MAKE YOUR CASE: A Thread for Defending an Individual PS2 Game

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i'll give it a shot re: san andreas

i played it for a while before going to sleep last night. i started by heading to my wardrobe to fiddle around with my character's outfit for about 15 minutes (i always loved the paper doll aspect of this game, and it's a lot more advanced than it was in VC), then went outside and shot a few random people before hopping into my rhino tank parked under an overpass. i turned my turret around so that it was facing behind the tank, then accelerated forward while firing behind me to increase speed. i rampaged my way to my airstrip, where i got out of the tank and got into a harrier jet, which conveniently has a radio. i turned it to the deep house station and listened to some guy sing about living in harmony while i unleashed fiery death upon the denizens of las vegas (i forget what it's called in-game). eventually i make the mistake of flying over area 51 (forgot its in-game name too) and i almost get shot down but i bail out in time, except i forget how to work my parachute and end up splatting on the ground.

why san andreas over gta3 or vice city? well, it's just better, but i guess that isn't as self-evident as i thought. gameplay-wise it makes the others seem hopelessly crude, 'fixing' a lot of the simple issues that would jar you out of the game experience - swimming, jumping, targeting, car physics, camera, etc. (this stuff is a big deal, because it makes the game that much more playable!) its range of environments makes vice city seem monochrome and monotonous (vice city feels really cramped to me, and there's no range as far as what it evokes - it just makes you feel like a drug lord from beginning to end), the writing's at its funniest and most interesting, the missions are amazing and the voice acting owns (the gta games are the only ones where celebrity v/o make sense)

some things i didn't like about it:

-not enough options after you finish the game - it would've been nice if you could've had the option to replay any mission from the game (there's some amazing set-piece missions in this game), or at least be able to initiate gang-wars again

-cutting off some songs early, meaning no monster breakdown on Rusty Cage and no sick instrumental section of Freebird ;_;

-wardrobe interface pretty clunky and slow

-it pushes the limits of the ps2 and out of neccessity the draw distance is very low, making things difficult when you're piloting the high speed harrier

those are extremely nit-picky and are basically the only things i could possibly hold against the game. something i keep coming back to when i think about san andreas is, funnily enough, something s1ocki said about goodfellas once - talking about the scene where sorvino slices garlic with a razor blade, he simply says 'there's nothing else like that.' well, there's nothing else in gaming like san andreas. except maybe gta4 but i havent played it and i heard it was boring anyway plus it's on another system so who cares. i mean, gta's main legacy is probably the proliferation of sandbox games, but i can't think of a single game in that style that reminds me at all of gta, especially san andreas - nothing with the ambition or the ability to see that ambition through. i mean, nobody else even WANTS to make a game where you can fly a jetpack, murder cops with a dildo, get into dofgights 2 thousand feet above the ground while listening to wreckx-n-effect, decide between a caesar and a fade - let alone TRIES.

That basically how I break it down to an extent.

Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

why san andreas over gta3 or vice city? well, it's just better, but i guess that isn't as self-evident as i thought.

haha. i def need to replay the ps2 gtas (gta IV is aight but not special in the way u mention i think). ill admit that the smaller scale and more modest ambitions of vice city make it more approachable/playable for me ~ the possibilities were big enuff to be thrilling w/o being so wide as to be intimidating.

(Head) (Lamp), Thursday, 4 March 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

canks: GTA4 is absolutely jaw-droppingly beautiful, but there is just less to do in the city and the mission design is a lot less interesting than SA's.

i'm thinking of writing one of these up for mercenaries but i don't know if it's really worth it tbh

goole, Thursday, 4 March 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread is making me sad I got rid of my ps2 and my ps3 isn't backwards-compatible. What happened to my ps2, anyway? I can't even remember.

antexit, Thursday, 4 March 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

gta iv: 'ballad of gay tony' feels closest to gta: sa to me at least as far as story/characters.

i'm #FFFFFF btw (bnw), Thursday, 4 March 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like the lightbulb went off when they were making SA: if we make all these places and cars and weapons, we should have the plot incorporate going to all of them and using all of them. i swear 65% of IV is, "drive six blocks, watch cutscene, shoot 6 guys, get $400".

goole, Thursday, 4 March 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.djc.com/blogs/BuildingGreen/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/shrugging.jpg

"IT'S A LIVING!"

antexit, Thursday, 4 March 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

The online play in GTA IV is so underrated.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

It's such a drag that no one ever plays the Lost and the Damned multiplayer mode called Chopper vs. Chopper, because it is THE BEST.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

it's basically Road Rash, right?

antexit, Friday, 5 March 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

updated the blog w/ Tombot and Canx' writeups and the most current ballot

/no cobo (jamescobo), Friday, 5 March 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

blog?

goole, Friday, 5 March 2010 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

http://cointandplick.wordpress.com

basically just a hub for ILG's collective polling shenannnigans

/no cobo (jamescobo), Friday, 5 March 2010 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

speaking of which, one of the top referring search terms is "Dom Passantino"

/no cobo (jamescobo), Saturday, 6 March 2010 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom? (cankles), Saturday, 6 March 2010 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

u no what: http://img.golivewire.com/ib/349724_f.jpg

super hot old dudes (Lamp), Thursday, 11 March 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

it's basically Road Rash, right?

No. One of you is in an attack helicopter, and the other is on a motorcycle. The helicopter is supposed to kill the guy on the motorcycle as quickly as possible, and you take turns. Whoever gets the most kills within a set period of time wins.

Getting murdered via helicopter blades is very common.

It is sooooo awesome.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 11 March 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

something s1ocki said about goodfellas once - talking about the scene where sorvino slices garlic with a razor blade, he simply says 'there's nothing else like that.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6awlN1HawY

antexit, Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah yeah

actually tried replaying GTASA earlier this year - as in starting from the beginning and playing through the game - its still a very entertaining game, but... yeah, a bit dated now. big post up there probably has some rose colored glasses goin on

Onigaga (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah there's no support for 3D televisions for example

antexit, Saturday, 20 November 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, nobody else even WANTS to make a game where you can fly a jetpack, murder cops with a dildo, get into dofgights 2 thousand feet above the ground while listening to wreckx-n-effect, decide between a caesar and a fade - let alone TRIES.

classic

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Saturday, 20 November 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link


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