Taylor Swift: Fearless Poll

i mean at least i am going to. i feel like i'm arguing with sarah palin

Carole King wrote "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow" when she was 18. Stevie Wonder wrote "Uptight" when he was 16. Age is a red herring here, folks. If you want to argue there's something inherent about Swift particularly, that's fine, but falling back on ZOMG SHE'S A TEENAGER WHAT COULD SHE POSSIBLY KNOW ABOUT LIFE will get you exactly noplace.

wtf kinda sense does that make, you listen to the sarah palin of music

carole king and stevie wonder didn't limit their subject matter to songs about being a teenager. her age comes up because it's all she fucking sings about.

yeah i think we're the sarah palin in this equation, kev

uh, my itunes top played artists are john cale, smog, jacques brel and the beach boys

Hey, how about those deep, meaningful, engaged-with-the-world lyrics Mike Love and Brian Wilson wrote when they were 19 and 20 amirite?

if carole king wrote 'will you still love me after 3rd period' and stevie wonder wrote 'uptight: about homework I don't want to do', people might like those songs less

taylor should cover porpoise song imo

i think age gets brought up so much w/r/t to t.swift because a) she mentions it all the time ihs b) most of themes are articulated in p teenage way and c) theres a p omnipresent teenage quality to her music - its brash emotionalism & its immediacy &c - that makes it hard to avoid talking abt.

i mean this is more time than i ever wanted to spend thinking abt taylor swift so w/e its all subjective.

oh & my most played album in itunes is nachtstrom's 17 songs after midnight. so yeah

haha beach boys lyrics are awful, even when they're good! they had some other things going for em. taylor swift don't.

carole king and stevie wonder didn't limit their subject matter to songs about being a teenager. her age comes up because it's all she fucking sings about.

― iatee, Thursday, March 4, 2010 5:09 PM (5 minutes ago)

these rappers only rap about "pimpin and bitches"

Dude, she's a teenage girl. Teenage girls tend to lead pretty insular lives. I'm okay with her sticking to that for now, because she does it pretty well.

those guys aren't rappers, you should prolly listen to more old music kev xp

Next people are going to me telling me that I should check out Metric for some really intense female songwriting with depth, as i'm just fronting with this enjoying things that are obviously good business. Confusing place ILM.

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i feel that .gif so deep in my heart

frankie valli sang about being a teenager

xp dude ive been looking for that for so long, i have cranky dorks on ilm to thank for finally finding it

idk i think "lyrical depth" requires a distance & nuance that a 20 yo or 18yo or w/e the fuck she was when she wrote those songs doesnt really have.

well i said she was honest and artful, which doesn't necessarily mean "deep." i don't actually think she's all that "deep," but otoh patti smith is "deep" and some of her stuff is way the hell more embarrassing than any taylor swift songs. i think taylor swift writes exceptionally good pop songs about the experiences of being a teenager. that's plenty for me.

DickieV Last week I saw Gladys Knight in concert n tonight= 'm going to see Taylor Swift-that is versatility baby just like Evan Turner!

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Uh oh, time for another poll!

so this is basically about discomfort with people expressing extreme amounts of enthusiasm isn't it

it's cool lampatee--sometimes ppl weird me out when they do that too

Forever and Always wuz robbed people

DickieV Taylor Swift was Awesooome Baby! half a minute ago via mobile web

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dickie v's opinions abt most things > dickie v's opinions abt college bball

there are lots of Taylor Swift songs I haven't heard, but I do know that if I'm at a place where I'm practically forced to listen to country music radio and I hear "Love Story," then I'm pretty happy. And if I hear "Tim McGraw" (the song) then it's been a good fucking day...

I would probably characterize "You Belong With Me" as enjoyable fluff, but I don't think it's a totally inappropriate candidate for song of the year...I like "Daniel" and "Obsessed" (wz this even nominated?) a little more, and "Paparazzi" a little less...

has anyone itt heard of the intentional fallacy

pretty boomin band imo

duly noted, noted scholar

I just listened to White Horse for the first time...that's a pretty affecting song...

for all the haters who are like "it's ok for teenage girls, but be real, bros..." it's possible that you are letting the slick, produced mainstream pop-country sound and the accordant teenage wholesome good-girl image distract you from the songwriting smarts that are clearly there...

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plus, you never know, maybe there was actual teenage girls who post on here. it would be pretty crazy i know, everyone knows girls don't REALLY like music, not proper music like us guys. AM I RIGHT GUYS? YEAH! WHOO!

what?

xp my bad, wasn't trying to say that there wasn't...

plz don't start another ILM Census.

*registers teenage girl sockpuppet*

(how is it that Lamp says that teenage girls don't have real thoughts and I get shit?)

*registers teenage girl sockpuppet*

But... I thought Emily's Cheese was already on the site? :(

on my first listen-through, this is pretty d-_-b

parts of 'the way i loved you' sound like sk8er boi. and the opening to 'tell me why' sounds like that alicia keys song 'like you'll never see me again'

I got so bothered at how the J Newsom thread was just a giant carnival of internet yuks despite not liking that album all that much, and I kind of <3 Swifty but I always suspect her heterosexual grown man fans of having a fantasy about watching their girlfriends die in childbirth

Trying to stay one step ahead of the patriarchy has ruined my life, guys

chill out take a drive in a truck

ABSENTMINDEDLY MAKIN ME WANT U

A B C how did you peek into my secret heart and find out my desirs?

:kanyeshrug:

I kind of <3 Swifty but I always suspect her heterosexual grown man fans of having a fantasy about watching their girlfriends die in childbirth

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title track got fewer votes than i thought it would!

tswizz :3