US POLITICS: AMERICANS, PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW PRESIDENT... SCOTT BROWN!

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I hope their slogan is something like, 'For when you don't give a shit where you take a shit."

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

"poopy time, every time"

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Where the hell is Garu G when we need him? This thread has definitely wandered into his areas of expertise.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

WS

the pity party of tiny feet (onimo), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

"would sit"?

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

would flange

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

"Would shit"?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm leaving that one open

the pity party of tiny feet (onimo), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd temporarily forgotten Garu G - now I'm going to have the words "gran's flange" stuck in my head :(

the pity party of tiny feet (onimo), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm leaving that one open

as in 'I'd leave that for a few mins if I were you'?

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

And right about now, Jim Lehrer gets up and tells the town hall that time is up and thanks them for their very, very interesting comments on the state of the GOP.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly guys, we should all meet up at a town hall and riff through it, we could be legends

esp. if we all show up in pret-a-poop recliners

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

wow guys good morning

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Suddenly hearing 'Heroes' in my head w/imagery of ILX on their mobile shitterecliners zinging up a small storm.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahaha

ksh, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Only problem is that the fringe (haha) of the teabaggers present will open fire.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

now I'm going to have the words "gran's flange" stuck in my head

Just be grateful it's not this^

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

wow guys good morning

http://anngoodmorningcurry.ytmnd.com/

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Shitter policy

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Upon further investigation, the "needs x-ed" construction isn't so much Midwestern as Mid-Atlantic, I guess; maybe having lived so close to Pittsburgh for so long, where it's really prevalent, got me thinking it's a rust belt deal. Here is a little Boston.com article on it, but if you search through resources for linguists for the phrase "needs washed" you'll find a lot of discussion.

CHARLIE BERTHOUD MOVED to Pittsburgh five years ago, but he and his family are still having a bit of trouble with the local lingo.

"The words to be are eliminated from phrases on a regular basis," he reports in an e-mail. "The sink needs fixed. The lawn needs cut. Just last week, we got a notice from our son's school, saying that the kids' homework 'needs reviewed' by parents."

For him, as for many Americans, there are two proper ways to phrase these needs: The sink either "needs to be fixed" or "needs fixing." Is this third option wrong, Berthoud wonders, or just a regional variation?

Or both, he might have added. Needs fixed is usually labeled a regionalism, most familiar in western Pennsylvania and parts of Ohio, in the Midland dialect area. The Oxford English Dictionary labels it Scottish, Irish, and northern English as well, and it has friends in Australia and New Zealand.

So whether it sounds wrong may depend on where you come from. Having spent my formative years near the Midland dialect border, I surely heard "it needs washed" and "they need cleaned." I don't think I ever used them, but they don't sound utterly bizarre.

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Fascinating.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

The first place I've lived in the USA where I've regularly encountered the "needs fixed"-type locution is Kansas. I am not a fan.

Most important performer of our generation: (Euler), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I've just heard it (and said it) for so long it sounds perfectly normal to me. Just yesterday, I told my wife, "Boy, your car needs washed."

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Like 'needs must' it posits a syntactical meaning to 'need' that doesn't exist in my vocabulary but it is perfectly clear.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a "Warshington" Post article about it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62786-2004Oct25.html

My childhood neighbor was from Indiana and said "needs warshed" all the time.

Pierced nose! Performs improv! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh "warshed"

goole, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, my grandmother (from West Va.) says "warshed." And "oncet" instead of "once."

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Oncet? Like a past participle of 'once'?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

my father is a big warsh speaker (born and raised in Michigan)

gelatinous rube (brownie), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

That's it. In some places in the South, you'll hear both "oncet" and "twicet!"

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

It just occurred to me that getting 'wunts' out of something that looks like 'ohnss' is just plain odd.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Does that ever belled into anything else that ends in 'ce' or 'ts'?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

belled? I mean bleed. Jeeze

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Does that ever belled into anything else that ends in 'ce' or 'ts'?

yes but all the words are dirty

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I hate to break it to Charlie, but that closet pederast is more likely to have gotten the back wax.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

We cannot get stupid fast enough in this country, eh?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, my grandmother (from West Va.) says "warshed."

So did my grandma from New Jersey.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

tons of old people do that shit -- cf pretty much every old (southern) football coach saying "Warshington"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 March 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah most people around where I grew up say "warshed" as well as the "needs _____" thing. I suppose it's grammatically incorrect but I usually don't even notice.

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"I was showering yesterday.." I need a shower

this also = totally normal speech, to me. tracer I could say French has warped my brain too (sometimes w/r/t/ sentence structure, placement of adjectives especially) but this is a phrase I avoid altogether since one would say "prendre une douche"

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Does he need to listen to Rahm Emanuel more? Or maybe less? Or rely on his cabinet more? Or reach out to Republicans more? Or maybe less? Brendan Nyhan has what you need to know about this entire genre of article: "If/when the economy picks up, Obama’s speeches will start 'connecting' and everyone will marvel at how effective the White House political team has become."

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2010/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-obamas-political-team.php

o. nate, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

As a Washingtonian, "Warshington" sets me off into murderous rampages.

flocka flamingos (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

altogether since one would say "prendre une douche"

Yeah, I have never heard 'se doucher'.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

prendre une douchebag

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Douchez-vous!

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

As weird as learning 'douche' was French for shower was the idea that, transliterated, the French expression for douche was 'vaginal shower'!

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

couche-douche?

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

;_;

gelatinous rube (brownie), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link


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