russell brand - C or D?

a whole heap of people here

er, "here" as misplaced rhetorical device; not "here" as in ILX. probably.

I agree with the last two paragraphs

which intrigues me, because you'll stand up for the BBC; me, i see it as massively to blame for allowing lowest-common-denominator jism to pass for light entertainment.

my god, i really have become a caricature grumpy old man. if only i could retire and spend my days swearing and drinking haufs-and-haufs in the corner of a shite boozer.

plenty of precedents for that kind of thing too, m'lud. exhibit A: heat magazine, and its legion of imitators. exhibit B: why, look, a tabloid newspaper of your choice!

anyone in a position to be called a "producer" at radio 2 ought to know there's a difference in expectations between bbc radio and heat magazine - i will dig up a job description if you're interested in the explicit fine print that points this out

there's a difference in expectations between bbc radio and heat magazine - i will dig up a job description if you're interested in the explicit fine print that points this out

really? because listening to chris moyles/george lamb/sara cox/annie mac/"grimmy" (no relation) and various others suggests that it's a difference so fine as to be imperceptible to the listener.

i mean, i quite accept that BBC producers are there, in theory, to UPHOLD BBC VALUES. all i'm saying is that ... well, it feels to me, as a mere listener, like those values have changed enormously, and therefore i don't think it's appropriate to pick on individual producers for maybe lacking the judgment to make a very, very fine distinction between what's appropriate and what's not.

(also: is brand's producer a BBC employee, or someone from brand's production company?)

when did heat magazine ever prank-call a kindly old pensioner?? when did the sun? i mean, there's not even any contest here. it's more like zoo/nuts territory. i never listen to moyles, maybe he prank-calls kindly old pensioners all the time.

DEAR GOD WHY AM I STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS

Brands producer is from the external production company.

when did heat magazine ever prank-call a kindly old pensioner??

They gave away a sticker making fun of a disabled kid.

the disabled kid wasn't a well-loved comedy actor, which explains that

Gave away a sticker making fun of a disabled kid, or gave away a sticker making fun of a kid who's disabled? There is a big difference.

Ally Ross: "Ponderland (Renamed Ponderlife)"

Very good, son, you should consider becoming a comedian.

Oh for the good old days of common decency comedy on the BBC, such as racist caricatures of Spanish waiters who are routinely shouted at, insulted, beaten up and generally humiliated.

Surprised no one's thought about reissuing Noosha Fox's 1977 single "Georgina Bailey" yet.

― Do they mean us? They surely do! It's Ray Conniff! (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 31 October 2008 11:05 (2 hours ago)

Marcello, I am the only person on ILX in the UK to get that reference. I'm surprised that no-one's interviewed Noosha yet, because they've interviewed just about anyone else with even the slightest connection to this whole mess.

i don't wnat to talk about this thing anymore really but am interested to see the job descriptions if poss!

thanks

Me also...xpost

Gave away a sticker making fun of a disabled kid, or gave away a sticker making fun of a kid who's disabled? There is a big difference.

yes there is. and the answer is, the sticker made fun of an aspect of harvey's disability, ie. his weight problem. had the fact he's overweight been nothing to do with his illness, they would probably have got away with it (despite the obviously hateful notion of it being ok for a massive-circulation magazine to take the piss out of a helpless pre-teen whose mum happens to be famous).

It occurs to me that had a Radio Two producer actually considered pulling the recorded show, they would have met with bewilderment, possibly laughed at, and been made to put it straight back on the schedule because both Ross and Brand were paid huge amounts of cash and there was nothing to put in its place.

As the Allinson and Lester substitutions have proved.

Lesley Douglas is one of the very few people to come out with credit from this whole mess in terms of taking the rap rather than seeing the programme's production team fired.

(xpost) They could have replaced it with this:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/art_ross_brand_ap.jpg

Brand looks like kin of So Not Gonna Happen 3.

how come sachs hadnt heard the answerfone message himself by the time the daily mail came calling? i'm sure this has been answered already.

The Mail on Sunday contacted Sachs' agent first.

but it had been broadcast by then hadnt it? and so hadnt days passed for him to hear the message? or did the mail hear it before it was brodacast?

AS I understand it a producer called Sachs on his mobile and played a recording of it to him before he heard it on his answerphone. He said there was a lot of noise as he was outside and he couldn't hear it properly but agreed with the producer that it shouldn't be aired and that he would do an interview on the following week's show.

He didn't listen to the show as he wasn't supposed to be on it and therefore didn't know it had been aired.

I'm still totally confused about why the 25-year-old producer of the Brand programme still has his job.

Or had his job in the first place? I suppose that depended on what public school he was at in the first place.

Presumably the producer worked for Russell Brand's production company i.e. Russell Brand was their boss or summat?

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/10/28/vicars-son-at-heart-of-brand-row/

Not a council estate boy from a comprehensive, I am surprised

"As producer of Brand’s slot, he is thought to earn around £25,000 a year."

BBC spending the big bucks to hire the best talent, i see

That's quite high for the BBC.

per hour i'd say it's pretty great

Loose change for Jonathan Ross

I presume The Sun paid for this tasteful video as it's much better quality than the ones on their myspace page which I have definitely not seen.

how come sachs hadnt heard the answerfone message himself by the time the daily mail came calling?

That's what I've been wondering. The Mail on Sunday article came eight days after the programme was broadcast.
And Sachs was scheduled to give a phone interview on the show, about his appearance on The Bill. It wasn't a prank call, as such.

Well, that's why he didn't hear the message! He wasn't in!

Out cavorting with some satanic sluts no doubt

^ suspended for 3 months

The Daily Star has unearthed some Lesbian schoolgirl porn featuring herself.

How do they manage to put their hand on this stuff so swiftly, I wonders?

Googling her name?

The Daily Star has unearthed some Lesbian schoolgirl porn featuring herself.

Have you gone all Irish all of a sudden?

I'll be after asking a question...

i hear georgina baillie's going to be suspended for a week

from her nipples

or did someone already make that joke

milk it in while you can

I wonder what Have I Got News For You will be like tonight. Hislop very smug, I guess.

(sorry if already mused upon)

Lol @ The Fiver today:

JOKES AT EXPENSE OF OLD MAN = GUARANTEED POPULIST FUN

You absolutely cannot go wrong making cheap and tasteless jokes at the
expense of pensioners - millions enjoy them, they're what makes
Britain great - which probably explains why Madrid-based clown Ramon
Calderon yesterday decided to curry favour by humourously accusing
ageing football manager Sir Alex Ferguson of being "senile"

Hislop very smug, I guess.

Yep, that's Ian, I guess also.

this (nsfw) is the girl from the story? She isn't that volutuous, I don't think.

Also, holy shit, bdsm + nazi insignia, there's a fresh combination. (Nb I am booorrreeeedd)

volutuomas

what about the have-a-go pensioner who foiled a robbery today? He's a good old fellow