US POLITICS: AMERICANS, PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW PRESIDENT... SCOTT BROWN!

And right about now, Jim Lehrer gets up and tells the town hall that time is up and thanks them for their very, very interesting comments on the state of the GOP.

srsly guys, we should all meet up at a town hall and riff through it, we could be legends

esp. if we all show up in pret-a-poop recliners

wow guys good morning

Suddenly hearing 'Heroes' in my head w/imagery of ILX on their mobile shitterecliners zinging up a small storm.

hahahahaha

Only problem is that the fringe (haha) of the teabaggers present will open fire.

now I'm going to have the words "gran's flange" stuck in my head

Just be grateful it's not this^

wow guys good morning

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Shitter policy

Upon further investigation, the "needs x-ed" construction isn't so much Midwestern as Mid-Atlantic, I guess; maybe having lived so close to Pittsburgh for so long, where it's really prevalent, got me thinking it's a rust belt deal. Here is a little Boston.com article on it, but if you search through resources for linguists for the phrase "needs washed" you'll find a lot of discussion.

CHARLIE BERTHOUD MOVED to Pittsburgh five years ago, but he and his family are still having a bit of trouble with the local lingo.

"The words to be are eliminated from phrases on a regular basis," he reports in an e-mail. "The sink needs fixed. The lawn needs cut. Just last week, we got a notice from our son's school, saying that the kids' homework 'needs reviewed' by parents."

For him, as for many Americans, there are two proper ways to phrase these needs: The sink either "needs to be fixed" or "needs fixing." Is this third option wrong, Berthoud wonders, or just a regional variation?

Or both, he might have added. Needs fixed is usually labeled a regionalism, most familiar in western Pennsylvania and parts of Ohio, in the Midland dialect area. The Oxford English Dictionary labels it Scottish, Irish, and northern English as well, and it has friends in Australia and New Zealand.

So whether it sounds wrong may depend on where you come from. Having spent my formative years near the Midland dialect border, I surely heard "it needs washed" and "they need cleaned." I don't think I ever used them, but they don't sound utterly bizarre.

Fascinating.

The first place I've lived in the USA where I've regularly encountered the "needs fixed"-type locution is Kansas. I am not a fan.

I've just heard it (and said it) for so long it sounds perfectly normal to me. Just yesterday, I told my wife, "Boy, your car needs washed."

Like 'needs must' it posits a syntactical meaning to 'need' that doesn't exist in my vocabulary but it is perfectly clear.

Here's a "Warshington" Post article about it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62786-2004Oct25.html

My childhood neighbor was from Indiana and said "needs warshed" all the time.

ugh "warshed"

Yep, my grandmother (from West Va.) says "warshed." And "oncet" instead of "once."

Oncet? Like a past participle of 'once'?

my father is a big warsh speaker (born and raised in Michigan)

That's it. In some places in the South, you'll hear both "oncet" and "twicet!"

It just occurred to me that getting 'wunts' out of something that looks like 'ohnss' is just plain odd.

Does that ever belled into anything else that ends in 'ce' or 'ts'?

belled? I mean bleed. Jeeze

Keeping the tone of modern politics high

hahaha

Does that ever belled into anything else that ends in 'ce' or 'ts'?

yes but all the words are dirty

I hate to break it to Charlie, but that closet pederast is more likely to have gotten the back wax.

We cannot get stupid fast enough in this country, eh?

Yep, my grandmother (from West Va.) says "warshed."

So did my grandma from New Jersey.

tons of old people do that shit -- cf pretty much every old (southern) football coach saying "Warshington"

yeah most people around where I grew up say "warshed" as well as the "needs _____" thing. I suppose it's grammatically incorrect but I usually don't even notice.

"I was showering yesterday.." I need a shower

this also = totally normal speech, to me. tracer I could say French has warped my brain too (sometimes w/r/t/ sentence structure, placement of adjectives especially) but this is a phrase I avoid altogether since one would say "prendre une douche"

Does he need to listen to Rahm Emanuel more? Or maybe less? Or rely on his cabinet more? Or reach out to Republicans more? Or maybe less? Brendan Nyhan has what you need to know about this entire genre of article: "If/when the economy picks up, Obama’s speeches will start 'connecting' and everyone will marvel at how effective the White House political team has become."

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2010/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-obamas-political-team.php

As a Washingtonian, "Warshington" sets me off into murderous rampages.

altogether since one would say "prendre une douche"

Yeah, I have never heard 'se doucher'.

prendre une douchebag

Douchez-vous!

As weird as learning 'douche' was French for shower was the idea that, transliterated, the French expression for douche was 'vaginal shower'!

couche-douche?

;_;

Voulez-vous doucher avec moi ce soir?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2d/Couche-Tard_logo.svg/150px-Couche-Tard_logo.svg.png

real-life lol

that owl is doing o_O !!!!

massa talkin to beck now

this is bizarre but v entertaining.

i think a big problem with massa is, if anyone explained to him how to behave like a professional politician, he didn't listen one bit. which is always very entertaining of course & also it's great when someone is nuttier than beck, but not in a way that beck seems to know how to handle - seems to be worried about his viewers getting bored. excellent

seriously great tv
beck getting kinda pissed off at times - it seems like he expected massa to say one thing, and he's saying another (esp blaming both parties and not just who beck expected he would blame)
massa comes off like a regular blue collar dude who has had more than enough of the BS (lobbying, fundraising, expectations of interest groups) in politics
as for the groping allegations w/r/t staffers: comes off as military/fratboy/jock behavior, but that's one side of the story obvs

real-life lol

I love how these things sound odd from one language to the next. 'Couche-tard' literally means a someone who goes to bed late, i.e., a night-owl. Coucher is related to couch and tard, well it is in 'retard', meaning 'delay' isn't it? I have a friend who's big into wine but cannot pronounce French well or read it and when I first taught her how to say bottle (bouteille) in French, she cracked up since it sounded like 'bootay' said w/a French accent. I used to joke with my ex-wife when she said she was going to put new sheets on the bed since there was nothing but context to differentiate between her 'sheet' and her 'shit' at first.

I's have thought that Massa was a bit librul for Beck's taste, no?

would it depend on your accent, because i'd say it sounding like 'kousch-taar' and not pronounce the "d" at all

massa sounds like a reagan democrat type who'd fight the party over economic issues such as, would've been strongly against NAFTA; says he is a fiscal conservative.

i don't think this is what beck wanted out of this interview & i tend to think the white house won't be much bothered by it.

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look who ran an ad during this program! for the lulz