"everything" is increasingly becoming my fav gucci song of 09
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
hood star, foreign car, topless whip i need a bra
is that the one with the "i put that on eyrrthang" chorus?
― idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link
great song
i heard lemonade irl this wkend too
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link
ya
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link
gucci mane silent but his ice still talkinsippin lean and rappin, call it sleep walkin
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ive been big into the flying lotus mix of photo shoot tho dont dig much other flying lotus stuff or the rest of the free gucci tape
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 28 February 2010 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm reading yall's best gucci verses of the year list (it's great btw) and realizing that one of his neatest tricks is keeping a really tenuous continuity throughout entire verses. i'm only noticing now that i see it spelled out, just listening it often sounds like he's dangerously close to non sequitir, but he's actually v lucid and organized, just in a subtle way.
― samosa gibreel, Sunday, 28 February 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
still not feeling this guy, but here's a present from don rickleshttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=JBH3FNIP
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 28 February 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
samosa otm
― The Reverend, Monday, 1 March 2010 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
my fav track off 'writings on the wall'
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Monday, 1 March 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Tim F wrote the following about funky producer Ill Blu on his skykicking blog & i was showing it to Al on IM w/r/t Gucci parallels & he pointed out very correctly I think that this is particularly true of "Lemonade":
This of course means that on "Heartbreaker" Ill Blu aren't great pop qua pop arrangers, only great pop qua dance music arrangers - unlike an Artful Dodger or a Sunship or indeed a Crazy Cousinz, they're unwiling or unable to reduce and refine their armoury to the point where the song itself can take over, so even their most pop moments sound busy, overwhelming, musically egotistical in a way that undermines the potential for crossover. This is a problem if you're consumed with setting up universal "pop" barometers of judgment, but the question "does this work as a pop song" is always a loaded and misleading one - great pop songs are not instances of "perfect" pop so much as love letters between pop and something else. What's so appealing about Ill Blu is that they increasingly seem to approach their "pop" moments not by toning down their excesses (though earlier tunes like Princess's "Frontline" and their own "Rider" are more straightforward) but by ramping them up - the only way they're prepared to "cross over" is by being ever more ridiculously themselves.
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Monday, 1 March 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
also explains why spotlight was such an artistic failure
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Monday, 1 March 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
i think there's much simpler reasons as to why "spotlight" is so bad -- but certainly "wasted" & "lemonade" are big pop hits on gucci's own terms & people dig them because they are identifiably gucci mane, which "freaky gurl" & "spotlight" and even "so icy" aren't -- the same reasoning can be used to explain why "lollipop" wasn't seen as a massive sellout & why it was embraced as it was where "spotlight" really wasn't
i mean, i think in a lot of cases, rappers will get called on their bullshit -- shameless pop grabs will more often than not get rejected as such, but something like "soul survivor" can become a massive pop hit powered by the artists core fanbase if it seems like a parcel of the artist
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 March 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I would like to hear more about this essence of gucci mane
― noted schloar (dyao), Monday, 1 March 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i think what deej is saying -- & how i interpret that part about ill blu as it pertains to gucci -- is that -- & this is something both deej & i have written about before, i think -- gucci is extremely good at making songs that are blur the line between street & pop in a way that they exist in a middle ground in terms of audience -- he hasn't had a massive, top 10 smash, and he's far from an underground artists at this point -- gucci's discography has so many self-created, catchy choruses that don't belie the tropes of street rap, but work them into the structure of pop in a way that struck me as very fresh -- for as great as lil wayne & 50 cent's mixtape outputs are, they rapped over other people's beats and re-worked pop chorus melodies by interpolating the themes of street rap -- gucci on the other hand just wrote a countless amount of original hooks that do the same and are as catchy as 50 reworking "luv u better" or wayne re-working "what you know" -- there aren't any street rappers who are writing 'pop' hooks that seamlessly streamline in lines like "hit the mall buy everything, in the club buy all the Don/ we just came to have some fun and make the club run out of ones" or "rock star lifestyle might don't make it/ iving life high everyday click wasted/ sipping on purple stuff rolling up stanky/ wake up in the morning 10 clock drankin" -- that is kind of the 'essence' of gucci mane as a really unique pop rapper who, to quote tim, "seem[s] to approach [his] 'pop' moments not by toning down [his] excesses but by ramping them up" -- and this part, "the only way [he's] prepared to 'cross over' is by being ever more ridiculously [himself]." applies to both "wasted" & "lemonade"
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 March 2010 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link
hmm I don't really remember gucci choruses as being particularly poppy or catchy, but I haven't really spent the same amount of time with him that you have. to me they're hard to distinguish because he doesn't really change his timbre or flow for 'em, they kind of blend in to the verses. lol the first instance I thought of him was reworking smiley face into frowney face.
― noted schloar (dyao), Monday, 1 March 2010 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I do have yer best of gucci thing sitting on my hard drive which I've been meaning to give a listen and I'll do so with yer points in mind
― noted schloar (dyao), Monday, 1 March 2010 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
some dudes just have good voices for hooks. method man was by far the best w/ that in wu. 50 def had it -- i remember some old ilx post (spizzazzz post?) about how 50 was the king of the ... microhook? was that it? drake is actually fairly good w/ this too -- i think his voice is used to good effect in 'off that.' gucci totally has this, one trae track i dug this year (rich boy kinda ruined it tho) was "wrist out the window" which just had this loop of gucci going 'my money long as a limo / just to show off i put my wrist out the window', 1st time i noticed his voice being used for another artist's hook that i can think of & i remember thinking how right it seemed
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Monday, 1 March 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
u forgot "rollin rollin rollin, we ain't slept in weeks"
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 March 2010 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link
"wrist out the window" is a good rich boy & gucci track from last year, you bum
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 March 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
it's from that rich boy tape 'bigger than the mayor'
his verse on it is dumb. i heard it on a trae tape, never heard all of 'bigger than the mayor'
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Monday, 1 March 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i don't really remember any details of the song tbh, you're probably right
― waka flocka pedia (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 March 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link
'wrist out the window' is a monster of a track but i really like rich boy so...
