ILX: Press × To Continue, Press Δ To Cancel: Best PS2 Games Of All Time NOMINATIONS/FORMAT DISCUSSION THREAD

it's the warriors, there's no point going any further guys

^the only game on cobo's list I haven't played ;_;

A couple that would probably only ever get votes from me, but:
- Ring of Red
- Stuntman

also:
- Gran Turismo 3
- Jak and Daxter (don't think it's been mentioned already)

Looking forward to various Pro Evolution Soccer games getting individual votes because everyone disagrees on which is the best...

ring of red had a good look and was too slow

xp i'm sure we can agree, mine and coz' nom should be the same

Some things I am shocked are not yet up here:

Silent Hill 2
Suikoden III
Suikoden V
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XII
Def Jam Fight For NY
Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy
Tony Hawk Underground
Gradius V
R-Type Final
Outrun 2006 Coast2Coast
DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou

Def Jam Fight For NY
^^^all time

Rez
Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X
SoulCalibur II

although I played the last 3 on gamecube/wii.

There are lots of multi-system stuff that's going to dominate this list; personally, I'd love to see a PS2 exclusive poll. The PS2/XBox/Gamecube/Dreamcast generation seems defined by cross-platform games, and what made each distinct is going to get lost or repeated over and over (Psychonauts and Beyond Good and Evil were two of my favorite games ever, but it seems silly to vote them near the top of multiple systems).

capcom vs snk 2 (2001)
dark cloud 2 (2002)
disgaea: hour of darkness (2003)
gradius v (2004)
grimgrimoire (2007)
growlanser v: generations (2006)
ICO (2001)
klonoa 2: lunatea's veil (2001)
lord of the rings: the return of the king (2003)
marvel vs capcom 2 (2002)
metal gear solid 2: substance (2003)
metal gear solid 3: subsistence (2006)
prince of persia: sands of time (2003)
silent hill 2 (2002)
shadow hearts (2001)
sly 2: band of thieves (2004)
smt III: nocture (2004)
smt: digital devil saga (2004/2005)
star ocean: til the end of time
valkyria profile 2 (2006)
virtua fighter 4: evolution (2003)

CvSNK2 and MvC2 were really DC titles. Hmm... how about Contra: Shattered Soldier?

Was THUG the last good Tony Hawk? I think I tapped out around TH4.

xp I think the PS2-exclusive poll would be better too, though it does seem wrong that you'd have to exclude stuff like GTA and a ton of stuff listed here already. Imagine a generic poll for the PS2/GC/DC/Xbox generation that includes ONLY multiplatform titles!

Also OMG Tekken Tag was godawful. I remember it being terrible when the PS2 first came out. The one I just got actually came with it, so I tried it, wondering if it was really as bad as I thought? And it was. Oh, how it was.

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― antexit, Monday, February 22, 2010 1:44 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

Is this like resident Evil 2? did that get a ps2 release?

CvSNK2 and MvC2 were really DC titles

sure but i mean more ppl probably played them on the ps2 + this is a ps2 poll? its hard 2 say really - like i def wouldnt vote for re4 or okami on ps2 bcuz their definitive versions were on other consoles but @ the same time it makes sense to nominate them & thats probably how a lot of ppl played them.

i think trying to limit a "best ps2 games" poll to console-exclusives wld be p pointless/inauthentic/skewed. i think a generation poll (so ps2/dc/gc/xbox maybe gba?) where ppl specified platform wld work if ppl are interested in making sure the 'best' version of a game is listed

wondering whether to just nom every tony hawk game or not. surely there was something else i played, i'm just not sure what...

yeah i thought re2 was a ps1 game? xpost.

definitive okami is on PS2 iirc

this thread makes me sad that my ps2 is is painfully RIP

the PS2 port of killer7 makes the baby cozen cry but it's still a super rad game

As far as choosing a Tony Hawk goes, number 3 has to be the one really. It's the only one I really fell in love with. Also, it's number 10 on the gamerankings best ever list, and metacritic's number one (which is surprising, to be fair).

