russell brand - C or D?

I read the transcript: It's a bit funny, in a sort of tragic inevitability way. It's not massively oppressive. About how far through were the pair in that sort of "bollox, we're fucked now" mind?

It would only have been on iPlayer for a week after broadcast

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did anyone kick their PC in?

It is true that the right-wing anti-BBC campaigners who want to privatize everything are bad and hypocritical and dangerous to Britain and the world.

But it is also true that Ross and Brand are scum and should not be allowed on the BBC.

Where are the 27,000 complaints to the Press Complaints Commission about the Daily Mail publishing knowingly offensive material? Why has Paul Dacre not been suspended or dismissed from his post as editor of the Daily Mail for peddling filth?

Oh yes, I forgot - It's A Good Story.

I don't think you can say 'fuck' on tv before 9pm, which was the issue with Ryder and Evans wasn't it?

I think the printing of material that wasn't broadcast might warrant a complaint.

xps

and let us not forget it was because of JRoss and RBrand that caused ASachs the trauma of being hounded by the press outside his own home... Of course, his granddaughter hasn't caused it by giving interviews to the Sun about how she was callously shagged etc...

Clarkson and his cronies and George Lamb are all scum also. They should not be allowed on the BBC either.

xp there is a suspicion that RBrand told JRoss that he'd had sex with the girl - Off-air and unrecorded. How long until that conversation is imagined and reported?

xp again: Is GLamb on the BBC?

But Georgina Baillie, 23, said that despite his ladies’ man reputation, he was a “disappointment” in bed.

Not much detail, The Sun must have been disappointed.

I think the unnecessary printing of material that was broadcast to a small, specialised audience spreads poison and should warrant substantial disciplinary action.

Everyone makes tasteless jokes in pubs.

But if these were overheard, written down and published in mass circulation newspapers it would qualify as spreading of hateful material.

If the person who made the joke in the first place was sacked from their job and/or investigated by the police as a result of someone else publishing remarks that were never meant to be published or go beyond the pub table in question then this country might as well vote in a Nazi dictatorship and be honest about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081722/Georgina-Baillie-Russell-Brand-obsessed-Fawlty-Towers-grandfather-bed.html

(will let you decide from the URL whether you actually want to read poor Georgina's terrible side of the story)

And Ms Baillie has a nice new career.

Jealous talk.

If they had got through to Sachs for the interview, they still would have ended up mentioning "I fucked yr grand-daughter" right? I wonder how things woyuld have played out then.

(note gratuituous mention of Brand's former heroin addiction near the end for extra HE IS A BAD MANG, DO YOU SEE points)

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Mark - Andrew Sachs basically doesn't give a shit about any of this.

He didn't exactly look traumatised when the press interviewed him on the news yesterday.

And no one else gave a shit about any of this until the Mail on Sunday decided to stick their oar in.

Patrick - not "jealous talk," just pointing out the real beneficiary of two other careers needlessly going down the toilet.

You wish you had her lifestyle! Who wouldn't.

Some concerned citizens, yesterday

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/mozzer232/FATHER_TED_Down_with_this_sort_of_t.jpg

http://www.newstatesman.com/law-and-reform/2008/10/madeleine-mccann-daily-british

Newspaper accountability - demanded only of others.

Brand's first response to this, "what's worse, leaving a swearword on Andrew Sachs's answerphone or supporting the Third Reich?" was pretty classic.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/30/article-1081722-024BD9BD000005DC-252_233x399.jpg

Miss Baillie's comments came as her pro-wrestler ex-boyfriend threatened to 'give him a smack.'

Alex Shane, a 19-stone twice British champion heavyweight wrestler, said: 'I thought it was really out of order.

'I think Brand is used to getting away with these things.

'He needs to be taught some humility. He's very quick-witted but shows a real lack of class. It's gutter low.

'Just give me five minutes in the ring with him!'

Okay NOW it's a good story.

The thugs and barbarians always find a way.

