russell brand - C or D?

And Ms Baillie has a nice new career.

Isn't Britain wonderful?

sit in front of the newspaper, more like.

I'm presuming that this evening's edition of Never Mind The Buzzcocks, featuring R Brand as guest captain, will be "postponed."

Bet it's not.

Loving how all the papers are all united in publishing "BBC FILTH MUST END NOW" headlines.

It's been replaced by one with James Corden as guest captain. I can only assume nothing offensive will be said about anyone on that, or on the Graham Norton show afterwards. xpost

Will be interesting-ish to see what Hislop makes of it all on HIGNFY tomorrow.

Actually, with guest host Tom Baker, I can't see it being anything other than excruciatingly horrible.

why is there only a system for taking complaints and no system for taking supporting arguments? is paying your licence the only kind of support, until you decide to complain about it? oh you have a teevee, you must be in favor of our radio programs, until you write in and say you're not, in which case, thank you for continuing to pay for socialized teevee, hopefully the person who you don't like quits in shame.

this is almost worse than when congress holds hearings about fucking baseball

Yes, welcome to the lovely, blanded out BBC where no one ever does or says anything that offends anyone else for fear of some saddo in a bedsit who's run out of Kleenex ringing in to "complain."

Just like in the olden days.

The Mail to-day...

Lest we forget: Or what the BBC won't let you hear....

We apologise to readers who may be offended by the explicit and disturbing language used. But we think it is important to know exactly the sort of material these presenters thought so funny.

Followed by yet another airing of the full transcript.

Yeah, but think about it:

Pre the so-called 'liberalisation', any slight reference to a rude word would result in hundreds of complaints, and 'action' taken. It wasn't that long ago (was it? reassure me) that Shaun Ryder was banned specifically by ch4 charter from ever appearing live again. (and that was after the 'Patrick Cox shoes' incident - did the 'pretty vacant' come later?)

Now, it's perfectly alright to swear as long as you are a TV chef.

Sex, swearing, all fine now, nobody (well, relatively few) bother complaining.

That's why it's taken so long to generate a head of steam about this issue: the people who'd not bother (and in actuallity, aren't that bothered) about complaining suddenly feel enfranchised (that a word?) to take up their phones and/or commentboxes and join in.

Personally, I have more of an issue about TV 'detective'/'police' dramas that always seem to involve rapes and/or grisly murders as if it's all in a days life. That's more responsible for knife crime than people actually carrying knives, I reckons.

I get to the point of saying "we done with this subject/thread now?" but still the outside media carry it on further, so I guess we're not.

When's the Pope issuing a statement?

Or what the BBC won't let you hear....

They taken it off 'iplayer'?

I didn't notice but the Mail has the bits that WERE NOT EVEN broadcast.

I read the transcript: It's a bit funny, in a sort of tragic inevitability way. It's not massively oppressive. About how far through were the pair in that sort of "bollox, we're fucked now" mind?

It would only have been on iPlayer for a week after broadcast

xxpost

did anyone kick their PC in?

It is true that the right-wing anti-BBC campaigners who want to privatize everything are bad and hypocritical and dangerous to Britain and the world.

But it is also true that Ross and Brand are scum and should not be allowed on the BBC.

Where are the 27,000 complaints to the Press Complaints Commission about the Daily Mail publishing knowingly offensive material? Why has Paul Dacre not been suspended or dismissed from his post as editor of the Daily Mail for peddling filth?

Oh yes, I forgot - It's A Good Story.

I don't think you can say 'fuck' on tv before 9pm, which was the issue with Ryder and Evans wasn't it?

I think the printing of material that wasn't broadcast might warrant a complaint.

xps

and let us not forget it was because of JRoss and RBrand that caused ASachs the trauma of being hounded by the press outside his own home... Of course, his granddaughter hasn't caused it by giving interviews to the Sun about how she was callously shagged etc...

Clarkson and his cronies and George Lamb are all scum also. They should not be allowed on the BBC either.

xp there is a suspicion that RBrand told JRoss that he'd had sex with the girl - Off-air and unrecorded. How long until that conversation is imagined and reported?

xp again: Is GLamb on the BBC?

But Georgina Baillie, 23, said that despite his ladies’ man reputation, he was a “disappointment” in bed.

Not much detail, The Sun must have been disappointed.

I think the unnecessary printing of material that was broadcast to a small, specialised audience spreads poison and should warrant substantial disciplinary action.

Everyone makes tasteless jokes in pubs.

But if these were overheard, written down and published in mass circulation newspapers it would qualify as spreading of hateful material.

