it's ilx's periodic purgative
― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
try scott seward today--available at your local chemist!
― Mr. Que, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
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― scott seward, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
image bombers should be banned
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
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― scott seward, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
why is it that artificial/social constructs have such a negative connotation w/in the context of sociology? lines like "gender is a social construct" and "race is a social construct" get trotted out as evidence that gender and race relations are deeply fucked and deeply out of step with the natural order of things. but if our society ever manages to completely redefine gender and race roles so that they have nothing to do with oppression and privilege, won't these new roles be just as artificial and just as constructed as they once were?it seems like a lot of feminists and anti-racists (including me, a lot of the time) maintain that if only humanity were freed from those pesky rules of social conduct, it would naturally veer toward egalitarianism ...which is a pretty shaky position to hold, seeing as no one has the slightest idea what a "natural," pre-social human condition would look like. it's far safer, imo, to assume that race and gender relations will always be 99% socially constructed no matter how oppressive or enlightened they may become.― broa super (unregistered), Friday, April 2, 2010 12:32 AM (16 hours ago
it seems like a lot of feminists and anti-racists (including me, a lot of the time) maintain that if only humanity were freed from those pesky rules of social conduct, it would naturally veer toward egalitarianism ...which is a pretty shaky position to hold, seeing as no one has the slightest idea what a "natural," pre-social human condition would look like. it's far safer, imo, to assume that race and gender relations will always be 99% socially constructed no matter how oppressive or enlightened they may become.
― broa super (unregistered), Friday, April 2, 2010 12:32 AM (16 hours ago
i don't really think ppl say any of that. I mean i think its impossible to say what the natural order of things really is because it is impossible to just step outside of society/culture or scientifically remove its influence and see what's left. I think what I mean at least is that the society that we have built out of these constituent parts has consistently engendered inequality, racism, domination, you know a lot of bad shit. Instead of casting off the oppression of gender roles i think whats called for is a recasting of those roles in a way that is more conducive to equality/egalitarianism etc. In this way its helpful to understand gender constructs as being constructs because it does not fall back on nature to give legitimacy to patriarchy/racism/homophobia etc.
― plax (ico), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
in summary: http://www.testosteroneformula.com/assets/images/testarol_header.jpg
― iatee, Friday, 2 April 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
plax, you are killing it here and it is awesome.
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Friday, 2 April 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
seconded, yeah. saying "social construct" isn't a criticism of something being unnatural -- it's more like opening a window. once you recognize that something is constructed, then you have the option of trying to re-construct it in a way that's fairer or less hurtful or offers people more freedom.
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
(i.e., instead of going "but that's just the way it is and you can't expect us not to do/believe these things!")
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
whoa how did we get this far in the thread without discussing the idea that some men are afflicted with "hypergonadism"?
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
oh medicine, your power to amuse will never cease
that was totally my bad, I was going to bring that up but got sidetracked into being serious due to being totally infuriated by unironic embracing of a pretty disgusting and totally mutable status quo
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/lOT7Z.gif
― goole, Friday, 2 April 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
totally^^^^^
― Mr. Que, Friday, 2 April 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link