US POLITICS: AMERICANS, PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW PRESIDENT... SCOTT BROWN!

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south beach is.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i would've voted for mississippi even tho i've never been there

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

lots of states have beaches

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

coral gables, too btw.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

south florida is really the only redeemable part of the state tho -- everything else really is a shit hole -- orlando is depressing as fuck

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

arizona has the grand canyon, cannot be the worst.

can't think of anything redeeming about nebraska

akm, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

'bama, Mississippi, and Jawjuh.

don't forget Kane-tuck and Arkansaw

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i've never been to south florida--i bet it's okay, at least better than the fucking rest of that hellhole

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

arizona has the grand canyon, cannot be the worst.

yeah that's true... but the rest of the state ugh.

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Disney World is not exactly something to brag about

If you've never been drunk on a monorail going around the Seven Seas Lagoon, I feel sorry for your life.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

south florida is really the only redeemable part of the state tho -- everything else really is a shit hole -- orlando is depressing as fuck

no love for Yeehaw Junction, i see.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

florida got sympathy hate because of bush v. gore, I've been to every state except hawaii & maine and florida had no biz winning that poll imo

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess you should feel sorry for me, because that sounds awful

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i've never been to south florida--i bet it's okay, at least better than the fucking rest of that hellhole

oh, this is right.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Maine is really fucking awesome

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Maine is really fucking awesome

savin' it for last

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i've only been to like 34 states

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

what would win best state? colorado or vermont or something right?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Cuba.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd be a petty regionalist and vote for California, regardless of our disastrous state govt

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Colorado is pretty great, so is California, it's close between Maine and California for me

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

best state = MN or ME

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

New York would probably win, NYC + a lotta cool stuff upstate

if Colorado won, that would be v. v. funny

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

(CA ranks pretty high up there for me as well)

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

also Brooklyn transplants would register 100+ socks to represent for Wmsbrg

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

how much of South Beach did you see that weekend we hung out, J0hn?

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Hard to say if this discussion improves the readability of the US politics thread over the status quo ante.

Aimless, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

how much of South Beach did you see that weekend we hung out, J0hn?

just the lobby, you'll remember it was the coldest weekend in south Florida in like a century - IIRC we took a nice walk to a restaurant the next evening but we didn't get to really see anything.

I have a lot of love for Florida, there's so much of it & lots of it is really weird & the keys are cool & have a strong literary history & plus John Berryman was a kid in Tampa & Donald Justice is from there, too. down w/Florida hate imo, you can focus on the crazy righties but there's a lot more to it than that

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

colorado would be fine if it weren't for the republicans and christian coalition and military guys and general assholes.

akm, Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

you just learn to live with the righties. they're okay; just don't talk politics/religion (or cuba).

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah purple states are always frustrating

xp don't give a rat's about CO tbh. the "good" parts are too indigo girls/north face apparel for me i guess

greg dulli appointed feduhral mahshulls (goole), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Of all the states I've visited/lived in the one I'm in no hurry to get back to is Michigan.

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

;_;

Let's see how tough Aquaman is once we get him in the water. (Laurel), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Keeping in mind my travels there have been limited to Detroit and Ann Arbor.

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

People always go out their way to neg Michigan, Mystery would be proud.

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

xp A2 doesn't totally suck but basically that's like going to one suburb of Long Island and deciding to atomize all of New York State.

Let's see how tough Aquaman is once we get him in the water. (Laurel), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Florida – "the state with the prettiest name."

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

His name makes me think of menstrual cycles and not the state, though.

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Flo-Rida - "the emcee with the grossest name"

slapped by a bear (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that man computer-generated?

Let's see how tough Aquaman is once we get him in the water. (Laurel), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

just the lobby, you'll remember it was the coldest weekend in south Florida in like a century - IIRC we took a nice walk to a restaurant the next evening but we didn't get to really see anything.

ha was this this past jan?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

max, was just coming to post this about that. Notice dude's blog post has not been updated.

In this era of blog wildfires, one fast-moving flame can be quenched before it scorches the facts: First Lady Michelle Obama did not stock the White House library with socialist books.

The controversy erupted after a conservative radio host and blogger from North Dakota took the White House tour on Wednesday and spotted two suspicious volumes on the shelves.

Rob Port, 29, who hosts a political call-in show in his home state, was surprised to come across "The American Socialist Movement, 1897-1912" and "The Socialist Party of America."

He snapped a photo and posted it on sayanythingblog.com.

Under the headline: "Photo Evidence: Michelle Obama Keeps Socialist Books in the White House Library," Port wrote that the White House tour guide said the library was stocked with books picked out by Michelle Obama. "Being a bit of a bibliophile," he wrote on the blog, "I started to peruse some of the books on the shelves...and lookie, lookie what I found."

Thus flame was ignited. The blog post quickly attracted over a hundred comments and was linked on many other sites.

"Surely this means that every time President Obama is in the midst of important policy deliberations, he goes into the library, dusts off The American Socialist Movement, 1897-1912, and uses it to help him figure out what the most socialist policy would be," mocked New York's Daily Intel blog.

Port, who was in Washington to cover the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), said in an interview it is "never fair to judge a book by its cover" and that you can't conclude Obama is a socialist just by the books in his library. "But obviously there have been question about the Obama administration's politics. You see a few socialist books sitting in the library and, well, that fits in the narrative."

The only problem is the books Port photographed have been sitting in the library since 1963.

The library came into being during the presidency of Franklin Roosevelt. In 1961, First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy asked Yale University librarian James T. Babb to oversee a committee that would select books for the library. In 1963, 1,780 were placed on the shelves.

"The White House library is a reference and recreational library for the use of the President, his family, and official staff," wrote Babb in the forward to "The White House Library: A Short Title List," a document from the White House Historical Association.

"It is intended to contain books which best represent the history and culture of the United States, works most essential for an understanding of our national experience. The collection has to be strictly limited because the attractive library on the ground floor of the White House has shelf space for only twenty-five hundred volumes. Authors, with few exceptions, are citizens of the United States; fiction and poetry by deceased writers only have been included."

"The American Socialist Movement, 1897-1912" by Ira Kinnis and "The Socialist Party of America" by David Shannon are included on that original list of books, along with books about the two national parties, communism and still others about socialism.

Babb told The New York Times in 1963 that there was "bound to be criticism" of the choices. "There will still be people telling us what should be in this library, but we'll just have to be adamant," he said.

It is impossible to know if the White House guide misspoke, or Port misheard.

"I guess if they have been in there since the 1960s then they have been there through several presidents," Port said when asked about the discovery. "All I said was that our tour guide told us they were chosen by the First Lady. I thought the books were interesting in the larger context, but now I guess it is what it is."

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

clown gets clowned, film at 11

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

ha was this this past jan?

January '09 IIRC

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Stories like this make me feel like Obama leaks dumbass information just to fuck with the wingnuts and show them up at a later date.

Mordy, Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link


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