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That's all?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 March 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

that's jesse jackson jr - if he resumes moderating after this quick vote, it is worth watching. v entertaining! he is being kind of dramatic about it.

there was this laurel and hardy esque exchange in which a republican was granted fragments of time, fifteen and ten seconds, to ask a question, but either a disorderly house or the mid-sentence gavel bang meant it was cut short. the next ten minutes were rotating requests from members asking if the time had been properly accorded. hilarious to watch though!

we just have to get over it that's science (schlump), Sunday, 21 March 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"The Hill and Politico are reporting that a deal has been reached between the White House and anti-abortion Democrats led by Rep. Bart Stupak. From The Hill: "'We've changed [our votes],' said Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-Ohio).

Driehaus said he's seen the executive order and can now vote for the health care bill. He said Stupak has signed off, as well."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 21 March 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost - so basically, now they're just doing stuff to piss the gop off? i missed that, flipping betw fox and the maryland game (TERPS! COME ON, MAN)

To a significant extent, Ms Pelosi is viewed negatively because Americans think of her as a loser.

this is wrong, imo/e

max, Sunday, 21 March 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp-Please please please tell me the "language" of the "executive order" was "vote yes or my daughters will bury your nearly unrecognizable corpses in the rose garden with their pink plastic fisher price shovels."

Fetchboy, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

americans just h8 congress a lot is one thing

ice cr?m, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

out of my depth here but there's a suspicion of her as a dirty dealer on account of her pops, no? that and republican fear of non-submissive women in politics

we just have to get over it that's science (schlump), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

women in leadership roles seem to get a v disproportionate share of the hate.

the public speaks:

Rep. Steve King (R-IA) just appeared on the balcony above the protesters with a photo of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Evan McMorris-Santoro reports. The crowd booed as he pointed at photo, mugged a sad face, shook his head and gave a thumbs down.

we just have to get over it that's science (schlump), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

xp
women in leadership roles seem to get a v disproportionate share of the hate.

see all adjectives used in conjunction with hillary clinton

we just have to get over it that's science (schlump), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

...often from other women, unless the woman in a leadership role is a conservative politician. xpost

ned ragú (suzy), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

http://i39.tinypic.com/2cpw9c2.jpg

ice cr?m, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

White House Releases Text Of Executive Order On Abortion
4 MINUTES AGO
The White House just released the text of an executive order on abortion. Read it here. The order reaffirms that the health care bill upholds the Hyde Amendment. It does not make the Hyde Amendment permanent

ice cr?m, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Interesting choice of words.

ned ragú (suzy), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

guys we might need a new politics thread after this, it seems president brown hasn't been very effective

You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President Brown
When you mess with President Brown

requiem for crunk (kingfish), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

don't mess with president brown! massachusetts uber alles
― kicker conspiracy (n. kaeding ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:06 PM (2 months ago)

how wrong was i
;_;

Pelosi is well-loved in SF, and deservedly so. Because she is awesome.

famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

if i had to guess id say that dislike of pelosi is overstated but it mostly comes down to her being seen as a partisan figure, her being a strong progressive woman, and her generally being sort of robotically on-message when she makes public statements, which is a good thing for a speaker of the house but its not folksy enough to impress americans

max, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

She's a terrific Speaker who's not a good speaker.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

she isn't a good speaker, but you can feel how tough/determined she is when she speaks. i'm not sure if that endears people to, or repels people from, pelosi.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

right now i love pelosi. btw, TPM: "Do they have the votes? With agreement, Stupak tells reporters, 'We are well passed 216, yes'"

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Two to one sez everyone on the GOP side of the House would take her over Boehner any day of the week if she was so inclined. (This probably includes Boehner at this point.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Meanwhile K-Lo is a one-man army at The Corner.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Stupak [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

"We have an agreement ... to protect the sanctity of life ... "

Well, no, it doesn't.

This press conference is being held in a fog of delusion. The executive order is not binding.

I think we're witnessing Bart Stupak write the obit for the concept of the "pro-life Democrat."

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

apropos of nothing: john boehner looks like one of the duracell family.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.reelefx.com/images/webclips/duracell.jpg

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

J0hn was right on when he remarked that Boehner has the kind of face that haunts your dreams.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i kind of hate eric cantor more, tbh.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Boehner looks like a zombie, Cantor more like a smarmy a-hole.

Moodles, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

can someone parse/interpret this tweet from david frum:

if HCR prevails, Republicans need an accountability moment. Jim DeMint/ Rush / Beck etc. ed us to Waterloo all right . Ours.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Cantor said once that his wife and mom-in-law are hardcore liberal Democrats and that it helps keep him balanced or some such nonsense. Right now he's probably going home each night and breaking down in tears while the two of them are all 'Told ya.'

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, i get it. but it's amazingly out-of-step with what i've been hearing virtually all right-leaning commentators say lately.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't speak Village-ese.

xxpost

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

It's parseable. But not worth it.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

It's something about the thing and the deal and the whatsit.

I've exchanged e-mails with Frum a couple of times. Friendly guy but definitely Sisphyean.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), a leading voice in the tea party movement, said Sunday that protesters’ recent use of racial and homophobic slurs toward Members of Congress was no big deal.

“I just don’t think it’s anything,” King said, emphasizing that the incidents were isolated. “There are a lot of places in this country that I couldn’t walk through. I wouldn’t live to get to the other end of it.”

max, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Greenwald dropping (well, re-tweeting) truth bombs on Twitter: RT @markos RT @nicopitney: As @RyanGrim notes, with the Stupak crowd in hand, Pelosi would now have had enough votes for a public option

lol, max, Sadly No! summarizes Nerdlinger's post thusly: Shorter Jay Nordlinger, America’s Shittiest Website™
Racism Today

The fact that health care protestors called a black man “nigger” rather than lynching him is proof that our country is no longer racist.

Like a sausage or snake, smooth and soft (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

As @RyanGrim notes, with the Stupak crowd in hand, Pelosi would now have had enough votes for a public option

Eh, others would have changed, likely.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Also lol from the comments there: Eric Cuntor (R- John Boehner’s ass) is condemning the incident, presumably because he’s got enough of a survival instinct to know how people who scream “nigger” and “faggot” tend to feel about Jews.

Like a sausage or snake, smooth and soft (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

mr.speakeriaskunanimousconsenttoreviseandextendmyremarksinoppositiontothisFLAWEDhealthcarebill.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

enjoying the way rep. jackson (jessie jackson's son, yes?) is handling this process. totally efficient, no-nonsense.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

As @RyanGrim notes, with the Stupak crowd in hand, Pelosi would now have had enough votes for a public option

yeah this makes absolutely no sense at all, because youve got the votes for this bill then youve got the votes for any bill? pelosi should totally legalize weed too, shes got the votes

ice cr?m, Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

This is why I haven't gotten a Twitter account.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't want to fool people into thinking I've got votes for a public option.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

with the stupak crowd now in hand, pelosi has the votes for mandating abortion across the kingdom

max, Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

alfred have u been holding out on us, do u have the votes for a public option

ice cr?m, Sunday, 21 March 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link


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