mark which fopp and were there many there? i would def get it at that price.
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
actually i see its down to only £40 on amazon now so seems holding out a while has actually worked.now just gotta wait until neil young archives is £50
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
This was Tottenham Court Road, London, though I have seen it in other places.
(or was it £35?, cannae remember...)
(Check the Monsieur Fopp thread, I posted it there)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
The major disappointment from this set was that the version of Born In Time I mentioned above wasn't one of the two(!) versions included. So the (to my mind) definitive version remains bootleg-only.
― Officer Pupp, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i guess the "born in time" from those Oh Mercy bootlegs is different from this one ... Still the same general arrangement though, right -- vastly superior to the Under the Red Sky version.
Wonder what the next Bootleg Series will be?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Still patiently awaiting Basement Tapes
― Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
that'd be something! i assume it'll happen someday ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, the Born In Time on the Oh Mercy bootlegs is the same arrangement, but a different take I guess. One of the Tell Tale Signs versions is an edit of two takes iirc, which surely must have happened at the time; it would be an odd thing to do 20 years later when there are perfectly good full takes in the can.
Pure speculation of course, but I can only assume that if an edit was made at the time, it must have been a contender for inclusion on the album by someone at some point.
― Officer Pupp, Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link
oh goodness the "Born In Time" on disk 3 is extraordinary; as the guy says at the end of the next song on disk 3, "fuckin lovely". Who's on guitar? A perusal of the net suggests that Dylan, Lanois, and Malcolm Burn (a compatriot of Lanois, evidently, and later producer of Iggy Pop & Mellencamp) each played guitar on the track. And Dylan played dobro on it too!
― Euler, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 07:49 (thirteen years ago) link
I really need to snag this one. G;ad to see 'Mississippi' getting some love in the box. I think its among the best Dylan tunes of the last two decades & ranks pretty high in the overall list. Love & Theft was a nice gritty disc.
― ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Dylan's laugh at the end of Marching To The City is great. Did he steal the opening lines? Whatevs, they're awesome.
Well, I'm sitting in churchin an old wooden chair I knew nobody would look for me there
― tylerw, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
"Born in Time" has a lovely melody, but it's on the generic side, joining "Emotionally Yours" and "To Make You Feel My Love" – a bunch of okay, disconnected lines attached to a non sequitur chorus.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
still like these lines a lot
On the rising curveWhere the ways of nature will test every nerveYou won’t get anything you don’t deserveWhere we were born in time
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link
The lyric is ok, with some def. clunkers and some nice parts, but it's forgivable with a melody that lovely and playing that delicate.
― Euler, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah---"You won't get anything you don't deserve" is a nicely hard-nosed line, the sort of wrath of God lyric he's always excelled at.
― Euler, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's one of those "bob has been listening to old tin pan alley songs" lyrics. "The foggy web of destiny" etc. But yeah, with Dylan's delivery (on the Oh Mercy outtakes) and the melody, it's something special.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Doesn't Randy Jackson from American Idol play on Born In Time? I'm pretty sure he does.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
He plays on the Under The Red Sky version. On the Oh Mercy ones (which I'm talking about specifically), it's Daryl Johnson.
― Euler, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
When will Bob be a guest judge on AI?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
They floated that a few years back and Simon made some snarky remark asking "when was the last time he had a hit song." Then ironically enough, last season some guy sings To Make You Feel My Love and Simon gushes about what a brilliant, incredible song it is. I'm pretty sure he thought it was a Garth Brooks song.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, a dylan night on that show wouldn't be the nuttiest thing in the world -- those songs are open to a wide range of interpretation.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
not that i'm advocating for that kind of thing. it'd probably be godawful.
Even with Bob Dylan, I don't think I could sit through an episode of AI.
― ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
especially if the singer picks the most boring Dylan song of the last twenty years. I don't get the attraction to "To Make You Feel Like My Love" -- is it so popular because it's so colorless and vacant?
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
have people other than Garth Brooks and whoever the person on AI was covered it?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Billy Joel.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I think that may be exactly why its so popular. Nobody has to do any of that icky thinking stuff.
― ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, billy joel covered it? i don't think it's a horrible song, but as far as Dylan love songs go, it's not so hot.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
accroding to Wiki: It has also been covered by Trisha Yearwood, Neil Diamond, Joan Osborne, Luka Bloom, Josh Kelley, Timothy B. Schmit, Kelly Clarkson, Ronan Keating, Winifred Horan (from Solas), Emily Loizeau, Bryan Ferry, Mary Black, Ruarri Joseph, Phil Keaggy, Taylor Hicks, Jon Peter Lewis, Kris Allen and Maria Muldaur.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a modern standard
He has probably 500 better songs.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, I forgot Ferry's version, which should tell you something.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Is the "Born In Time" that's raved about on this thread, the one on Genuine Bootleg Series volume 2 (disc 3)?
