US POLITICS: AMERICANS, PLEASE WELCOME YOUR NEW PRESIDENT... SCOTT BROWN!

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That's it. In some places in the South, you'll hear both "oncet" and "twicet!"

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

It just occurred to me that getting 'wunts' out of something that looks like 'ohnss' is just plain odd.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Does that ever belled into anything else that ends in 'ce' or 'ts'?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

belled? I mean bleed. Jeeze

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Does that ever belled into anything else that ends in 'ce' or 'ts'?

yes but all the words are dirty

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I hate to break it to Charlie, but that closet pederast is more likely to have gotten the back wax.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

We cannot get stupid fast enough in this country, eh?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, my grandmother (from West Va.) says "warshed."

So did my grandma from New Jersey.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

tons of old people do that shit -- cf pretty much every old (southern) football coach saying "Warshington"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 March 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah most people around where I grew up say "warshed" as well as the "needs _____" thing. I suppose it's grammatically incorrect but I usually don't even notice.

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"I was showering yesterday.." I need a shower

this also = totally normal speech, to me. tracer I could say French has warped my brain too (sometimes w/r/t/ sentence structure, placement of adjectives especially) but this is a phrase I avoid altogether since one would say "prendre une douche"

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Does he need to listen to Rahm Emanuel more? Or maybe less? Or rely on his cabinet more? Or reach out to Republicans more? Or maybe less? Brendan Nyhan has what you need to know about this entire genre of article: "If/when the economy picks up, Obama’s speeches will start 'connecting' and everyone will marvel at how effective the White House political team has become."

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2010/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-obamas-political-team.php

o. nate, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

As a Washingtonian, "Warshington" sets me off into murderous rampages.

flocka flamingos (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

altogether since one would say "prendre une douche"

Yeah, I have never heard 'se doucher'.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

prendre une douchebag

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Douchez-vous!

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

As weird as learning 'douche' was French for shower was the idea that, transliterated, the French expression for douche was 'vaginal shower'!

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

couche-douche?

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

;_;

gelatinous rube (brownie), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Voulez-vous doucher avec moi ce soir?

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

that owl is doing o_O !!!!

goole, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

massa talkin to beck now

this is bizarre but v entertaining.

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i think a big problem with massa is, if anyone explained to him how to behave like a professional politician, he didn't listen one bit. which is always very entertaining of course & also it's great when someone is nuttier than beck, but not in a way that beck seems to know how to handle - seems to be worried about his viewers getting bored. excellent

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously great tv
beck getting kinda pissed off at times - it seems like he expected massa to say one thing, and he's saying another (esp blaming both parties and not just who beck expected he would blame)
massa comes off like a regular blue collar dude who has had more than enough of the BS (lobbying, fundraising, expectations of interest groups) in politics
as for the groping allegations w/r/t staffers: comes off as military/fratboy/jock behavior, but that's one side of the story obvs

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

real-life lol

I love how these things sound odd from one language to the next. 'Couche-tard' literally means a someone who goes to bed late, i.e., a night-owl. Coucher is related to couch and tard, well it is in 'retard', meaning 'delay' isn't it? I have a friend who's big into wine but cannot pronounce French well or read it and when I first taught her how to say bottle (bouteille) in French, she cracked up since it sounded like 'bootay' said w/a French accent. I used to joke with my ex-wife when she said she was going to put new sheets on the bed since there was nothing but context to differentiate between her 'sheet' and her 'shit' at first.

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I's have thought that Massa was a bit librul for Beck's taste, no?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

would it depend on your accent, because i'd say it sounding like 'kousch-taar' and not pronounce the "d" at all

massa sounds like a reagan democrat type who'd fight the party over economic issues such as, would've been strongly against NAFTA; says he is a fiscal conservative.

i don't think this is what beck wanted out of this interview & i tend to think the white house won't be much bothered by it.

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

http://i41.tinypic.com/50i5xu.jpg

look who ran an ad during this program! for the lulz

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

beck sorta got punked here

hahaha he just turned to the camera and said "i think this is the first time i've wasted an hour of your time"

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Holy shit that ruleZZ

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah daria, no "D"

I have never heard 'se doucher'

Right but you know what I mean - in French the joke "how does your dog smell?" "with his nose" doesn't work because of the explicitness of reflexion - with "I shower" I'm like on tenterhooks for the thing that is being showered or indeed showered upon. If you said "Je vais doucher" - "I'm going to shower" - it would be incomplete - you'd need to know what the object of the sentence was. I am just repeating myself now, I'll stop.

