US POLITICS: AMERICANS, PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW PRESIDENT... SCOTT BROWN!

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guess McCain tryin to play up his angry tea party credentials

man, that was excellent. i'm only sort of listening but the second mccain started talking i thought.. wow he sounds like that person in class who clearly has paid zero attention to the entire conversation up until now & also hasn't done any homework, but thinks he ought to waste our time talking anyway

100 Most Irritating Things Students Do in Class.

that's a lot of paper

i hate cantor most of all, i think.

what in the world is going on

he's a clown

"in the spirit of trying to come together" loooooooooll

lol @ using props

i love how he keeps explaining all of rhetorical moves they're making

*the rhetorical

cantor getting spanked.

aren't they all?

stack-of-paper-man looks lost

from what i've seen, it's PREPARED REMARKS, MUCH RHETORIC PREPARED REMARKS, MUCH RHETORIC PREPARED REMARKS, MUCH RHETORIC

-- followed by --

obama extemporaneously addressing each and every point.

I'm not watching this btw what was the McCain snap...?

from what i've been reading secondhand, it sounds like the GOP really and truly cannot say anything other than their rhetorical talking points? is there any thinking at all behind it anymore?

i really wonder if the current generation of conservative leaders just has no capacity to do anything else. "get government out of the way!" yes, but what does that mean, when we're talking about [x regulatory issue]? what exactly are you proposing? "did you hear me? i said, get government out of the way!"

i know it's a caricature, but, that's what i'm reading.

what a tool

what a disaster for paper

suckertary????

"get government out of the way!" yes, but what does that mean, when we're talking about [x regulatory issue]? what exactly are you proposing? "did you hear me? i said, get government out of the way!"

^yep. it's like ok, fair enough. then follow Crazy Ron Paul's lead. if you're not with him on almost every issue (outside of your pet theocratic evangelical bullshit) then you ARE A TOTAL FRAUD. it's nice for your retarded constituency to hear get government out of the way!" echoing back, but it doesn't mean anything.

Apparently Obama has a "more moderate plan available" if things don't work out with this. At this point we're looking at total deregulation of the insurance industry by the time he gets out of office..

I'm not watching this btw what was the McCain snap...?

mccain: takes a turn to speak and goes on about stale talking points from last year that aren't really relevant to discussion at hand

obama: the election is over

it's a little depressing but not surprising that the general level of debate doesn't rise above your average political blogging: "do you really think washington knows better?" "do you really not want any regulation at all?" "government takeover!" "evil insurance companies!" "fraud!" "her dead sister's dentures!"

(thought louise slaughter did kick ass tho -- she used to be my rep, <3 her.)

has anyone put together a nice summary of all the preposterous bullshit republicans have said this morning? I'm at work and just want to read the cliff's notes

the Mccain bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPsbV-IvLDU

looool

<3 u Michael Steele stay strong dogg

hahahahaHAAAA

WHAT UP

The monumental bad faith is so obvious.

that's the thing m. white, i don't even think it's bad faith anymore. i think they do believe this shit. i can't find any other explanation for it. it's a whole party made up of hoos' roomate or something.

stupid or crazy, what's the difference

yeah my only misgiving about obama's "look, you guys support lots of government regulation: food, drugs, etc" is that he's way underestimating the number of congressional republicans who would honest to god scrap all that shit if they had the chance. (or maybe he's just ignoring them and talking directly to "the people," but the number of average americans who would reflexively oppose "government regulation" in any given poll is probably depressingly high too.)

"look, you guys support lots of government regulation: food, drugs, etc"

i'm gonna keep repeating this point -- i think this is only an effective argument against people who feel a duty to have some kind of logical consistency at all, and, republican pols are not those people. i don't think a comparison with some other kind of reg has ever occurred to them.

it's probably worth it for the president to demonstrate one more time that republicans ARE either stupid, or crazy, or lying, or ass-backwards, which i guess is the point of this whole charade.

(that said, the paul ryan budget document was kind of interesting, as far as "consistency" goes)

the real audience for this bs seems to be wavering dems, as in: these are the people you think we ought to be working with, and/or, these are the people who are going to be running things if you fuck this up.

but the number of average americans who would reflexively oppose "government regulation" in any given poll is probably depressingly high too.)

I wonder about that, tipsy. It's kind of like all the high--powered business execs I've talked to who are all 'free-trade,small-government' except when it's their industry that stands to benefit from govt assistance or preference.

The real utility of this, is that it will be a motherlode vein of clips and quotes and zings not only for Nov political ads but the interwebs and their culture of zing.

I vote for crazy over simple stupidity or bad faith.

Weren't they supposed to be back by now?

let's get real here, people think "regulation" means forcing people to pay for owl habitats and jobs for crackheads. you try to point out that it means no thumbs in your meat, no viruses in your lettuce, and stairs that don't collapse...

the real audience for this bs seems to be wavering dems, as in: these are the people you think we ought to be working with, and/or, these are the people who are going to be running things if you fuck this up.

maybe. i think the real audience are any and all "persuadable voters," who will appreciate the fact that the president (a) organized this meeting and is, therefore, "searching for bipartisanship," and (b) just himself against the entire group of gop representatives, is a clear cut above them all, and is making them look foolish.

the "persuadable voters" will, in turn, hopefully pressure their congessional representatives to pass -- or at least give them cover to pass -- hcr.

holy lols at Michael Steele

Here we go

Does any persuadable voter of squishy independent even watch cspan or even the news for christ's sake

some do. more will see it rehashed in other formats.

Boehner's face is the fucking stuff of nightmares, he should be in horror movies

i think the real audience are any and all "persuadable voters" congressional aides and staff.