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Has it been covered anywhere that
Dwight Schrute:Jim Halpern::I'm a PC:I'm a Mac

otrbjk93y, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Did this dude hate Apple or Mexicans more?

Dom Passantino, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

The new Spotlight is very fast as an application launcher: they've optimised the search to bring them up first, and they launch on Enter, rather than Command-Enter.

Trackpoints are great for mousing without leaving the keyboard, but I don't think many other folk like them much.

stet, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

so there is no explorer for macs now huh? for some reason i can only remote access my work email through IE >:(

bell_labs, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Use Firefox, and maybe drop in the User Agent Switcher plugin:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59

kenan, Monday, 10 December 2007 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

If it's Outlook Web Access (like we have), you probably won't even need the plugin. Firefox is more forgiving.

kenan, Monday, 10 December 2007 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, that brings up a good question... anyone know how to change proxy settings to allow myself to use webmail through safari? The username/password route doesn't seem to work.

kenan, Monday, 10 December 2007 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

it does not work w/ normally with firefox but i'll try the plugin

bell_labs, Monday, 10 December 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

kenan, do you mean some sort of Windows domain-authentication webmail setup? if so, it might be wanting "domainname\username" in the username entry.

mh, Monday, 10 December 2007 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

ah, screw it. It works fine with firefox, and at work I use mac mail. Shrugging it off.

kenan, Monday, 10 December 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Haven't tried this, and it needs X and an intel Mac, but you can run PC IE on OS X: http://www.kronenberg.org/ies4osx/
Is probably serious overkill unless you really need work email, tho.

stet, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh. Wine.

kenan, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

bump

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 January 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

"...aaaand mexicans"

omar little, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm on robot #2 and about to talk to human being #2 to explain that the optical drive on an iMac no longer ejects
the fuck I bothered to use the phone with this shit

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

oh good country music

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

how come nobody ever plays The Minutemen for hold music

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link

oh hey, i may as well ask before i do something unnecessary... wht the fuck is up with my install of apache on leopard? I have the exact problem outlined here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5917206 and also like on that thread, no one knows what's wrong. It seems to be installed properly, it's certainly enabled, but there's no localhost, no 127.0.0.1, no fucking server. I've moved around .conf files like people recommended, because some people seem to have had a problem when leopard upgraded to apache2 from 1.3, but nothing. It's not any kind of typo, nothing like that... syntax OK. I don't really know enough about what netstat tells me to glean anything from it, except that it does seem to acknowledge the existence of a localhost. I also installed leopard on my work machine, didn't move or change anything, and apache is running like a champ. It's just on my iMac it's unusable. WTF. I'm considering installing xampp or some such, at least until apple fixes this (I presume known) issue.

kenan, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

kenan i don't really know but maybe you can set that in httpd.conf

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

sudo ipfw list

El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

also... stopping and/or starting apachectl seems to work ok. It doesn't tell me anything, but it wouldn't anyway. However, REstarting apachectl gives me a failure message. Does that mean it was never running to begin with?

xpost Hm. Maybe I should compare and contrast such things between my working copy on my work machine and my stupid rinky-dink iMac, which I am about ready to begin kicking.

kenan, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

tom -- i'll try that when i get home. That is interesting. At home, I have the firewall set to "allow all connections," but here (where it works), it's set to "allow only specific," and of course web server is on that list.

kenan, Thursday, 3 January 2008 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

hm. well, that was no go. the ipfw says it allows any to any, just like on my work machine. I reset the firewall to allow only certain programs, made sure web server was on that list, and nothing. No localhost, no damn apache.

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

What does it say in error_log? Apache's usually pretty good about complaining in there.

stet, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link

hm, where is that? There doesn't seem to be any /var/log/httpd or /var/log/apache2

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

ah ha... because it's not there.

my system log, however, is filled with primarily this message:

Jan  4 20:48:01 Hatter org.apache.httpd[1087]: Unable to open logs

Jan 4 20:48:01 Hatter com.apple.launchd[1] (org.apache.httpd[1087]): Exited with exit code: 1
Jan 4 20:48:01 Hatter com.apple.launchd[1] (org.apache.httpd): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
Jan 4 20:48:11 Hatter org.apache.httpd[1096]: (2)No such file or directory: httpd: could not open error log file /private/var/log/apache2/error_log.
Jan 4 20:48:11 Hatter org.apache.httpd[1096]: Unable to open logs
Jan 4 20:48:11 Hatter com.apple.launchd[1] (org.apache.httpd[1096]): Exited with exit code: 1
Jan 4 20:48:11 Hatter com.apple.launchd[1] (org.apache.httpd): Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds

over and over again, every ten seconds, forever and ever ago.