You know what? I don't even blame her. She should make out of it what she can. It wasn't until the balloon went up bigtime that she pitched in. If she hadn't, she was in a no-win situation anyway. Might as well...

For all RBrand isn't the 'kiss and tell' type, he is the 'kiss and blurt it out when it gets too much' type.

There's a bunch of women with 'shagged by RBrand' stamped on their fhead. What to do?

xxxpost I'm sure he's not bothered (ASachs I mean. Nearly typed Sacher there. WTF?), but the hounds of the press on the doorstep is more of a trauma than a bunch of crap ansaphone messages...

Boxer b-friend in "I'm much bigger and stronger than RBrand, so I feel like I can beat him up and everyone will cheer me hray!" um, sandwich.

Bad news dude: It's two rounds, and the first round involves smack.

So it's OK for a Max Clifford-backed, self-proclaimed Satanic Slut to torpedo the careers of others?

"Shagged by RBrand," not "Raped by RBrand" - they had a choice.

Hahahahahahaha OMFG Alex Shane. Seriously, this is where it gets funnier.

Printing the material again and again is indeed bad and hypocritical, as Carlin says.

But it is wrong to equate making a joke in a pub with saying something on a BBC radio programme which is probably heard by millions (really! R2 is the most popular channel in the country) and for which you are paid £££££. Those are two totally different scenarios.

George Lamb appears on 6Music and is a diabolical prick who knows nothing and gets paid for it.

Torpedos were already launched.

Not "OK", no, but as I say, I don't believe her interview has added to the weight against them. More likely made some go "Her? Actually, I'm less bothered now."

xpost oh yeah, forgot about 6musi.

Dom, is Mr Shane as charming as he looks?

But it is wrong to equate making a joke in a pub with saying something on a BBC radio programme which is probably heard by millions (really! R2 is the most popular channel in the country) and for which you are paid £££££. Those are two totally different scenarios.

The point is the Mail is now printing stuff that WASN'T broadcast. That was what I thought might be worth a compliant.

For all RBrand isn't the 'kiss and tell' type, he is the 'kiss and blurt it out when it gets too much' type.

I think everyone's forgetting it was Ross who did the public blurting. Also, if you can get past Alex Shane, it also says in that article that it was an ongoing relationship of more than a year Baillie had with Brand, not just a one-night stand. If you have an ongoing relationship for a year with a known serial shagger, you can't expect it to be totally private.

Dom, is Mr Shane as charming as he looks?

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Seriously, where to start.

I'm hitting google to find all my favourite Shane anecdotes, but if you're looking for a carny bastard who epitomises all that is shady and underhand about the wrestling scene, then you've hit paydirt with this character. He may also have had sex with a Thai tranny at one point, this is unconfirmed.

On reflection I'm sure Baillie didn't have any direct input into the hypocrisy that caused all this. But Clifford and the Sun input don't help her case.

Pinefox - as I have already said several times on this thread the Russell Brand Show is (or was) broadcast to a relatively small and very specialised audience WHO KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE GETTING WHEN THEY TUNED IN and indeed formed the reason why Brand was given the show in the first place, i.e. he was expected to be "edgy" and "controversial."

Given that only TWO listeners complained about the prank before the Sundays blasted it into public consciousness then your theory doesn't hold, I'm afraid.

Good character witness for Ms Baillie then?

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If I was Ms Baillie I'd be checking my purse last thing before I went to sleep at night and first thing in the morning, put it that way.

Wait, so we have a tranny chaser indie wrestler involved in the mix now? STOKED FOR THE MADNESS, as they say in the classics.

jerks got what they deserved, hurrah for the press (for once)

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Brand's first response to this, "what's worse, leaving a swearword on Andrew Sachs's answerphone or supporting the Third Reich?" was pretty classic.

I'm quite enjoying all the "senior BBC broadcasters" sticking the boot in completely anonymously.

"what's worse, leaving a swearword on Andrew Sachs's answerphone or supporting the Third Reich?"

Two sniggering fucks indulging in a bit of laddish misogyny and getting paid an enormous amount of money for it?

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