i agree, though, it's a fantastic album.
sorry nick, no idea what song it reminds you of.
― Pete W (peterw), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
"Murder in the Red Barn" was the title of a Victorian melodrama. Based on a true incident IIRC. Maybe even in Luton?
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― Soukesian, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Holy shit - the album totally made me think of LZIII, that track particularly, and I've been listening to them together. Maybe something about bluesy and folky dirges perverted by noise, improvising guitarists, and scratchy voices. (Not that straight blues voices aren't scratchy to start with or that trad songs can't be noisy or improvisatory.)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― tremendoid, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
This is the first Waits album I don't like. Well, I might grow to like it, I've only had it for a week, but uhhh... it just isn't very compelling to me at all. I've never had a problem with his whole I-do-the-same-thing-each-time schtick before but there just doesn't seem any need for this album to exist.
Also his voice is mixed way way too low.
At least he's not actively embarrassing like Nick Cave though.
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
But bloody hell, all the songs are EXACTLY THE SAME here and - I'm listening to it right now trying in vain to find a way in - oh my christ here's another spoken word exercise which there is no excuse for.
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris Rda, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link
B-b-but it's ALL his voice!
It is true that they didn't mix his vocal percussion like drums so it mixes with the melodic vocal parts and gets a bit muddy, but I don't mind it so much.
I still really like everything on it except the last track. Marc Ribot just shines.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Sins Of My Father, Hoist That Rag, Don't Go Into That Barn, How's It Going To End are all top notch though.
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link
the new Nick Cave album is great, though (I admit the last two were not). As for this Waits album: I can't get into it. I keep trying, but it slips by and nothing sticks in my memory.
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link
Come closer don't be shyStand beneath a rainy skyThe moon is over the riseThink of me as a train goes by
Clear the thistles and bramblesWhistle 'Didn't He Ramble'Now there's a bubble of meAnd it's floating in thee
Stand in the shade of meThings are now made of meThe weather vane will say...It smells like rain today
God took the stars and he tossed 'emCan't tell the birds from the blossomsYou'll never be free of meHe'll make a tree from me
Don't say good bye to meDescribe the sky to meAnd if the sky falls, mark my wordsWe'll catch mocking birds
Lay your head where my heart used to beHold the earth above meLay down in the green grassRemember when you loved me
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Revival time! And to do the job, useless Real Gone trivia. For some reason I plotted the stops of that 'flat boat' at the end of "Don't Go Into That Barn" into Google Maps and asked it for directions. So if anyone ever wants to make a ridiculously unneccessary road trip, here ya are. Or just rent a canoe.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Dover+Indiana&daddr=Covington+to:Louisville+to:Henderson+to:Smithland+to:Memphis+to:Vicksburg&hl=no&geocode=CUq2D7K0tNWfFa3GVgIdvszv-iFS580sMx6L4Q%3BFZdeVAIddoD2-imbJWzUq7BBiDGr4rDrV8nmLg%3BFZ62RwIdUWrj-ikR1VuzGgtpiDEy_XEgKLTT1A%3BFXpVQQIdg3vH-inB6Ektf99viDHjLDU873apmg%3BFQGyNgIdVBK7-imbw3-1IXJ6iDF_Kp0SPHMXdQ%3BFd5WGAIdLPah-ilFl0PqHn7VhzH-thpgFfOT0Q%3BFYap7QEdRlCV-im5EbH2J-AohjHAe08HaSpCdw&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=36.615528,-86.418457&sspn=8.708652,19.753418&ie=UTF8&ll=36.297418,-86.835937&spn=8.744308,19.753418&z=6
― the Dirt, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I wonder if I still have this. I thought maybe I made the mistake of buying Real Gone while I was feeling pretty burned out on Tom and that was why never got into it, though this thread's got me feeling I may have been right. I feel like I could start listening to the guy again, but I'm wondering if all I really need is like, The Black Rider, and Rain Dogs, and one or two others.
― retrovaporized nebulizer (â•“abies), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i really love this record but it would have benefited from being a lil shorter
― myndbloom, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
No, dig it out, this is a great one!
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link
It is! Love the stripped-down sound, that incredible guitar, and some of the lyrics are among Waits' best in my op: Just check out "How's it gonna end", "Make it rain" and "Day after tomorrow", which I'm sure has already been discussed to death.
― the Dirt, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
One of his most rockin' albums IMHO. The call-and-response section of "Don't go into that barn" always raises the hair on the back of my neck.
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Great album, not a bad track on it.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Probably his most solid since Rain Dogs actually.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Loved it when it first came out-have not listened to it lately
― Pinto Basin, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
This is one of those albums that I liked when it came out but I didn't love it. Took it out the other night and for some reason it hit home and now I would rate it one of his best.
― Jim, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
this album rules. Ribot's guitar solo in Hoist that Rag kills me every time.
― black lightning light (herb albert), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link
New live album is tons of fun, even if it is a heavily bootlegged date.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Is the new album one show or a comp from different places? I have the NPR show from Atlanta that got bootlegged so I haven't bothered to check the official disc out.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 November 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
One show, the Atlanta one, I believe. With a second disc of banter!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 November 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
That's cool - thought it was a comp from different places with a typical show's setlist. Actually, it can't be the NPR show as the Atlanta concert is over two hours long! Must be from somewhere else.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 November 2009 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
new live one super cheap at amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Glitter-Doom-Live-Tom-Waits/dp/tracks/B002QJX33O/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1
― tylerw, Saturday, 14 November 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Amazing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUhWuPTBIfo&feature=related
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link
he is *great*, isn't he? sometimes when I think about his schtick, it seems a little tired, but then I hear/see something like that and am amazed all over again.
― tylerw, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Why are his albums so long?
My only real problem with them. By the time I get to track #16, I've forgotten what the first 5 songs sound like.
But yeah, I like this one.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 13 October 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
You'll like his new one then, it's a tidy 45 mins. And it's great!
― Simon H., Thursday, 20 October 2011 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
from the pitchfork interview:
My wife Kathleen wanted to do 12 three-minute songs. Get in, get out. No fucking around. Because people don't have a lot of time. The way I think is more like, "Oh, you got time for 19 songs on there? Put 19 songs on there, baby." She says," No, no, no. Twelve." Like the eggs, 12. You can do a lot in two minutes. So I'm starting to get more economical as I go. Don't overstate, don't restate.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Thursday, 20 October 2011 06:03 (twelve years ago) link
Dug the new one as well, having only heard it once. A nice condensation of his schtick - and I mean that in the best possible way.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Thirded. Like it on first listen, which isn't always the case with his albums.
― Matt M., Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
The newly remixed version of Real Gone is, believe it or not, worth everyone's time. Everything that dragged this album down (beat-boxing, slightly harsh production) has been toned down and a few subtle tweaks here and there make for a much better listen
― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
Abrasive production is why I like it tbh but interested to hear this
― kolakube (Ross), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
Hoist that Rag was perfect tho
― Gukbe, Monday, 1 January 2018 01:27 (six years ago) link
oh wow this sounds WAY different from the original mix, way more of an overhaul than I was expecting
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:59 (six years ago) link
xp I definitely prefer the new version of HTR with the trumpet intro, just lifts it a bit
― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Thursday, 4 January 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
I'd have liked some deep, subtle horns added to 'How's It Going To End'. Have to say, other than HTR, the rest of the changes are a lot more subtle. Or what else am I missing? It's been a little while since I listened to the original.
― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Thursday, 4 January 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link