russell brand - C or D?

well the answer to this is clearly yes

yew wot?

Do they audition Newsnight Review? Candace Bushnell seemed to have trouble stringing a coherent sentence together last week.

I remember Momus saying something about being asked to come on NR and he would have had to turn up and do an audition in front of camera. He never took it any further though.

As for Thompson, he's clearly so far up the Mail's arse that he could be their prop forward next season.

So I predict a menu of cautious, bland, tiptoeing radio.

Nobody will listen to it but then nobody will be offended either.

The Mail have moved on...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081966/Even-Russell-Brand-row-raged-BBC-comedians-insulting-Queen.html

xpost well, i'll manage the unusual trick of not listening and being constantly offended by the continued existence of the BBC in its current form ;)

i'm not clicking fucking daily mail links, btw. as someone sagely pointed out upthread: these page impressions matter to the cunts.

Surprised no one's thought about reissuing Noosha Fox's 1977 single "Georgina Bailey" yet.

And as someone said upthread you only have to read the url to get the gist.

xp

is every producer meant to be able to extrapolate out the outcome of every show solely in terms of how much it will annoy the daily mail?

but you can also say "is every comedian (or whatever passes as a comedian these days) meant to be able to extrapolate out the outcome of every tasteless gag solely in terms of how much it will annoy the daily mail?"

It's disgusting the way the Daily Mail has allowed that joke to be aired.

Just so their readers can go "ha ha ha SHAME!!!"

zomg xposts re: that daily mail link

That being the joke from Mock The Week that Emily Maitlis quoted in her interview with Mark Thomson on Newsnight last night. Well done The Mail!

grimly, i mean YES - EVERYONE from mark thompson on down has said "this was an open and shut case - it oversteps the mark by miles - there's not even a discussion as far as we're concerned" .. which most people agree with. if that's the case, why did the producer OK it, and the compliance people ditto??

ken you could say that but it's not the comedians' job to think that way - it's the producer's job and the compliance people's job

i think everyone should share a bit of blame

i'll take some of it

as long as the bbc suspends me with pay

The Emily Maitlis interview where she'd been blatantly briefed to appear extra tough because she was interviewing the Boss.

bbc on bbc action.

you should resign tracer

has anyone actually been sacked?

Ramos

harry redknapp's film 2008

I may be old. But I pay my licence fee.

I will be at the Cenotaph again this year. Will these treacherous insulting comedians be there?

People who insult the Queen should be sent to the tower.

- RAJ, Pontefract, 31/10/2008 07:58

truthbomb

i was stunned to hear that last night, Bob - i thought for a second that the audio had been hijacked - here's thompson giving an answer, the camera is close on him and maitlis not even in the shot. as he's talking, responding to a question about where you draw the line in questions of taste, maitlis says, interrupting - off-camera, mind - and this is how she BEGAN her sentence "I'm so old my pussy is haunted" and only THEN added "those were words to describe the monarch!"

i about lost my shit

What did Mollie Sugden have to say on the matter?

weird - the iPlayer version of this is totally different to how it played out on Newsnight last night

I'm sure some Maitlis fans found it stimulating, whilst being morally outraged of course.

Did Thompson find Maitlis being all bossy stimulating?

did the queen's pu.. censored

Looking forward to Barton's column next week: "I elucidated the elusive amber of Russell Brand's pongy pranny while listening to some shitey Americana in a skip in Chingford" etc.

Somebody just had to explain to me what 'p****' was supposed to mean. I am too innocent for the Daily Mail.

same here! i couldn't figure it out until i saw tracer's quote

Hand, your taking the blame and being suspeded - so droll!!!

Oh, I saw that Mock the Week section (is that what this is about?) and thought it was dreadful.

I agree that some people will be stimulated by Maitlis.