― Euler, Friday, 18 March 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think it's the exact same take, but it's pretty much the same? i feel like the vocal is slightly different.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 March 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Do you have a rec on a good Oh Mercy sessions boot? once again blown away this morning with "Born In Time" & the other "Oh Mercy" tracks on the various Genuine Bootleg Series vols are hott.
― Euler, Friday, 18 March 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Deeds of Mercy.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 18 March 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yesss this one: http://www.bobsboots.com/CDs/cd-d13.htmlgood stuff, though some of the stuff that showed up on tell tale signs suggests that there is even better stuff -- the acoustic "most of the time" is stunning. i think there must've been a whole tape of dylan just doing these songs on solo piano/guitar.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 March 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
nice
It's one of those days when latter-day Bob sounds like the best thing in the world.
― Euler, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
here's a great fanmade comp of roughly this period that i've been enjoying (some crossover w/ the deeds of mercy thing)1) Hard Times (Live at Willie Nelson's Big Six-0)2) Political World (Oh Mercy Outtake)3) 2x2 (Under the Red Sky Outtake)4) Ragged & Dirty (Live 1993)5) Jim Jones (Live 1993)6) TV Talkin' Song (Under the Red Sky Outtake)7) Lakes of Ponchartrain (Live 1989) Handy Dandy (Under the Red Sky Outtake)9) Roving Blade (Live 1992)10) Most of the Time (Oh Mercy Outtake)11) Unbelievable (Under the Red Sky Outtake)12) Jack-a-Roe (Live 1993)13) Sloppy Drunk (Bromberg Sessions)14) Golden Vanity (Live 1992)15) Born in Time (Under the Red Sky Outtake)16) What Was it You Wanted? (Live 1990)17) You Belong to Me (World Gone Wrong Sessions)http://ow.ly/4hoeM highly recommended!
― tylerw, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
oh man
just found Deeds of Mercy, gonna pull this one now, gonna be a great afternoon
btw the "Series of Dreams" at the end of Genuine Bootleg Series vol 2, live 1993, is insane; it ends in guitar apocalypse & ends way too soon too, Bob cutting it off but he musta known that things were on fire.
― Euler, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
and then he never played that song live ever again, haha.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
no way! but in a way I get it; where do you go from there?
― Euler, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
He's been like that with a lot of his "best songs ever"...
"Blind Willie McTell", "I'm Not There", etc...
― Mark G, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i think he only tried "Series of Dreams" out a couple of times onstage. "Blind Willie" has become something of a standard in the past decade or so, though, which is cool. Some great versions.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
There was that funny one where he rattled some "dylanish" lyrics in front of Bono, who was amazed/gobsmacked, and when Bob refused to continue, asked if he could use the lines, to which Bob also refused with a cringe...
― Mark G, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
(Something about listening to the Neville Brothers, if it's googleable)
got it:
"I was listening to the Neville Brothers, it was a quarter of eightI had an appointment with Destiny but I knew she would come late She tricked me, she addicted me, she turned me on my headNow I can’t sleep with these secrets, they leave me cold and alone in my bed"
― Mark G, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
dylan, always messing with bono. he should write an article for the New Yorker entitled: "Ways I Have Messed With Bono"http://www.atu2blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dylanbonoslane-300x199.jpg
― tylerw, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
love the version of "someday baby" on this so much
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
deeds of mercy boot VS ring them bells boot FITE
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 18 March 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
That lines in "Dreaming of You" on this record as well as "Standing in the Doorway" so it's a fine revive.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
lol sorry j
― marcos, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
the "High Water" on this smokes so hott
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
and actually
https://books.google.com/books?id=73eAjOofhCAC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=dylan+eat+when+i%27m+hungry,+drink+when+i%27m+dry&source=bl&ots=1ONdfpy3LU&sig=dZ0hN8xm0_JkgBbdUdpyK0NujSk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBWoVChMIrbv5psb-xgIVlg-SCh3waQJ6#v=onepage&q=dylan%20eat%20when%20i%27m%20hungry%2C%20drink%20when%20i%27m%20dry&f=false
dylan dylaning too
― j., Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
THROW YOUR PANTIES OVERBOARD
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
alrighty
― j., Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link