If the person who made the joke in the first place was sacked from their job and/or investigated by the police as a result of someone else publishing remarks that were never meant to be published or go beyond the pub table in question then this country might as well vote in a Nazi dictatorship and be honest about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081722/Georgina-Baillie-Russell-Brand-obsessed-Fawlty-Towers-grandfather-bed.html

(will let you decide from the URL whether you actually want to read poor Georgina's terrible side of the story)

And Ms Baillie has a nice new career.

Jealous talk.

If they had got through to Sachs for the interview, they still would have ended up mentioning "I fucked yr grand-daughter" right? I wonder how things woyuld have played out then.

(note gratuituous mention of Brand's former heroin addiction near the end for extra HE IS A BAD MANG, DO YOU SEE points)

xpost to myself

Mark - Andrew Sachs basically doesn't give a shit about any of this.

He didn't exactly look traumatised when the press interviewed him on the news yesterday.

And no one else gave a shit about any of this until the Mail on Sunday decided to stick their oar in.

Patrick - not "jealous talk," just pointing out the real beneficiary of two other careers needlessly going down the toilet.

You wish you had her lifestyle! Who wouldn't.

Some concerned citizens, yesterday

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/mozzer232/FATHER_TED_Down_with_this_sort_of_t.jpg

http://www.newstatesman.com/law-and-reform/2008/10/madeleine-mccann-daily-british

Newspaper accountability - demanded only of others.

Brand's first response to this, "what's worse, leaving a swearword on Andrew Sachs's answerphone or supporting the Third Reich?" was pretty classic.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/30/article-1081722-024BD9BD000005DC-252_233x399.jpg

Miss Baillie's comments came as her pro-wrestler ex-boyfriend threatened to 'give him a smack.'

Alex Shane, a 19-stone twice British champion heavyweight wrestler, said: 'I thought it was really out of order.

'I think Brand is used to getting away with these things.

'He needs to be taught some humility. He's very quick-witted but shows a real lack of class. It's gutter low.

'Just give me five minutes in the ring with him!'

Okay NOW it's a good story.

The thugs and barbarians always find a way.

You know what? I don't even blame her. She should make out of it what she can. It wasn't until the balloon went up bigtime that she pitched in. If she hadn't, she was in a no-win situation anyway. Might as well...

For all RBrand isn't the 'kiss and tell' type, he is the 'kiss and blurt it out when it gets too much' type.

There's a bunch of women with 'shagged by RBrand' stamped on their fhead. What to do?

xxxpost I'm sure he's not bothered (ASachs I mean. Nearly typed Sacher there. WTF?), but the hounds of the press on the doorstep is more of a trauma than a bunch of crap ansaphone messages...

Boxer b-friend in "I'm much bigger and stronger than RBrand, so I feel like I can beat him up and everyone will cheer me hray!" um, sandwich.

Bad news dude: It's two rounds, and the first round involves smack.

So it's OK for a Max Clifford-backed, self-proclaimed Satanic Slut to torpedo the careers of others?

"Shagged by RBrand," not "Raped by RBrand" - they had a choice.

Hahahahahahaha OMFG Alex Shane. Seriously, this is where it gets funnier.

Printing the material again and again is indeed bad and hypocritical, as Carlin says.

But it is wrong to equate making a joke in a pub with saying something on a BBC radio programme which is probably heard by millions (really! R2 is the most popular channel in the country) and for which you are paid £££££. Those are two totally different scenarios.

George Lamb appears on 6Music and is a diabolical prick who knows nothing and gets paid for it.

Torpedos were already launched.

Not "OK", no, but as I say, I don't believe her interview has added to the weight against them. More likely made some go "Her? Actually, I'm less bothered now."

xpost oh yeah, forgot about 6musi.

Dom, is Mr Shane as charming as he looks?

But it is wrong to equate making a joke in a pub with saying something on a BBC radio programme which is probably heard by millions (really! R2 is the most popular channel in the country) and for which you are paid £££££. Those are two totally different scenarios.

The point is the Mail is now printing stuff that WASN'T broadcast. That was what I thought might be worth a compliant.

For all RBrand isn't the 'kiss and tell' type, he is the 'kiss and blurt it out when it gets too much' type.

I think everyone's forgetting it was Ross who did the public blurting. Also, if you can get past Alex Shane, it also says in that article that it was an ongoing relationship of more than a year Baillie had with Brand, not just a one-night stand. If you have an ongoing relationship for a year with a known serial shagger, you can't expect it to be totally private.

Dom, is Mr Shane as charming as he looks?

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Seriously, where to start.