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Gee Andy! If I was your girlfriend then I could have some of your pub and darts-tastic lifestyle.

Seriously though - given our utter and abject failure to get a trip sorted, we must do this. We could stop off at the Angerstein Arms (near Westcombe Park station) first, to see where it all began, then back onto the train to Woolwich. I am also pleased to support this FAP as it is 10 minutes from my house. Rar!

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

who me? possibly, that should be on the "thing" thread though shouldn't it ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think that's his girlfriend, she is just a Andy Fordham fan. With a T-Shirt.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

ha ! "the thing" indeed - with a bullseye checkout! for my detection work

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

we'd have to tell meg's mate who is currently living in guildford if we do go to vikingpub, as she'd never forgive us if we went without her ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

I know - it was a piss poor attempt at interthreaduality. Apologies to the world for this attempt. I shan't ever try again.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

those darters w. guns pics are terrifying and hilarious.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 January 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

34.61!

(William, give us another run-down of the events of yesterday evening if you like, I've really enjoyed them so far!)

willem (willem), Friday, 9 January 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

Barney 5-1 Walton
Fordham 5-4 Fitton

My. GOD. Barneveld was, in a word, unbelievable. He was knocking in 180's like there was no tomorrow, almost every dart seemed to be hitting the treble twenty, he was regularly getting checkouts in triple figures and just as you thought he wouldn't get them, he did. He was throwing scoring darts almost perfectly, and hardly ever missed doubles - but the really amazing thing was that Walton was having his best game of the tournament as well. His finishing troubles from the Wagner match looked dead and buried, and he was getting the treble twenties fairly regularly - in other words, he was playing just like when he won the title in 2001. Only problem - Barney didn't let him get a dart in edgeways. His mistakes were small, but crucial - he only seemed to be able to get legs and sets when Barney gave him the opportunity, and if he missed his chance, he never got a second one. Incredible.

The prospects aren't that great for The Viking in the semi-final then - Walton's 3-dart average was better than both his and Fitton's. Then again, they went the full slog, and it was just as good as anticipated - two players near or at the top of their respective games trading back and forth, back and forth. Fordham looked sweaty, probably because he is, but he was holding his nerve. So was Fitton. The end of set eight was nailbiting. Fordham had bull for the match - threw, the tip hit the wire and glanced into outer bull. Fitton nailed double top first time out, 4-4 - had Andy blown it? no. Came back strong, and won the match with - bullseye.The amazing thing was how relaxed they both were, laughing and joking with each other between legs - like Bobby George said, "Proper darts".

If he wasn't before, Barney has to be the red-hot favourite now. You can't see Fordham stopping him, unless he's really right on top of his game, and to do that you have to finish with no margin for error. Fordham's finishing wasn't bad last night, but whether it'll be good enough to beat Barney... doubt it. Oddly enough, the one player who's been finishing that well that it might trouble Barney is the feller he beat last year, Richie Davies. Still, he has to get through tonight's "Welcome To Hell" encounter first...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

They also had a women's semi-final last night, Trina Gulliver beating Karin Krappen 2-0. It's weird, the women shouldn't be any worse than the men, yet somehow they are - Gulliver seems a fair cut above the others, and she'd probably only make the second round of the men's competition at best.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 12:26 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks. :-)

referring to the eerie pictures upthread, here's two lines from OutKast's "Happy Valentine's Day" (just happened to be listening to it)

Now when arrows don't penetrate, see
Cupid grabs the pistol

willem (willem), Friday, 9 January 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago) link

the women shouldn't be any worse than the men, yet somehow they are

maybe there aren't as many women players around, not the ones who really want to take up darts professionally (less viewers, smaller price money i'd imagine). and less players = less chance of there being someone sad enough to practice darts day in day out, which you'd have to to be any good.

I am only speculating though.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:00 (twenty years ago) link

That is a factor, I guess - there are only 8 people in the women's tournament, and it's only been on telly properly in the past couple of years. It's a peculiar state of affairs.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

i really can't see anyone beating barney now (unless andy fordham sits on him), he's on fire...

we want barney vs the power!!!

wasn't trina in the main competition a few years back? i'm sure there was a woman in the first round once...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

That was PDC - Gayl King, of Canada. Lost 3-1, I think.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago) link

i think the BDO did as well, might be (at least) 10 years ago the more i think about it...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago) link

There's been a Barney - Taylor match a few years back. I believe the Power won it 6-1 (not entirely sure, but the gap was major). Would be nice to organise another match, considering the form Barney's in the last year(s). And his more solid state of mind during matches.

willem (willem), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, it was on ITV, and Taylor won it easy. But Barney is a different player these days. On the form he was on last night, you wouldn't have bet on anyone beating him.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

oh, i thought barney would have been ex-communicated for consorting with the infidel...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

or for losing to him

chris (chris), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

Was it a match though? I thought it was an hour's worth of darts, with the winner the one with the most legs - a bit like matchplay and strokeplay in golf, in that it's a fundamentally different scoring system, which can produce different results. I don't hold by it.