*suspended*

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1872820.ece

Ally Ross... OTM?

yes yes lock thread ffs

grimly, i mean YES - EVERYONE from mark thompson on down has said "this was an open and shut case - it oversteps the mark by miles - there's not even a discussion as far as we're concerned" .. which most people agree with. if that's the case, why did the producer OK it, and the compliance people ditto??

see, there's the rub: i'm not sure i do agree with that, and i'd argue that the general tone on this thread suggests i'm not the only one. yes, it was a tasteless and unfunny prank: but that in itself isn't really anything new in comedy. yes, it was small-minded, laddish and gleeful -- but that's the hallmark of an awful lot of comedy these days. and yes, it was actively hurtful towards a specific individual (or individuals) ... but, umm ... plenty of precedents for that kind of thing too, m'lud. exhibit A: heat magazine, and its legion of imitators. exhibit B: why, look, a tabloid newspaper of your choice! oh, the irony.

all of which leads me to feel that this isn't some horrific OMG-how-could-they? lapse of judgment on behalf of the producer and the dude(s?) who OKd it for transmission, but that within the context of so much of the celebrity-baiting, mildly spiteful comedy/entertainment that exists right now, it might not have looked like that big a deal. it's a final straw, if you like, rather than a fucking great big log (ooer, etc) that came out of nowhere.

basically: a whole heap of people here are complicit, and i don't think it's too much to take a step back, look at the, umm, quality of so much comedy broadcasting in the past couple of years, and say: this was always gonna happen some day, wasn't it? which leads me back to the point i made earlier: if this absurd affair does lead to less personality-based dickwittery and more PROPER FUNNEEZ, it might not all be in vain.

also: "it's not the comedian's job to think that way": why not? you get paid a huge sack of cash; you get to do whatever the fuck you want, without comeback, and blame some other poor backroom bods when it goes wrong? "you can't blame me for breaking into your house and stealing all your stuff; it's your window locks that are at fault?" hmm.

I agree with the last two paragraphs !!

a whole heap of people here

er, "here" as misplaced rhetorical device; not "here" as in ILX. probably.

I agree with the last two paragraphs

which intrigues me, because you'll stand up for the BBC; me, i see it as massively to blame for allowing lowest-common-denominator jism to pass for light entertainment.

my god, i really have become a caricature grumpy old man. if only i could retire and spend my days swearing and drinking haufs-and-haufs in the corner of a shite boozer.

plenty of precedents for that kind of thing too, m'lud. exhibit A: heat magazine, and its legion of imitators. exhibit B: why, look, a tabloid newspaper of your choice!

anyone in a position to be called a "producer" at radio 2 ought to know there's a difference in expectations between bbc radio and heat magazine - i will dig up a job description if you're interested in the explicit fine print that points this out

there's a difference in expectations between bbc radio and heat magazine - i will dig up a job description if you're interested in the explicit fine print that points this out

really? because listening to chris moyles/george lamb/sara cox/annie mac/"grimmy" (no relation) and various others suggests that it's a difference so fine as to be imperceptible to the listener.

i mean, i quite accept that BBC producers are there, in theory, to UPHOLD BBC VALUES. all i'm saying is that ... well, it feels to me, as a mere listener, like those values have changed enormously, and therefore i don't think it's appropriate to pick on individual producers for maybe lacking the judgment to make a very, very fine distinction between what's appropriate and what's not.

(also: is brand's producer a BBC employee, or someone from brand's production company?)

when did heat magazine ever prank-call a kindly old pensioner?? when did the sun? i mean, there's not even any contest here. it's more like zoo/nuts territory. i never listen to moyles, maybe he prank-calls kindly old pensioners all the time.

DEAR GOD WHY AM I STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS

Brands producer is from the external production company.

when did heat magazine ever prank-call a kindly old pensioner??

They gave away a sticker making fun of a disabled kid.

the disabled kid wasn't a well-loved comedy actor, which explains that

Gave away a sticker making fun of a disabled kid, or gave away a sticker making fun of a kid who's disabled? There is a big difference.

Ally Ross: "Ponderland (Renamed Ponderlife)"

Very good, son, you should consider becoming a comedian.

Oh for the good old days of common decency comedy on the BBC, such as racist caricatures of Spanish waiters who are routinely shouted at, insulted, beaten up and generally humiliated.

Surprised no one's thought about reissuing Noosha Fox's 1977 single "Georgina Bailey" yet.

― Do they mean us? They surely do! It's Ray Conniff! (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 31 October 2008 11:05 (2 hours ago)

Marcello, I am the only person on ILX in the UK to get that reference. I'm surprised that no-one's interviewed Noosha yet, because they've interviewed just about anyone else with even the slightest connection to this whole mess.