Erykah Badu: C /D, S&D

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"They might not make it past the first track of this one if they have the RAMP album.

-- Andy K"

what did they jack from that one for this album?

pipecock, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link

"american promise"

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost - "Honey" did pretty good on Urban Adult-Contemporary radio, but outside of that it underperformed.. I don't think this will sell huge numbers but, much like Jill Scott, Erykah has a pretty solid fanbase so I think she'll do around 150K first week and go at least gold.

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:23 (sixteen years ago) link

plus, they're really promoting this - i've seen a few commercials, they have a starbucks tie-in, etc. it'll do respectably.

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:24 (sixteen years ago) link

how much of the mizell's did she "plagiarize"? besides johnny hammond smith. and she covered Think Twice, right? did these fake friends never listen to tribe, black moon, main source?

jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I think both "Booty" and "Time's A Wastin," right?

Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Personally, I don't find it altogether problematic, and my imaginary friends and I aren't really on speaking terms anymore.

Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:46 (sixteen years ago) link

can't wait to hear this!

tricky, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost - i kind of hate sa ra too. never added up to much apart from one or two songs and great interview quotes.

mr x, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link

The Cell is so amazing.

stevie, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link

See...this record is the bizness. The slurry almost-Theo Parrish production on "Twinkle" is killing me. And Badu is still on another brain plane lyrically. This is great.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link

It sounds like Pino Palladino playing on "The Cell." The bass is what makes the song....

Patrick South, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah serious album of the decade potential.

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

MOVE OVER BIG & RICH

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i came home a little drunk from a show last night and apparently i itunes'd this.

is that roy hargrove on 'me'?

Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

hell yeah that's roy hargrove

also the bass player all over this thing is my new favorite bass player, with an appropriately awesome name: Stephen "Thunder Cat" Bruner!

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production? it sounds antique, in the best way.

stevie, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Bruner even plays on "The Cell"? Sounds so much like Pino....

Patrick South, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

"is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production?"

its a sample from a roy ayers produced group called RAMP.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

is that one of the sa-ra guys on amerykahn promise pretending to be dr funkenstein?

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost - "Honey" did pretty good on Urban Adult-Contemporary radio, but outside of that it underperformed

It's still climbing, albeit very slowly (#29 now, #30 last week, #32 the week before that), on the R&B/Hip-Hop chart.

Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

which tracks did sa-ra produce, anyway?

Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

3 - Shafiq Husayn
6 - Shafiq Husayn, Erykah Badu
7 - Taz Arnold, Shafiq Husayn, Erykah Badu, Mike Chavarria
8 - Shafiq Husayn
9 - Erykah Badu, Om'Mas Keith, Shafiq Husayn

(Husayn, Arnold, Keith = Sa-Ra)

Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

"is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production?"

its a sample from a roy ayers produced group called RAMP.

-- titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:08 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Hehe -- yeah, basically some voices over the WHOLE of "The American Promise." The RAMP album (which is so much more than "Daylight," "Everybody Loves the Sunshine") was reissued in the States last year by Verve and is very cheap.

Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Apparently I like Sa-Ra alot, since I think the album's B-side is the stronger one.

Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

But, man, is it all good.

Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and Roy Ayers, Edwin Birdsong and William Allen are all credited as producers/writers on track one.

Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

sa-ra just have the worst vocals ever on their own material. which is why it sucks so bad a lot of the time. they should stick to producing for other people, like erykah or bilal or whoever and STFU or just make instrumentals. then again i find a lot of their own stuff derivative or just too 'soft' anyway.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

im sure roy doesnt mind - he was on mamas gun anyway.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

the sa-ra hate is retarded. vocals are so rad. unfortunately the album the eventually released sucked. singles and weird shit that was passed around on cdr for years before album is mindblowing.

jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Telephone is a eulogy to dillah. especially apparent w/the sirens he used all over donuts. also love the fact that she redid one of my favorite songs - eddie kendricks "my people" also used on donuts.

jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Cover reminds me of The O'Jays' SURVIVAL.

Terrible Cold, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I would really like to hear Erykah Badu cover Siouxsie & the Banshees, particularly Tinderbox-era songs.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

have to agree w jaxon on sa ra. i obtained said cd-r of sa-ra instrumentals/bsides in 2002, and they were fucking brilliant pieces of synthy/damaged soul hip-hop. at the time everyone was jocking; kanye, common, all wanted a piece of sa-ra production.since then, they've done alot of work, but somehow kind of fizzled in many peoples eyes. some of the remix work is great, some of it's not so great. that album they released later on ubiquity is aight but nothing near the expectations people had after all those tracks that were passed around. the work they did on this badu record i have to say though is pretty amazing.

oscar, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I rather like Dan's idea.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Karriem Riggins (even though his track here isn't one of the flashier ones).

Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

sick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Lf1wMylIE

Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

couple tracks in so far, feeling it.

pipecock, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Telephone is a eulogy to dillah. especially apparent w/the sirens he used all over donuts. also love the fact that she redid one of my favorite songs - eddie kendricks "my people" also used on donuts.

OTM, that kendricks track is mind-blowing. would love to hear the whole LP it came from. telephone kills me, i loved common's dilla tribute on finding forever too. thanks titchy and andy for RAMP info.

stevie, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link

jaw drops around 1:30 (xpost)

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Look for Michael Jackson’s little sister Janet to enter next week’s chart at #1, with her new IDJ album Discipline headed for 180k in sales, give or take. Universal Motown’s neo-soul stalwart Erykah Badu is a lock for #2 (hey, that rhymes) with between 125-135k.

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

kinda low :-/

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

actually that's pretty good! considering "honey"wasn't that big... I expected about 150K and it can still probably do that.

Janet, however... those numbers are sad.

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post -- Yeah, but given the business climate and all, not surprising.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

stevie, that Kendricks album is unfortunately nothing like the title track. the rest is nice sweet soul. i remember one other good track on it.

jaxon, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

OTM, that kendricks track is mind-blowing. would love to hear the whole LP it came from.

The album of which you speak, People...Hold On, does blow much, much mind from beginning to end. Now I gotta put on "Eddie's Love."

Terrible Cold, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

i am listening to the ramp track now. hahahaha, awesome!

stevie, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

haha, the singer on the ramp stuff sounds kinda badu-ish.

Jordan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

my favorite ramp song is that disco-ish one that got reissued on 12" recently ... i cant remember what its called but i bought a copy and like it more than anything (yes anything!!) on the lp

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

: D : D : D : D

The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link


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