Worried that barney might have peaked too soon...

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

yeah it was just as many legs as we can get in an hour. it wasn't a proper match. now a world final (and all the pressures the situation carry with it) and those two involved would be something to see.

barneveld was awesome yesterday but can he produce that kind of form for another two rounds?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

Last night:

Tony O'Shea 5-1 Ted Hankey
Mervyn King 5-4 Richie Davies

And in the women's competition

Francis Hoenselaar 2-1 Clare Bywaters

I missed the main highlights programme, tuning in just in time to catch the last couple of legs of Davies-King - looks like I missed an utter classic, seeing as how my heart was in my mouth for the duration of the five or six minutes I saw... really felt for the wee ginger feller, he just could not finish it off, and as such Gitto capitalised and got through. The crowd were all applauding him too, so it looks like the controversy has blown over thanks to MAGIC DARTS, or something.

The only match I saw all the way through was the women's one, which was really good - Hoenselaar seemed a bit shaky on scoring but lethal on doubles, with Bywaters the exact opposite. Very good match but the crowd wasn't into it, and the fact it was only three sets long meant it couldn't build up any momentum - a longer contest between the two could've been fantastic.

Then there was Hankey-O'Shea, which had the misfortune to start rather poorly and coincide with South Park, so I watched that instead. It was great. Turned back after the end, and I'd sort of lost interest. O'Shea-King is hard to pick therefore. Go for O'Shea, he has a better nickname (i.e. one that isn't his surname).

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 10 January 2004 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

Only saw it from 4-2 onward, but the Davies - King match was indeed a killer. Both players psychin' themselves up, boostered by the reactions from the crowd. It was so fucking great. Davies coming back from 4-2 down to grind to a halt when he was just one double away from going through to the semi-final...

If O'Shea keeps hitting the doubles like he did in the last two matches then he has a good chance against King.

willem (willem), Saturday, 10 January 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link

Andrew "The Viking Mullet" Fordham through to the final.
What a match. Everyone who saw this must have been as sweaty as i was.

pete s, Saturday, 10 January 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

Btw, when was Ray Stubbs 'bang out of order'?
(He's been cruising for a bruising for some time)

pete s, Saturday, 10 January 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago) link

John Part is a good commentator: at 4-2 he was saying that andy could come back bcz raymond somehow lost concentration just before the break, and that carried on after the break.

hope andy wins.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 10 January 2004 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

Oh... man... that... was...

I didn't even see most of it due to bastard brothers, bastard washing up, bastard picking up of bastard brothers from down the bastard hill... just the last few darts. When I left it Andy was 4-2 down. I saw he was throwing for the match and leapt in the air, screamed. Brother says "uhhh" and turns over to Channel 5 for Jamie Theakston Narrates Stunt Horses or something. Not now he fucking doesn't. Turn over in time to see Barney fuck his double up, and The Viking NAIL the double 2. And I just stood there shivering while turns back to people in flames suits in Spawn or something. I'm still all a-quiver now too... have to watch it tonight, no bloody question.

Also - It was Mervyn King was "bang out of order." I like Stubbsy.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

Am now trying to work out if Andy can win tomorrow. Am doing this by calculating how many other things could combine to go to shit which would be compounded by Mervyn effing King winning. it does not look good.

Also - who was it won Walk Of The Week? It had to be The Duke, surely...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:51 (twenty years ago) link

Another wonderful thing about the women's match was a fair few shots of Mieke de Boer in the crowd looking deeply naffed off (she lost 2-0 to Hoenselaar in the first round). Without gun.

On the subject of commentary - it's difficult to think of many analysts on British terrestrial that are as good as Part. Today, though, Tony Green came into his own during the O'Shea-King match. He was really, really feeling for O'Shea, as was everyone in the room. "Come on Tony. Don't give it away." Looking back on it, it's perfect. O'Shea's game was just falling apart in front of everyone, the form he had earlier in the week all gone. There was hardly any atmosphere in the match, it seemed that easy for King. and in that one line, Tony Green just got it absolutely spot on.

