Yesterday's EastEnders

come again?

crap how they started with jonny allen being OMG THE BIGGEST MOST RESPECTABLE CRIME LORD IN THE WORLD OMG, and now he's just going to turn into yet another play thing for the script writers to abuse for the mitchell brothers (who are basically just two bouncers).

And Peggy "I'm a MITCHELL" Mitchell will hopefully stop spouting that line now her boys are back.

As for "He/She's not worth it" uttered by Billy umpteen times a night - God! Get a new line!

I await with pleasure Phil's unintelligible explanation of how he isn't banged up.

Is Grant the undisclosed 3rd party who is buying The Vic? Will he get back with Sharon? Who will be killed during the Proper Family Christmas?

Never mind, you'll be getting some Sonia Jackson/Fowler lezzing-up action soon.

Sonia's new "cultured" best mate, inspired by the fact that Martin's a thicko wingnut who doesn't want to go to Tate Modern or read Animal Farm (and good on him, I say), decides Sonia needs a bit of girlie love.

come again?

Oh, steady on, Finbarr Saunders.

Is Grant the undisclosed 3rd party who is buying The Vic?

Nah, that would be Beale the Squeal, apparently.

Tonight's episode was just Phil'n'Grant by numbers, and rubbish it was too. Still, anything that deflects attention from the lame attempt at an injection of humour that is the Garry'n'Minty show is OK by me.

it was 1984 actually

Madness.

and i can't believe that johnny allen is some god-like status crime lord and phil hasn't even heard of him since he was a baby. and the fact that he had to ask Dot (?!) for information on the mitchell brothers, surely he has contacts elsewhere.

Grant and Phil weren't quite "by numbers" last night. The "I'm too old for this caper, can't we just stand around looking hard?" bit was good, though Grant didn't take long to revert to type afterwards.

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destroy corrie, forever

he's a right CAD as well.

slightly disappointing that eastenders uses "the bloke off of desmonds", "another bloke off of desmonds" and "bloke off of fresh prince" as seemingly the only three black actors over 50...

...also, surely when patrick arrived he was portrayed as a right devil, but now is meant to have been the rubbish one. see also jim branning's r4cialism being swept under the carpet...

Not as bad as British TV/film's "Om Puri is the only Indian actor over 50" steez though.

The guy who plays scary Warren. Where do I know him from?

Will Mellor - Jambo in Hollyoaks, failed pop star, Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps, that thing about posties with Dean Lennox Kelly in it. Some other stuff.

Somewhere there is a job where I get paid for knowing all this shite.

Will Mellor, oh yes.

Ailsa, you're a marvel.

Ha, my mum spends large amounts of her time phoning/texting me to ask me where she'd seen so-and-so before. This is why that kid off Doctor Who is annoying me so much, because I usually just *know* this stuff.

Eastenders is working up to the 'angry radicalised Muslim' storyline isn't it? Oh god.

I get angry and radicalised if I accidentally see any of Eastenders.

does anyone still watch this? not yesterday's but tonight's:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7907262.stm?lss

EastEnders is to air the first episode featuring an entirely black cast for the first time in its 23-year history.
Tonight's programme will focus entirely on characters Patrick Trueman, Denise Wicks, fiance Lucas, and her daughters Chelsea and Libby.

altho i'm sure there was an episode many years ago which was at least 90% Traverniers.

so as not to dilute the corrie thread with filthy eastend shenanigans like i did last time...

it's all kicking off this week. bbc trailers point to peggy's last hurrah and something happening to a certain pub.

soaps are clearly the most important thing in my life at the moment.

the last time I saw it Phil was in the depths of crack addiction but tonight I half-watched and heard people casually talking about him as if everything is normal. Did he recover in five minutes?

no, last we saw of him he was pissed off with peggy and everyone and everything, and said something about having "a plan" whilst looking at the queen vic.

Probably. I saw about ten minutes of it at the weekend and can't remember anything about it.

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I was clearly on some mindbenders up there in this thread when I claimed Sean was a good character in Corrie and that Stacey was a bad character in EastEnders. Or, more likely, this was quite early on in each character's screen life, and they hadn't developed them at all (Stacey - much much better, Sean - mostly no)

becca's persuaded stacey to come off her meds and is trying to turn her against her mum. lacey turner was so good in that live ep.

said something about having "a plan" whilst looking at the queen vic.

he's going to eat the pub

totally going to eat the pub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq8L7ADA7Pk&feature=related

I actually have an answer to this question from years ago on this thread:

slightly disappointing that eastenders uses "the bloke off of desmonds", "another bloke off of desmonds" and "bloke off of fresh prince" as seemingly the only three black actors over 50...

I read somewhere that this is because there are too few roles for black actors, so people drop out of acting early on and go and do other jobs, which means that there are genuinely far fewer non-white actors over 50 to choose from when you're trying to cast something.

I can't believe they burned out the Vic and didn't kill anyone. As someone on the Guardian comments section pointed out, this is the cleansing fire before the HD cameras move into a revamped set.

I can't believe they burned out the Vic and didn't kill anyone.

yeah, although I admire the audacity of having Phil be a crack-fuelled superman who seemed pretty much alright after wandering through raging fire, thick smoke, and the odd massive explosion, and getting crushed by half of the ceiling.