"If you sheet on my bed I sheet on your head"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost - the show was a treat! just about the whole hour beck had this look on his face like 'this is not what i thought would happen' & also seemed clear beck hadn't done much research and couldn't manage to keep a coherent story going

i really believe beck thought massa would come on there and trash rahm emanuel and blame the democratic leadership for everything, and that's not remotely what happened, massa just came off as regular joe six pack who hates politics

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

massa just came off as regular joe six pack who hates politics

― daria-g, Tuesday, March 9, 2010 11:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

and who might be gay.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

no i don't think so.

daria-g, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

god fuck this stupid shit daily kos blogger on olbermann

i can make my sprays turn into a shart (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

This is grim.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link

John Yoo needs to be slapped upside his head

“What’s the big whoop?” he asked. “The Constitution makes the president the chief law enforcement officer. We had an election. President Obama has softer policies on terror than his predecessor.” He said, “He can and should put people into office who share his views.” Once the American people know who the policy makers are, he said, “they can decide whether they agree with him or not.”

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link

It's still weird that Cheney et al are totally oblivious to the near-universally accepted public opinion that their administration was the worst in our country's history. They must never talk to anyone outside their evil circle.

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 07:23 (fourteen years ago) link

On the other hand, Adam, there's this:

Susan G at Dkos caught a brilliant illustration of the Village mentality in this New York magazine profile of Liz Cheney:

Fox is a regular pulpit, of course, but Liz is also all over NBC, where she happens to be social friends with Meet the Press host David Gregory (whose wife worked with Liz ’s husband at the law firm Latham & Watkins), family friends with Justice Department reporter Pete Williams (Dick Cheney’s press aide when he was secretary of Defense), and neighborhood friends with Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski, daughter of Carter-administration national-security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski. When Mika criticized Dick Cheney on her show last year, the former vice-president sent her a box of chocolate cupcakes.

[...]

Liz’s friends say she sets the bar for all-American normality: She watches Mad Men and 24 on TV, drives an SUV, attends Girl Scout meetings, and is frequently spotted on the sidelines of soccer fields, trading gossip with people like Terry McAuliffe, Washington Post reporter Glenn Kessler, and other power players whose kids go to the Country Day School or the Potomac School.

The fact that these All American folks are also millionaire celebrities with the most powerful people in the world on their speed dials shouldn't be taken as signs that they aren't just like you and me. In fact, they are Real Americans in ways that the frou-frou coastal liberal elites will never understand.

And as Susan rightly notes, there is another teensy problem with this confortable arrangement:

This idea that the national press corps can cozy up to sources or people in power they cover during afternoon soccer games or over Saturday night dinners, then turn around and hold their feet to the fire is ridiculous. You know it. I know it. Everyone outside of Beltway zip codes knows that. Hell, anyone who's ever tried to challenge a neighbor at a local meeting knows it.

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link

so i mean the cheneys (meaning dick and liz) are just straight-up fascists without the name huh? i mean, i know, i shouldn't use that superword and all, but if you question the patriotism and moral standing of those sworn to defend the accused, then you basically have no regard for the institution of law in a putatively free and civil society.

i mean i expect this sort of stuff from dumbfuck talk-show hosts and whatnot, just your basic fascist red-baiting-type thing. but from the daughter of a man who has served in two branches of the federal government, once as vice president? (and one presumes dick is not opposed himself.)

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean people point to cheney's support for gay marriage, his lack of obvious racial bigotry, etc. as evidence that he's not all bad. sure, but what sort of society and government do you think cheney envisions? a democracy in name perhaps. maybe a bit at the local level? there's little evidence that he has much regard for democratic or civil institutions in general.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

this is pretty lazy but i always think of cheney's aberrant support of gay marriage as being not so much proof of his humility but proof that blindly apportioned sanctimonious judgements crumble the second you actually encounter the things you're 'against'. maybe there should be a forced disclosure act for congresspeople's sons and daughters.

werewolf congress (schlump), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link

that same miracle occurs when a family member gets an incurable disease re: stem cells.

bnw, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

don't forget liz cheney's organization ACTA - http://www.goacta.org/

founded specifically to hound university professors for not being conservative enough, after 9/11 it named 117 academics who it found insufficiently patriotic and called them the "weak links in the chain" in america's fight against terrorism

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

the Potomac School

A super expensive private school in McLean, Virginia outside DC for snobby folks who don't want to attend the local public high school that is highly ranked and impressive; and for those who will drive a distance from elsewhere in DC, Virginia and Maryland so as to avoid having their kid attending a public school.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I take that back, I did not know she drove an SUV and watched network TV. She truly is a real American.

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link


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