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:50 (sixteen years ago) link

rebuild permissions

El Tomboto, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

er, "repair" permissions

El Tomboto, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I told kenan to nose around in console.app DAYS ago

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 5 January 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

ok... not a whole lot of output from that (I repair permissions pretty regularly), but almost all of it was "has been modified and was not repaired," mostly is the system library, with one "ACL found but not expected" in applications. I normally wouldn't think that was cause for alarm. Anyway, after that was done I started apachectl and went back to the system log... same shit.

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link

mostly IN the system library

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, so I nosed around the logs finally, but why do I not even HAVE an apache2 directory in the log directory? It's certainly looking for it.

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link

mkdirhier /private/var/log/apache2/

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I was wondering that, if I could just make the directory. I'll give it a shot.

But meanwhile, fuck it. It's nice to have two computers. I installed lampp on my linux machine in five minutes, and it's up and working and positively spry. I'm not going to get any more jangled than I am over the mac thing. Besides, ubuntu has been nothing but good to me for a couple months, the backup program I run seems to work great, and I have mad space on this machine. May as well go ahead and use it as more than just a torrent station.

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link


% cat `which mkdirhier`
#!/bin/sh
mkdir -p "$@"

libcrypt, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:54 (sixteen years ago) link

or that

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:55 (sixteen years ago) link

$ cat `which mkdirhier`
#!/bin/sh
# $Xorg: mkdirhier.sh,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:41:53 cpqbld Exp $
# Courtesy of Paul Eggert

newline='
'
IFS=$newline

case ${1--} in
-*) echo >&2 "mkdirhier: usage: mkdirhier directory ..."; exit 1
esac

status=

for directory
do
case $directory in
'')
echo >&2 "mkdirhier: empty directory name"
status=1
continue;;
*"$newline"*)
echo >&2 "mkdirhier: directory name contains a newline: \`\`$directory''"
status=1
continue;;
///*) prefix=/;; # See Posix 2.3 "path".
//*) prefix=//;;
/*) prefix=/;;
-*) prefix=./;;
*) prefix=
esac

IFS=/
set x $directory
case $2 in
*/*) # IFS parsing is broken
IFS=' '
set x `echo $directory | tr / ' '`
;;
esac
IFS=$newline
shift

for filename
do
path=$prefix$filename
prefix=$path/
shift

test -d "$path" || {
paths=$path
for filename
do
if [ -n "$filename" -a "$filename" != "." ]; then
path=$path/$filename
paths=$paths$newline$path
fi
done

mkdir $paths || status=$?

break
}
done
done

exit $status

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link

then again, what are you doing using csh

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 5 January 2008 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link

then again, what are you doing using csh

Making very bad jokes.

libcrypt, Saturday, 5 January 2008 04:00 (sixteen years ago) link

HEY! Creating that directory worked. Will you look at that shit. Thanks all of you for your help.

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I believe I shall have to explain what I did to those OS X forum threads that remain clueless.

kenan, Saturday, 5 January 2008 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, so apache user doesn't have the right permissions to mkdir in var

that's pretty locked down I guess

El Tomboto, Saturday, 5 January 2008 04:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Attention time machine fans!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizardishungry/2181145041/

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 10 January 2008 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link

safari set a new record for memory hogging last night. 800MB of RAM? WTF?

DG, Monday, 14 January 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

HINT: "Virtual Memory" also includes disk cache, shared libraries and open files. RSIZE is what matters.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 14 January 2008 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

that was the RSIZE

DG, Monday, 14 January 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

itunes also gets up to like 450MB just playing tracks

DG, Monday, 14 January 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

unbelievable

DG, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link

All right, I'm starting to get sick of a little something here -- am ripping some discs and about every sixth disc or so, iTunes will contact the CDDB as per usual and then refuse to display the disc anywhere, and neither will the desktop or Finder window. I end up having to fully restart the computer, at which time the disc will appear on the desktop with the appropriate CDDB info. Any way I can get the disc to appear on the desktop/in iTunes properly without having to go through a full restart?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 05:13 (sixteen years ago) link

lol let me know when that drive starts making buzzing sounds on spinup
depending on your avg weekly rip volume it sounds like you could be 6 mos out from a replacement part

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 05:16 (sixteen years ago) link


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