I'm also finding it hard to remember much I actually played on that machine though. And of the ones I can remember, none feel like true AAAs really, in retrospect (except THPS3). Burnout 3, SSX, Singstar, The Eyetoy games. They were all fun enough, but I'm not sure my life would've been significantly worse if I'd missed any of them.

Singstar changed my life!

Wip3out ruined your life.

Actually, hold on, I believed your original nom, but Wip3out isn't a PS2 game. You meant Wipeout fusion.

I'll vote for Pro Evo 2005 for the sake of having one unified entry under that banner

Wip3out isn't a PS2 game

aw crap, it was in high res, i thought that meant ps2. oh well scrap it, do not replace with poosion.

games i loved that everyone else prolly hates but i haven't seen them nommed yet but i haven't looked too close but:

burnout: revenge
worms 3d
guitar hero 2
lego star wars 2: orig trilogy
bully
micro machines v4

Frasier, seasons 1-11

i play that on my ps2 more often than anything !

Special game for me would be Transformers i think

THPS3 is the only sensible nom, I think

darragh, is pro evo 05 the same as pro ev 5? I already nommed the latter

THUG was sort of supposed to be like a revolution for the series, it was the first non-"pro skater" and instead there was like an actual story. It was a pretty stupid story to be fair, but there was something to it and I think it's different enough from THPS3 to warrant its own nom.

Some people are talking abt a 6-gen battle royale for best game (DC and PS2 and GC and XBOX) so that games like Rez and Killer7 can get their dues. I am still okay with this even though this thread is started-- Would you all prefer this stay PS2-only? The problem, I think, with opening it up is that we already have so few voters vs. the number of games that the more we open it up the more it's going to be 42-WAY TIE FOR 99TH!

if we're going to poll the last generation, I think we could probably just do polls for the PS2, Dreamcast, GBA, and then a catch-all one "Everything Else", and then do a final poll for the whole generation based on the top 20 results from each of those.

not that that wouldn't be a shitton of work but hey.

Did anybody ever play that shitty-lookin' Warriors game they put out on XBLA? I'm sorely tempted even today, remembering how much I loved that game. Oh! So violent! So visceral! So satisfying!

Yeah I don't know about anybody else but I like the fact that there's going to be some consensus this time-- especially since realistically there's not going to be a lot of hidden gem seeky-outage stemming from this poll. I think as well that you should be able to vote for a cross-platform game that you consider in your nerdy mind has its definitive iteration on another same-gen console. You should NOT be allowed to vote for a game ported down from the next gen just bc you like it a lot, though.

ps i loved the fuck out of some of the tony hawk games on this console but I can't remember which now, and they've been effaced by subsequent suckage... maybe it was THPS4?

i used to watch my mate play the one with the bull ring, for hours it might've been on the dreamcast though.

i thought those were called cock rings

xpost that was THPS2, still my favorite entry in the series. I remember 3 being pretty good but I never even got around to finishing it, whereas I 100% beat 2 on both PC and DC.

3 was the first THPS I played, and I seem to be alone in thinking that 4 was an improvement on 3.

Which is the one with Bam? And all the stuff you have to do that has nothing to do with skateboarding? And the sticker slap which effectively means you can ground-combo eternally with almost no skill?

I think that was the one after 4.

Everybody's Golf 4 aka Hot Shots Golf Fore!

^I'm sure no one will vote for this but so, so addictive.

This is gonna be good and i may be able to help on the final poll.

NBA Street 2
Kingdom Hearts and KH 2
Onimusha
Twisted Metal Black

... drawing a blank; will add more as i think of them.
God, this poll made me break out my old games folder. So many dreamcast discs. Why did i ever get rid of that console.

Also, Forks, a year or two ago you managed to get some pretty awesome non-ilx folx voting (mitch k, for instance)-- did you mail them and ask them to contribute? Or did they find it somewhere else or are they secret lurkers?

I contacted them. Just pick out yer fave eukyarotes and email em!

Do we have to have all the different versions of games like MGS3 or can we all agree that Subsistence is the best one?

