Is that really madonna?

I always took her to be being sold as the CEO of her own company (product = herself): with access to all the "helpful hands" she can hire (= cool by me). I've never been bothered by the Milli-Vanilli type argt anyway (someone else's voice, maaan: good — then her voice must be rubbish, and I'm glad we don't have to hear it). but, yeah, why does she make a *thing* of her guitar teacher when she wouldn't do the same with, eg, her dance trainer?

http://15.media.tumblr.com/rOmq2WMt3qid001hFVD2zcSVo1_500.jpg

This has to be a 'shop, right? Not even Iggy Pop has arms like that.

that is iggy pop

Dreamcatcher necklace ;_;

The big chunky man's watch is a bit of a giveaway.

The more I look at it, the more I'm convinced it's a 'shopped photo. The lighting/edges/shadows all look artificial. In fact, the only thing that looks untouched is her face (except for the brow, which was retouched to look bad too).

it'd say something decadent about our technological development that anyone would bother using Photoshop to make Madonna's arms look any more, umm, interesting than they already do

haha aren't you funny nabisco

It's just the harshness of the flash, surely? I've just spent two glorious minutes looking at recent images of Madonna on the web and her arms are pretty much approaching that in every picture.

You all wait until you're 62 years old and see how your arms will look then.

"To demonstrate that the arms in the photo were in fact Ms. Ciccone's, a simple theory must be explicated..."

http://blogs.trb.com/sports/football/jets/blog/kevin%20costner%20jfk.jpg

In Madonna's case, we'll be waiting another 11 years.

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i could see her arms looking like that for real, after all she's old and skinny and works out a ton

sorry, I thought it was a generally known thing that Madonna's arms, due to an insane diet and fitness regimen, look a bit unusual and frightening, which you wouldn't say to Madonna's face because they also look like she could tear you and several phone books in half with them

sometimes one forgets to differentiate between "notable facts people actually know" and "some random celebrity junk everyone talked about for a few days"

hahahaha no, no, I wasn't disagreeing with you nabisco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye4gtLdwO1o

She's so good here. Love that husky quality of her voice.

https://pagesix.com/2022/10/12/plastic-surgery-experts-on-the-work-madonna-did-to-her-face/

No Judgements here but she looks kind of like kabuki or something in that dinner party pic - I say she can do what she wants! Leave Britney alone!

It's funny to me how that article makes six separate references to her in this time-honored format: the “Like a Prayer” singer; the “Like a Virgin” singer; the “Material Girl” singer; the “A League of Their Own” star; the “La Isla Bonita” singer; the “Vogue” singer.

(No judgments, but she is unrecognizable now.)

the “You Must Love Me” singer

Still aging a lot better than Simon Cowell

SO many "schock of science" exploitation films of the 50's for the possibilities of plastic surgery (Jail Bait by Ed Wood) yet it took this long for the reality to come to season

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-XUW1fhyJHd5dFQDu-wfzfsg-t500x500.jpg

can we not do this

A bunch of dudes picking on the cosmetic decisions of a woman?

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There are photos where she looks pretty close to what she used to look like, photos where she looks like a 64-year-old woman who's almost certainly had some work done, and photos where she looks like a cross between Genesis P'Orridge and Orlan. And that's great! And here's why!

not picking on cosmetic decisions, as stated

kinda self-hate for the times i've ever poked fun at anyone trying to improve their appearance via whatever methods they choose, and due to that i feel hypocritical trying to preach but i don't think anyone deserves to get dragged for their decisions about their own looks, it just shouldn't even be a thing at this point. a couple friends of mine have moms who were vv much in the public eye and they're aging for the most part normally, and they get dragged for that too. it's a no-win, in the shifting goalposts set up by many members of the watchful public.

she's also in an industry where people share public photos of them daily and praise or mock how she looks, and also one that rewards people that 'age well', so there could be a litany of reasons she chose to do it.

i don't gaf why, let her live, and will be seeing her in September.

omar otm

Latham I know you say no judgment but you did follow that up with a few posts of mockery, and sharing gossip column article is likely to generate such circular "look at her" firing squads. i just don't want us to turn into Star magazine like portions of old-ILX could tend to be

I get it, but it's Madonna, she wants people to talk about her.

not picking on cosmetic decisions, as stated

― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, February 7, 2023 6:44 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if you say "no judgment" yet your post is extremely judgmental, that says a lot about how little accountability you're used to taking for your statements

You're right, it was judgmental. But know this, it was not meant to be harmful. Be that as it may, I take it back if it has caused harm. I do have a poison pen at times, and this is not helpful to anyone, nor productive.

It's possible to comment on someone's changing appearance without mocking them for it. I find her face (and the additional stuff she does, like the gold teeth and the eyebrow bleaching and stark, extreme makeup and whatnot) fascinating, not in an "Oh my god, look at her face! What a tragedy!" way but in more of a "Huh, that's an interesting look" way. I'm actually more interested in it because I don't think it's about allegiance to conventional beauty standards or fear of aging or whatever. It's sort of like what John Waters said about Divine: that he didn't want to be pretty, he wanted to be a monster. If Madonna wants to be a monster (and I don't mean that in a pejorative sense at all, I mean it in a folkloric/mythological sense), that's cool. And I view it as I would any other cosmetic decision — she did it because she knew people would be looking at her and she wanted them to see her in a certain way, the same as if she'd gotten a big, obvious tattoo. So look at it! Have thoughts about it! But you can't condemn without knowing the reasons why. And unfortunately there are no interviewers capable of having a real, serious, interesting discussion about it with her without coming off like finger-pointing assholes.

There are photos where she looks pretty close to what she used to look like, photos where she looks like a 64-year-old woman who's almost certainly had some work done, and photos where she looks like a cross between Genesis P'Orridge and Orlan. And that's great! And here's why!

― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, February 7, 2023 12:43 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah something I've noticed about that sort of extensive surgery is there are always some angles where they look fine but when you look from a different angle or change the lighting suddenly everything looks off. that's a thing with Elon Musk too

who knows why she does any of the things she does, I think people forget that Madonna was sort of on the same level as Michael Jackson, there ain't no human being on the planet like 'em. agree though that it would be cool if an interviewer could take her seriously and try to find out

I do have a poison pen at times

Oh for fuck’s sake. This got a major cringe lol out of me.

same