And that's why darts is different to the other sports. They do all know each other. It's not snooker, because the darts players come off as people, as opposed to Mark Williams. It also doesn't feature half-hour long sessions of nestle-the-ball-behind-the-brown. It certainly isn't bowls, with all it's "We're modern now, the players wear teal and turquoise." Plus which most of the bowls players seem to be boring sods. In no other sport do you see Ray Stubbs being really enthusiastic about Tom Jones, or being mobbed by Andy Fordham fans. In no other sport would they dare conduct analysis from the lounge bar of the venue. In no other sport would you get Steve Duke, this man who emigrated from Manchester to Australia in 1969 and still hasn't lost the accent, dancing to "I Can't Get No Satisfaction". In no other sport could you get Andy Fordham, though admittedly he does bear something of a resemblance to a fatter, hairier Mick Foley (Mankind-era). In no other sport is there such obvious camaraderie and respect between all the players. It's... darts, magic, magic darts. And one week just ain't enough.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 10 January 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

'the duke' had the worst walk. give it to 'the dazzler'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 11 January 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

Best cutaway shot:
Andy Fordham's fitness trainer

(yeah i know extreme pain in the arms blah blah)

pete s, Sunday, 11 January 2004 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

that bit the other night when hankey turned away from the board toward the camera and stilled himself doing nothing for full on five seconds only to turn and loop 3 darts into the treble 20 was so dramatic and classic!

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 January 2004 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

"Look at his mum!"

I'd rather not if it's all the same

pete s, Sunday, 11 January 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Part was pretty dull as a summariser.

But yesterday was not the best day for NTL to go tits up, and it's still down :o(

chris (chris), Sunday, 11 January 2004 10:51 (twenty years ago) link

'E'S DONE IT! HE'S DONE IT!

HE HAS FRIGGING WELL DONE IT!!!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 11 January 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

GRATE!!

willem (willem), Sunday, 11 January 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

Mark Fitzmorris (sp?) barely containing himself while calling "the World Champion" to the stage: beautiful.

willem (willem), Sunday, 11 January 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

We most definitely have to pay homage to the Viking and get him to serve us World Championship pints pulled by his mighty fat arm.

Who's with me?

Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 11 January 2004 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

Also, anyone who vanquishes the cheating hound that is Mervyn King and his mid 1980s hairdo is alright by me. In Darts, the Gods do not shine upojn treachery, and visit vengeance upon the traitor in the form of drunken Dutch fans braying an heckling.

Anyone notice Mervyn say he might not be back? I reckon he's off to the PDC, using the argument that there's more cashthe abuse he took was bang out of order.

Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 11 January 2004 23:40 (twenty years ago) link

merv were right grumpy in the post match interview, eh?

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 12 January 2004 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

I'd be grumpy if I'd just lost the greatest tournament in World darts for the second time. Luckily, I've never lost a world title at the lakeside yet so in truth i can't empathise with him.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 12 January 2004 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

The Viking is now landlord at the Rose in Dartford, according to the BBC.

Andy supports Rangers and Millwall. Must restrain own prejudices here...

Have to say, this stuff about a fitness trainer I find hard to believe...from the BBC:

But the burly thrower, whose bulky forearms provided an early television highlight of 2004, boasts his own fitness trainer. While Fordham walks along, his trainer offers encouragement from a bicycle...He may not be the archetypal sportsman, but he does at least wear trainers on stage... "My trainers aren't for show - I'm an athlete". The popular Londoner even claims to have been a track and field athlete in his youth, when he allegedly had the nickname 'Whippet.'

I suspect someone might be 'aving a larf...

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:06 (twenty years ago) link

i loved this - was off work sick that week and couldn't get enough of it! ended up blogging about it more than music!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:08 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Andy Fordham's pub was in Woolwich somewhere, but was evidently wrong. Anyone fancy a pilgrimage?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

The dutch television network that covered the event had a brief piece about Andy Fordham in which they showed some pictures of him aged 16 or 18 or so. He could have been a member of the Kings of Leon! Slender & lean. Weird.

Co Stompé (who was in the studio) mentioned that Andy had said he was going to do something about his weightproblem & beer intake this year.

willem (willem), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:30 (twenty years ago) link

yeah I thought it was in woolwich too.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:32 (twenty years ago) link

i'd definitely go there

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:33 (twenty years ago) link

i think he's just moved pubs and hasn't updated his website yet. also:

http://hem.passagen.se/pluver/viking.gif
COOOME OOON!!!

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

Luvverly. He deserved it too - definitely better than King was, and his performance after Barney went 2-0 up in the eighth set of their match... magic.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link


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