goodfellas

(I love heat too)

I would really like someone to point me towards any of these films where that ISN'T the case. I mean any story about mobsters spanning multiple decades is going to be shit at the end, there is nothing climactic about watching some wiseguy get old, lose his edge and get thrown in the clink / murdered by his own stooges / enter the witness protection program. This is why Scarface is the best one, it goes out on a high note, you don't have to sit through a bunch of Tony and Manolo's midlife anecdotes or a succession of pointless relationships with mousy gold-digging bitches.

I think I see what Nick is saying about Goodfellas, and that goes for a lot of other similar movies with me as well. At the end of the day it's still a story about an asshole and his asshole friends, I mean Ray Liotta as Henry Hill has to be one of the least compelling characters I've ever seen, the fucking rat should get beaten to death.

DeNiro and Pacino are great because they can play these asshole characters and make them incredibly compelling, Pesci less so but still about a thousand times better than Ray fucking Liotta. I guess since Henry Hill is himself a pathetic excuse for a human being it's appropriate to cast the most uncharismatic man this side of the Baldwin brothers to play him but that does not make it any more enjoyable. Then again if you are watching Goodfellas for Ray Liotta you need your head examined.

What I've learned from this thread: Gangster movies need more 80s music. Did you know Brian DePalma directed the video for "Dancing In The Dark?"

That's all you took from the film? You're a bozo.

"Goodfellas" is a great film, as I've said, but it's just yet another mob movie. Do we really need more of those?

Also Heat is a Michael Mann film, why are we talking about Heat at all, briefly?

xpost or lots of blood and drugs, see also Scarface!

uh goodfellas?

goodfellas was made 15 years ago!

Really though what does everybody think of The Untouchables?

Untouchables, like Scarface, is good when I'm getting DePalma-ized rather than Mamet-ized or Stone-ized. There's a LOT more Stone in Scarface than there is Mamet in Untouchables, so I prefer Untouchables.

These two comments contradict themselves.

So I said how much I liked GoodFellas, pointing out different scenes and ways of ediiting and direction. You said that you don't like it because you're supposed to like it and you hate how frat boys don't do Joe Pesci impressions right, and it's too loooong. No offense, Nick, but you're not making much of an argument here.

And yes, I took more from After Hours than him being covered in paint at the end. It still featured Griffin Dunne and Tommy Chong in it, still had a basic "guy-gets-into-wild-wacky-situations" plot, and still had plain obvious metaphors like guys chasing twenty-dollar bills around and getting into trouble because of it. It's not the worst movie in the world, but Alex is the first person I've ever met who had such a hard-on for this movie. You're right, maybe if I was PP in NYC, I'd dig it more, but for me now, I can see why GoodFellas gets the DVD box treatment and After Hours is only played at eight in the morning on Cinemax.