― david cam'ron (tpp), Monday, 1 March 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
u ain't seen my mistress?look at my bitch's bitcheven her wrist sick
― david cam'ron (tpp), Monday, 1 March 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
tho gucci has a lot to do with the fact that when i hear these mixtapes tracks nowadays i just assume they are original joints
― david cam'ron (tpp), Monday, 1 March 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.zshare.net/audio/732201208d047805/
this is dope -- love the beat too
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Thursday, 4 March 2010 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link
fuckin love that
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 March 2010 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link
(((d-_-b)))
http://www.zshare.net/audio/7338892867037076/
― jizzchin (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 March 2010 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link
kind of looking forward to seeing how desperate deej's gucci withdrawal will get over the next 9 months
― some dude, Sunday, 7 March 2010 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link
oh nvm i thought he was crying about that on this thread
― some dude, Sunday, 7 March 2010 09:45 (fourteen years ago) link
― jizzchin (J0rdan S.), Sunday, March 7, 2010 4:31 AM (Yesterday)
^^^
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Monday, 8 March 2010 06:47 (fourteen years ago) link
surely the point of order to take from transposing that tim quote onto gucci wrt 'wasted' and 'lemonade' (besides the obvious "artists generally do better at what they're good at and what their fanbase is established on rather than abruptly switching up 4 the masses" truism) isn't in further lauding gucci for some kind of grand deliberate lyrical pop intensification so much as it is in appreciating how much better those particular beats are at facilitating his unchanging gucciness for everyone to immediately enjoy - 'wasted's martial focus freeing up a stage for looseness of content and delivery, 'lemonade's cheerful morbid obesity for cartoonish retail micromonotony.
― r|t|c, Monday, 8 March 2010 11:49 (fourteen years ago) link
r-t-c i want u to break down "i'm a star"
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
w/r/t all that
california endo, kush bag in the rentali was sellin enzos, niggas was playin tendoyou just bought a benzo, gucci mane bought an enzodrop top rarri, jumpin outta the windowrocks on my wrists like wilma had on the flinstonesmoney like a limo, same size as my timbowhole lotta ammo, hottest nigga that i knowscrap like rambo, smokin [dj drop]red charm jello, diamond chain mellow yellowwoke up in a mansion, but grew up in the ghettodon't get twisted, gucci still keep a big owhole lotta hollows, gucci i leave a peep hole
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 March 2010 09:02 (fourteen years ago) link
"I do not like heroics. I like tragedy, and even better, desolation. Heroism has strength, but no beauty, and thus seems to lack humanity. Tragedy, however, resembles the matching of bright red with deep green -- an intense and unequivocal contrast. And yet, it is more exciting than truly revelatory. The reason desolation resonates far more profoundly is that it resembles the conjunction of diamond chain mellow yellow with red charm Jell-O, creating an equivocal contrast."
― dylannn, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:19 PM (1 week ago)
no joke his "well damn, well damn! adlibs MAKE this song, puts a smile on my face every time
― hip negative (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 March 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link
also the more i think abt it the more i think WOTW was the best product he put out last year
― hip negative (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 March 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
ehh im not so into, like, 'pussy rehab'
― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Friday, 12 March 2010 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"pussy rehab" isn't great but tity boi's first verse is actually hot imo, plus i'll take 1000 embarassingly sexual posse cuts over one "spotlight" or "more"
― hip negative (k3vin k.), Friday, 12 March 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
there are more so-so traxx on 'WOTW' that more than make up for 'more' on burrrprint which isnt so much bad as boring
― n00b jack city (deej), Friday, 12 March 2010 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link
money like a limo, same size as mutumbo*
― Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 12 March 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
ahh, that makes much more sense
― hitler runoff (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 March 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1634117/20100317/gucci_mane.jhtml
Burrrrrprint 2HD
"Gucci Speaks""Intro Live From Fulton County JailHD""Boy From the Block""Gucci Speaks/ Shawty Lo Speaks""Parked Outside""Gucci on the Rise""Rick Ross Speaks/ DJ Khaled Speaks""Do This Sh-- Again," featuring Yo Gotti and Rick Ross"Everybody Looking""Yo Gotti Speaks""Coca Coca" featuring Rocko, OJ Da Juiceman, Waka Flocka, Shawty Lo, Yo Gotti and Nicki Minaj"Gucci Speaks""Here We Go Again""Lil' Kim Speaks""Antisocial," featuring Mylah"Beat It Up," featuring Trey Songz"Gucci Speaks""911 Emergency""Alley Boy Speaks""How I'm Living," featuring Jim Jones"Shining for No Apparent Reason," featuring Waka Flocka and Wooh Da Kid"I'm So Tired of You""Outro Live From Fulton County JailHD"
haha, name scheme for this series is getting confusing, but who cares! wahoo
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
haha shining for no apparent reason: the wooh da kid story
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
lmao at that name
― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm so glad that gucci's call from jail was somehow taped in high definition
― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link