The Death of the Musical Holy Grail?

Hey I found a musical holy grail thanks to Dan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5iOIa4EZuQ

I just transpose holy grail status onto even more obscure stuff - outtakes, particular live versions, etc. Or occasionally bands that are ungoogleable, like can. I do try not to, though I guess by temperament there's a tendency, no matter how long the tail, to want to go just beyond the tip of it.

I take my hat off to whoever's looking for that Jonathan Lethem/Barrett Rude comp though - getting obsessive about an arbitrary list of songs is some next-level stuff.

re sleeve: see email (for Tymon Dogg recordings).

the thrill of finding a clean hard copy of whatever will never die

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/o/oasis/album-whatever.jpg

yay, lost my grail

The Tee Vees - fatman crossing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRur_AgfHyg

Also, for the record, Omnivore is reissuing all the Game Theory albums now!

my main holy grail right now is not particularly rare and would not be as expensive as some other (especially Brazilian) items on my wants list IF there were a copy for sale. won't tell you which one but it's a Biosphere LP. I do have it on CD and some day someone will sell their vinyl copy.

some older holy grails successfully acquired include: Sass - "Much Too Much" 12", Tim Maia - Tim Maia (the mostly english language one that starts with "With No One Else Around"), Trace Of Smoke - "Treasure Mind" and 9th Creation - Love Crime EP.

some guy e-mailed me about a list of 50 stoner rock albums i did in Db magazine and he's trying to find every one of them and it has taken him years because he's trying to find them all in stores and then he asked me if i would want to take part in a documentary about the list. i didn't respond to that. i did thank him for reading my article though. and i do understand the impulse. it's fun to have a quest.

there are definitely things i wish i had, but sometimes i just like thinking about them. i remember hearing concrete blonde's "still in hollywood" on the local college radio station and then i saw the video for the song on MTV and i LOVED it so much and i ran out and bought their debut album and i loved the album a ton and played it over and over. then i went to go see them in NYC at i think the beacon theatre. i was really drunk and i got on stage with two other people because johnette said they needed help with the chorus of my favorite song except i was so drunk i sang all the words along with her! my friends said she looked over at me and laughed and kinda couldn't believe it. my face would have been red if i hadn't been so drunk. (i wrote her a letter after this and told her i was the drunk guy on stage in new york and i thanked her for the album and i asked her what she was reading and she wrote me back and thanked me and said oh god YES she remembered me at that show and she said she was reading fathers and sons by turgenev.) before the show someone was DJing up in the balcony and all of a sudden i recognized the song they were playing. it was one of my favorite let's active songs, "blue line"! except it wasn't let's active! i yelled up at the DJ - because i was drunk - and said WHO IS DOING THIS SONG???? he couldn't hear me so he beckoned me up to the balcony. i went up there and it was jack rabid. he had boxes and boxes of cool 45s. i'd never seen so many cool 45s. i raved about them and he couldn't believe that i liked so much of the stuff he liked. then he told me who did the original version of "blue line". and i promptly forgot what he told me. for the record, jack rabid is a HUGE game theory fan. (ilx's yeti mike made me buy a game theory album once because he was always raving about them in his chemical imbalance magazine and i listened to it once or twice but it wasn't my kind of thing...) anyway, i always wanted that original "blue line" single but i never tried to find it in a store or later online. i listened to it on youtube a couple of times when youtube came around. i guess i was always hoping it would come to me via magic. but mostly i just like remembering the time that jack rabid spun it in that club in new york. it was such a surprise!

Jack Rabid was the ultimate representative of something

but that's a good story (or two)

This is a big one of mine. Not the song, but the music video, which was on the first block of videos I saw when we got MTV along with No One Is To Blame by Howard Jones, Locked In by Judas Priest, and Let's Go All the Way by Sly Fox. I taped the whole thing on audio cassette, but probably recorded over it a few years later.

Anyway, the video's been missing from the searchable internet until today. There has been another version but it SUCKS because it doesn't have John Ritter in it! Someone on a Graham Nash facebook fan group pointed me in the right direction today, so I uploaded it to youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwQORT1T6k

cool, glad you found it

the idea of not having "grails", to me that runs contrary to my understanding of how the world works. at base level there are things that, as far as anyone knows, simply do not exist anymore but which people really wished they did - occasionally one of these turns up but most of them don't. from that point there are varying levels of accessibility until you get to, i don't know, baby shark. even then, i can imagine decades on somebody saying "gee, i wish i knew what this 'baby shark' video everybody was crazy about in 2018 looked like".

re: upthread ~ I did find an LP copy of Biosphere - Cirque one month after I posted.

there are a handful of fave boogie 12”s that are particularly hard to find. at least one of them stats lists as “never sold” on discogs, but I know where to get a bootleg. won’t have the full sound though... eh, I’ll probably spring for it anyway

what are your favorite rare boogie 12"s? i've been getting into boogie lately

After thelategreat changed my life a few years ago (I still owe you something for that, man!), the idea of a "holy grail" in terms of music recordings has become even more nebulous to me.

It's possible that my favorite album ever made is still unheard by me and I just don't know about it yet.

rushomancy ~ here are some examples of what I spin/rate:

Idiater Edwards - Loving Sweet Devotion
Jagg - Take Time
Stinger J - Pretty Face
Brenda Hilliard - Give Me All Of Your Love
Jeanie Tracy - Can I Come Over And Play With You Tonight

some of these have been reissued or bootlegged

discogs (especially people's lists), rym (ditto) and youtube are my main sources for learning about boogie & italo-boogie, but I also rate the websites:
http://www.danceclassics.net and Greg Wilson's http://www.electrofunkroots.co.uk

awesome, thanks for the recommendations - i already know (and love) "take time", so i have no doubt your other recommendations are great as well! this massive comp called "boogie times - the great collectors" looks promising...

that Boogie Times series is great - there are at least 18 volumes. so far I've been turned on to around 40 tracks from those comps: some directly, some elsewhere. boogie collecting (on vinyl) is ridiculously expensive now. many reissues/bootlegs just don't cut it (though the Jagg and Idiater ones are strong) - the magic is usually in the original pressings.

Idiater Edwards - Loving Sweet Devotion

this is a jam

buncha stuff on oska tapes, a few japanese things i may never hear or encounter online. old enough to be resigned to that & feel no unquenchable thirst.
Mr Spock: "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but is often true.”

I suppose my holy grail would be the Lilys 'Send in the Subs' CD-R, I can barely get a decent quality rip of it never mind an actual hard copy.

Oska!!! <3 fond memories there. I have the Mellow Fuzz tape if that happens to be one of them, at least I think I still have it

das ist fisch more than anything else!

I knew, in 1994, that the day would come when I would regret not ordering more of the Oska catalog from Jon

that day is today

*Jod

Just ordered one of my Holy Grails from Discogs.

The Bad Brains' second album, Rock For Light, is their greatest achievement on record, to my ear. I think it's even better than the "yellow tape." It was only in print on CD for a couple of years in 1986/7 on the tiny PVC label in the US and on the Line label in Germany. It was reissued by Caroline in 1991, but it was re-sequenced and sped up, so the songs were faster but HR's vocals were chipmunky and embarrassing. I've been trying to get a copy of either the PVC or the Line CD with the original mix for years, but have never had the money when one popped up.

Well, I just bought a very rare 2CD set from Line (again, I didn't even know this edition existed until about a week ago) that has the original mix of Rock For Light on Disc 1 and I Against I on Disc 2. $55 and worth every penny as far as I'm concerned.

v cool—if only there was some kind of "fix" for I Against I