I dare not open up my old games cabinet, I'd just end up dusting of the DC and playing Toy Commander all night.

oh go on then

I'm going to combine votes for MGS3 and Subsistence, I only played the former but assume I would have loved the latter jsut as much. They're not really different games, one's just an improvement of the other really

can i request a "list thus far" in the thread, plz?

Which is the one with Bam? And all the stuff you have to do that has nothing to do with skateboarding? And the sticker slap which effectively means you can ground-combo eternally with almost no skill?

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― antexit, Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

That was THUG2. THUG1 was slightly better ubt very full of non-skating things to do (in the bad way).

xpost list coming in under 2 mins. Just making sure I have no doubles.

Ape Escape 2
Ape Escape 3
Beyond Good & Evil
Breath Of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Bully
Burnout Revenge
Capcom vs SNK 2
Contra: Shattered Soldier
dark cloud 2
Def Jam Fight For NY
Def Jam Vendetta
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou
Dragon Quest VIII
Everybody's Golf 4 / Hot Shots Golf Fore
Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XII
Fire Pro Wrestling Returns
God Hand
God of War
God of War II
Gradius V
Gran Turismo 3
Gran Turismo 4
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
GrimGrimoire
Growlanser V: Generations
Guitar Hero 2
Half-Life
Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
Ico
Jak and Daxter
Katamari Damacy
Killer7
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil
Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy
Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King
Madden 08
Manhunt
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
Metal Gear Solid 2/ MGS2 Substance
Metal Gear Solid 3/ MGS3 Susbistence
Micro Machines V4
NBA Street
NBA Street 2
NHL Hitz Pro
Odin Sphere
Okami
Onimusha
Outrun 2006 Coast2Coast
Persona 3
Persona 4
Prince of Persia - Sands of Time
Pro Evolution Soccer 2005
Psychonauts
Ratchet & Clank
Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando
RE2 (?)
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X
Ring of Red
Rogue Galaxy
R-Type Final
Shadow Hearts
Shadow of the Colossus
Silent Hill 2
Singstar
Sly 2: Band Of Thieves
Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
SOS: The Final Escape
SoulCalibur II
Spider-Man 2
SSX
SSX Tricky
Star Ocean: Til The End Of Time
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (w/ III: 3rd Strike)
Stuntman
Suikoden III
Suikoden V
Tekken 4
Tekken 5
Tekken Tag Tournament
The Warriors
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3
Tony Hawk Underground
Transformers
Twisted Metal Black
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Viewtiful Joe
Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
We Love Katamari
Wip3out
Worms 3D
Yakuza 2
Zone Of The Enders 2: 2nd Runner

That's 103 entries.

notes: RE2 and Wip3out are PS1 titles, if the original nominators meant something else let me know or I will cut them (RE4 was PS2, and some other RE titles; Wipeout Fusion and Pulse were PS2, but not W3).

0 story (2000)
ar tonelico II: melody of metalfalica (2007)
atelier iris: eternal mama (2004)
bombastic (2003)
ddrmax dance dance revolution (2002)
devil may cry 3: dante's awakening (2005)
la pucelle tactics (2002)
maximo: ghosts to glory (2001)
ring of red (2000)
xenosaga (2002)

probably need more sports games? only sports game i really play is madden tho + i guess its hard 2 nominate 1 specific year/game? mb it makes sense just to nom series?

also also imo digital devil saga 1/2 is basic the same game for voting purposes

man, is there a website with gifs of those?
would be so awesome XP great minds think alike

I never finished P3FES bcz i discovered it as P4 was just about to come out and switched all my attention over to that. Fully intend to go back to it when i finish but i think i prefer P4's tvworld dungeons inspired by characters psych. issues to the single mega random dungeon. Prefer the world of P3 though. The sequence early on when yr out and everyone turns into a coffin ws fucking great. P3&4 must have some of the most enjoyable fmv sequences of any games.

err, shoulda gone on the name yr case thread really.

MAKE yr case. ffs codeine.

I must not have explained this thing pretty well because like 4 people I e-mailed sent me "sorry I don't have time before March 14th" messages, and another two sent me their ballots-- my reply that "it's only nominations right now" got a reply from one of "oh, so I can add to that list? I switch a for b and c for d, then"