Law and Order: Search and Destroy

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seriously my life is now complete

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:03 (twenty years ago) link

goodbye world

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

I wish it was a real connect-the-dots though! and it was of adam's face!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

That's my friend, Brandon!!!!

dean! (deangulberry), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

This was on Tuesday night's, Conan, also.

dean! (deangulberry), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

Also, if you guys want one of those coloring books (I have two, hands off) you should order them from Brandon ASAP. He was in LA this weekend and said he was going to stop printing them fairly soon...

dean! (deangulberry), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

the other night Dean Wareham played a bartender.

hstencil, Friday, 23 January 2004 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

In the new episode? He was the bartender who didn't remember the creepy guy in the bar?

NA (Nick A.), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

yep, that was him.

hstencil, Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

Dude. He looked tinier and less handsome than I imagined Dean Wareham to look.

NA (Nick A.), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

That wasn't a new epsiode, it was a rerun! And they also said "shit" on this episode, too.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:23 (twenty years ago) link

There's at least one L&O casting director working in NoHo, so my friend B figures Dean saw a flyer for the job in Other Music.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:24 (twenty years ago) link

John Doe, Dean Wareham, Lisa Lisa, what musician will they have next?

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago) link

Theo from the Lunachicks has been on it as an extra. (I'm *severely* addicted to all three L&Os.)

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:33 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Why I Hate Law & Order


It's really quite simple, it's all about the narrative. I want one. I want one with tension, unpredictable and curious, or I want to laugh at life's folly. I don't want fate's cold repetition.

The show certainly succeeds at something, but I'm not sure I like the terms it has set for itself under which it is successful. We're supposed to view each hour-long show as one story, from crime to courtroom, with an ensemble cast of heroic, if possibly flawed, police and lawyers all working together courageously, if perhaps imperfectly, to drive the plot towards it final destination of the punishment of social evil. Rather like any cop show since Hill Street Blues. Its conceit is its two sections, one of police work and one of prosecution.

In order to get to the second half-hour, in order to justify the show's two part structure, the cops have to capture a criminal. There is no drama in this, no chance that our heroes' flaws might hinder the easy and inevitable progression of suspect to indictment to trial. There is no chance that something missed in the previous weeks' episodes could lead to further tension. The police always get their man.

The second half-hour is only marginally better, with all the possibilities our legal system affords for putting up barriers in the path of justice. Will our steely-jawed protagonists with their flashing eyes and careful hair convince the common twelve, or will a theatrical and cunning defense attorney game the system and get the court to set the guilty free? Since guilt has largely been established in the first half of the show, the tension in the second half is not in the trial's assumption of innocence and proofs to the contrary. What tension there is lies in the working of the system itself, the tricks and games, the tics and bargains of a byzantine legal code and a capricious justice.

I am not impressed. Political or bureaucratic infighting can make fascinating drama if the characters are compelling, if the characters grow and change and what has come before affects what comes after. Stringing together two half-hours of foregone conclusions is not a recipe for continuing chacterization and any chance for drama is lost. After all, every television viewer knows that a half-hour show is supposed to be comedy.

Others are free to differ.

mariamaria, Friday, 5 March 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
anyone watching jerry orbach's LAST EPISODE??

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 May 2004 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link

That was one of the weaker cases I've seen on L&O. Would any DA go to court on "Well, she kind of knew the woman who might have killed her husband who also happened to have had her husband killed. No, we have no physical evidence to support this."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

the other night Dean Wareham played a bartender.
-- hstencil (hstenci...), January 23rd, 2004 9:07 AM.

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! which episode was this?!

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I miss Briscoe already.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link

for our down under Dean Wareham fans

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i missed it already :(

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

it's on reruns all the time, dude!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Urgh. I missed the last Orbach episode. I was at band practice and forgot to set the VCR. Any word on who's replacing him?

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

please tell me the show is not going to keep going.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean, i know there hasn't been a single original cast member since adam left, but dear god

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I think they should replace Orbach with one of Sam Waterson's eyebrows.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

dean wareham should join the cast full time! then he and ice should make a record together, it couldn't be any duller than the last handful of luna albums

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

The new dectective will be Dennis Farina.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

for real? He may steal the show...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

what-ever strongo, THE OLD COP IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE OLD COP

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 21 May 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I think they should just get another Barbie-type to fill Orbach's spot, like the current asst. DA. Let the show go down in a blaze of ignomious glory.

Joe (Joe), Friday, 21 May 2004 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link

get carmen electra.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 May 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i couldn't watch it last night, but since i'm sure it didn't involve briscoe saying 'you know what, fuck it' and putting a bullet in southerlyn's head, it couldn't have been that great.

haha xpost

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 21 May 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

just have her stand around the precinct holding a box of donuts.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 May 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"When you practice medicine, Mr. Stone, sometimes the patient dies."
"And when you're a lawyer, Dr. Auster, some of the people you prosecute are convicted."

Ben Stone for '04--he's tan, rested, and ready!! :)

Joe (Joe), Friday, 21 May 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i never even watch the new eps anymore. i live in reruns.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Last night's rerun was awesome! James Davis City Hall shooting, firehouse closings, PATRIOT ACT nefariousness, and water board corruption all in one episode!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I miss tokyo rosemary.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I saw that episode the first time it ran. I liked the whole switcheroo about who was actually the target of the shootings. What was the Patriot Act stuff? I don't remember.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

hi hstencil!

i watched the other two reruns but not the city hall shooting one last night.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

NA the FBI searched his home with a secret warrant.

Hi rosemary! I miss you, please come home, or at least IM me (hstencil23) sometime.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and then the cops couldn't get the key evidence from the FBI! That was dope. I didn't watch the reruns because I had seen them all already, instead I watched Freaks & Geeks on DVD.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

haha this show just gets more ridiculous as it goes. next week bigfoot will hold lt. van buren's kids hostage as the ghost of adam schiff must save them while a nazi accountant is brought up on war crimes charges by the emperor of siam

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

guest appearances by charo, fred gwynn, and john lydon

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

"straight from the headlines"

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

actually i would totally pay to see a jack mccoy johnny rotten throwdown

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

that'd surely be better than the Jack McCoy-John Doe throwdown.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, I didn't have your new AIM name!

Do you work downtown? Are you near William St? I maybe be going there sometime this month, we should do lunch! We could eat in the park in front of the courthouses and have a Law and Order moment.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I want to see Jack McCoy vs Peter Gallagher, the battle of the eyebrows.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

jack mccoy wins because he has the palsy chicken neck

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link


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