clip was a dry-run for xavier in so many ways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1AHDNTXYSA

Have you guys seen Final Flesh yet?

this show fucking kills it

Have you guys seen Final Flesh yet?

Oh man... Final Flesh...

Final Flesh (From The Creators Of Wonder Showzen)

damnesia you is fukkin bonkers

also it helps 2 have subtitles turnt on 4 these epis so u dont miss joeks fyi

Yes! They're so densely packed (visually, aurally, mentally, etc.) that the closed captioning helps. And, in a way, I'm glad the episodes aren't half an hour each. At half that length, they're absolutely exhausting/exhilarating.

Just saw this for the first time. Wow, really amazing.

My iPod is named "Dark Notion" thx to this show – that episode cracked me up so hard (w/the ridic goth boy called himself Society and Dark Notion...I need to get this shit on DVD).

"Clutch the dark purple hairs of the galloping orangutan of normalicy and ride nigga ride!"

"One time I created something called....a thurrito! It's a burrito, within a burrito, within the heart of that same burrito. Its a total mind-blinder, but you don't hear me bragging about it all over your face."

man i want to watch this right now

We call them truth humps. We tend to judge each show by how many TH's we have per episode. Our minimum is 10, our maximum is 40. What's the THPM, like how many truth humps per minute. We also do the LLPM, how many lady-lumps per minute.

AVC: Is Highway To Heaven the inspiration for Xavier?

JL: We based it on Michael Landon’s life. If you really understood it, why would you ask that question?

VC: If you took Michael Landon to his logical conclusion, that’s Xavier. But we always have taken a format and then tried to not make it parody or not just rely on the format as a mold for our nightmares.

JL: I’d like to say we honor the format.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/vernon-chatman-and-john-lee-of-the-heart-she-holle,64560/2/

p excited 4 the heart, she holler tbh

ahahaha oh this

show is pure noize

yh it rly is rly it rly rly is

If is an amazing show

Iiiit

<3

heart she holler was unwatchable doe

yep

this is like uh they finally made a show for ppl whose smartness and silliness are in eternal conflict for zenithal occupation of their brainspace

i miss this show

fairly certain this is the greatest tv show ever made

The Squatopia episode probably my favorite. I just rewatched it last night for like the 10th time and discovered something new: the juggler guy in the very beginning throws three fireballs into the air, yet only catches one in his hat. The other two fall out of the sky at different parts in the rest of the show. One sets the fascist on fire and the other kills the punk rocker who is trying to kick out the slave.

"Dreams, they are the hurricanes that wash the soul-filth from the super-dome of our night-mind."

This is probably the most subversive TV show ever aired.

It's epically anti-authoritarian.

Like, it blows past any political/social/spiritual concepts of authority and finds Reason at the heart of it all and just eviscerates it.

I dunno; I think its deliberate obtuse random weirdness, great tho that is, can undercut any subversion. The show is so acutely bent that none of it could justify that "sub-" prefix; it's not slipping under anybody's radar anytime room.

The show's aesthetic is a great pairing with Tim & Eric's, tho; grotesquery and absurdity thru early 90s VHS tech vs late 90s 1st-gen home PC 3D software.

so this (co-written by vernon chatman but the brainchild of another pomo animation genius called david oreilly) is fucking incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPyN6IK1tM

httpsssss httpsssssssssssss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPyN6IK1tM

Interesting! I really like the style. Looks sort of airbrushed.

Has its own thread now.

Ask it here, I guess: why would ILX rather discuss Tim and Eric than PFFR?

Tim and Eric are currently releasing content and PFFR aren't.

Also, the last thing PFFR made -- The Heart, She Holler, in 2011 -- was really bad imo.

Xavier, Wonder Showzen, and Delocated are all aces though.

The Heart She Holler also existed in 2013 and is coming back in a few weeks for a third season. It definitely is their hardest project to enjoy, I think, but they're still active. I was thinking of them when "Too Many Cooks" was getting so much attention just recently... seems like a PFFR-influenced kind of thing (maybe not directly, but the sensibility is sort of similar).

imo THSH is amazing

and yeah, cibdidersarion of their place in the cultural cabin inspired by talk of tooo many books

pffr should go on chapo

This was all new to me, cause I'm slow. I'm amazed by how poor the first three episodes are, but then with the baby eating one it just gets into gear and becomes really, really awesome.

shivering truth s2 is really great, a big improvement over s1 (whose better episodes were in the second half as well - all very much like xavier)

......how did I not know this exists

i just binged the whole thing (both seasons) in one go lol. probably v bad for me

my picks are probably e4 and e5 of S1 and e3 and e4 of S2 but as i say the whole second season is great

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surprised to hear trey parker!

vernon chatman has been a writer on South Park for years - he voices Towelie

no I knew that I just don't think I've heard his voice in a non SP thing for a long time

the full list of guest stars is great. s2 closer for example has julia davis and miranda july

the PFFR rolodex is wild

this show is basically "what if black mirror was good" + a ton of body horror and jokes

i would say more (chris morris') jam than black mirror, but with a seriously unhealthy helping of malignantly reified abstract existential tropes

well, I just found out about this show

it's just your meat

oh this is ILE, oops. watch XRE folks & tata

I've never seen the whole thing, just clips, but the phrase "what doth life?" enters my brain regularly

my god there are an insane amount of jokes in this show

oh my god the baby eating episode is one of the most deranged things I have ever seen

if you mess with thee, she will punish thine

okay I've been seeing a lot of Xavier references/clips online lately which is odd because I genuinely don't think I'd ever heard of it before and I'm pretty sure I was watching Adult Swim during the time it was on. maybe it really was way ahead of its time.

amusingly one common experience seems to be people who fell asleep with the TV on, woke up at 3 AM and saw a bit of it then fell back asleep, only to discover much later it actually wasn't part of some weird dream

the burning person episode i'm guessing? lotta significant crystals being lost atm

Maybe having a resurgence because you can watch it on Max now?

I tried showing some to my wife and her opinion was that it's very much of its time, lol.

could be, also seems several people have uploaded it all to YouTube which I'm sure has helped a lot. previously you could only find clips and compilations.

I agree the show fits into the Tim & Eric/YTP stuff that was popular in the mid-00s but it also sometimes reminds me of those Vine/TikTok compilations where it's just a bunch of really strange/unpredictable humor coming at you really quickly and there's no way to really describe what's going on or why it's funny

xra's energy is still to be found in the work of, say, podel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_n8toR4Bxo

hell yes, more of this stuff please

pilotredsun maybe fits too though his stuff is less funny and more downright unsettling

another podel while i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLJiIZt0FEY

the key isn't just weird shitposting, it's weird shitposting that's had loads of effort and paralogical thought put into it

maybe conner o'malley speedrunning southland tales in 10 minutes counts too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm6VOgmv9-c

yeah a lot of my favorite things are ideas that are incredibly stupid or insane that regardless have crazy amounts of effort put into them, it's why I love On Cinema and Lasagna Cat and even Neil Breen films. XRA just makes you feel like a pure observer, there's some internal logic to how it works but nothing you can figure out or predict, you can't discern a thing about the writers' views, and you can't identify with a single character outside of maybe Popo the Gorilla

hah yes "Rebranded Mickey Mouse" definitely fits especially the second half which in pacing and plot basically IS an episode of XRA

all happening so quickly, and so inaccurately

great show

i have bad news and a snack for you

Computer, explain!

"Xavier, according to my research, something very weird has happened here"