NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

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does his hybrid lincoln continental have a blu ray machine is what i want to know

tylerw, Friday, 31 October 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

The archives box will be a bit too much for me, really. But does this mean that his back catalogue will finally get remastered afterwards too?

I mean, I can manage without what he has done for the past 35 years or so, but up to and including "Harvest", everything he did was great, whether it was alone, with CSNY or with Buffalo Springfield.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 1 November 2008 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I got to check out all the archives stuff last night while we were at the studio, what do people want to know

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Studio now has a "this parking space reserved for biofueled vehicles ONLY" parking sign lolz

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

well for one is it really coming out? and on cd or just some bullshit blueray thing?

does it have the full "Bluebird"?

how much unheard stuff is there from the Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere sessions?

Euler, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

i would like a six-disc boxset of alternate studio versions of cowgirl in the sand please

69, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

yes it is really coming out. it will be on Blu-Ray. Seems like most of the hold up is related to all the fancy Blu-Ray programming required (I didn't press too hard on when things would be done or why they were late since that would've been pretty rude). I talked to the tech who's working on it and he ran through a bunch of the menus and extras on the discs - apparently one of the issues that took a bunch of time was how to make it so that you could be playing music from the disc while going through the menus (apparently this is not currently possible on most Blu-Rays?) The menus and graphics are INSANE - all these ridiculously high-res memorabilia photos and tour manifests and handwritten lyrics and stuff like that. I saw 9 discs in all being prepared, saw the sleeve mockups, etc. There was a disc devoted to Journey Through the Past, two discs titled Topanga Canyon (one 1969, the other 1970), the Massey Hall stuff, some Buffalo Springfield stuff. I can't remember all of it.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno how much unreleased stuff will be on it. Guy played me a great Buffalo Springfield song that I didn't recognize but I dunno if it was unreleased. There are boxes and boxes of tapes so I wasn't sure what was gonna get used or not (I expressed a particular interest in the box labelled "Human Highway" but the guy just laughed)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Wanna hear the Mr Soul demo.

Trip Maker, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

hm! i thought there wouldn't be a bunch of springfield stuff on it, since most of it came out on the box set a few years back. but i guess there is all kindsa multimedia crap. were there everybody knows this is nowhere outtakes?

tylerw, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

That Springfield thing was one of the worst box sets ever assembled.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Friday, 21 November 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

the fourth disk of the Springfield box was indeed bullshit but the first three disks have many treats well-worth digging through, esp. Neil's demos, "Kahuna Sunset", "Buffalo Stomp". I could do without most of Stills' "Latin" excursions though.

Euler, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

also re. Blueray FUCK YOU NEIL

Euler, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Poor Stills!

QuantumNoise, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, what's the matter with the BS box set? a lot of good stuff on the first three discs ... and it's not on blueray ... still bummed about that. am i really going to have to get the music illegally? buying a blue ray just ain't happening at the moment ...

tylerw, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

No long version of "Bluebird" (the one from the 1973 2LP comp) and one of the ugliest most-unreadable book designs ever.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Friday, 21 November 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I think there are Everybody Knows This is Nowhere outtakes. I have no idea if this will be released on CD as well as Blu-Ray - given how the stuff that's already been released has gone out on CD I would think there would be but I don't really know. They seem to be spending a lot of time making this the be-all end-all of high quality Blu-Ray product though. Kinda ridiculous.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

but i guess there is all kindsa multimedia crap

ooh hi-res photos of the BS guys reading Teen Magazine!

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, yeah that layout is really bad, isn't it? i've got a boot called "the missing herd" that collects most of the stuff that wasn't included on the BS box set. still, there's so much good stuff on it! those acoustic demos of stuff like "out of my mind"!

tylerw, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah "There Goes My Babe" is such a hot opener.

Euler, Friday, 21 November 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't express how disappointed I'll be if this thing only comes out in Blu-Ray. I'd like, you know, OPTIONS for when and where I listen to this stuff - not just sitting in my living room in front of the entertainment center.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 22 November 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/24385831/neil_young_opens_up_the_vaults_with_crazy_horse_disc_box_set/4
sounds like it'll "eventually" come out on CD and on itunes ... which is good.

tylerw, Saturday, 22 November 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link

and i am really excited about the sugar mountain 1968 concert -- that's really the first of these archive performance releases that's never been bootlegged. and this shelved 2000 crazy horse album too! go ahead, release it all, dude!

tylerw, Saturday, 22 November 2008 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

you can listen to the entire Sugar Mountain show on NPR
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97253221

mizzell, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, listening now ... sounds great. neil is kind of chatty cathy on this one. lots of interesting versions of springfield songs and stuff from the first solo record.

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

does he really come up with winterlong out of the blue like that on stage?

mizzell, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

ha, i could be wrong, but I think that maybe "Winterlong" is even older than that ... like one of his earliest songs? would be impressive though if that was just an off the cuff riff ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Archives Vol. 1 : not January 27th. What a surprise.

Instead: new album, Toast

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/12/04/neil-young-therell-never-be-another-crazy-horse/

StanM, Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link

"It’s old, so it doesn’t really matter when it comes out." heh heh. This Sugar Mountain live disc is great, anyway. And TOAST sounds interesting! When is he going to put out a Tonight's The Night era concert, for god's sake?

tylerw, Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

It was recorded in the same place where Coltrane was recorded, so there’s a lot of heavy stuff in there.

"Toast" was recorded in Rudy van Gelder's studio? Or is Neil sitting on a long-delayed Trane tribute album?

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

"It’s old, so it doesn’t really matter when it comes out." heh heh. This Sugar Mountain live disc is great, anyway. And TOAST sounds interesting! When is he going to put out a Tonight's The Night era concert, for god's sake?

You know what would be a surreal release? A double/triple LP from the Tonight's the Night tour of England, featuring both the opening act (Eagles) and Young. I can only dream.

QuantumNoise, Sunday, 7 December 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

at least Neil's saying it will come out on CD, if it comes out before the end of time (necessary caveat since it's Neil)

Euler, Sunday, 7 December 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

here's the info on TOAST -- not sure what Coltrane would've recorded in San Fran, but who knows?
In 2000, Crazy Horse was in San Francisco, south of Market street, at an old studio called "Toast." Coltrane had recorded there, among many other jazz greats, known and unknown. The Dot Com boom was happening and buildings were being bought and turned into lofts or torn down completely and rebuilt. New money was everywhere. Toast was a target. The place was a little run down and sort of on its last legs.
To a man, if you asked Crazy Horse about these sessions, you would learn that it was a depressing atmosphere and things were not going well. The band recorded there for months and came up with very little. Nothing, other than one song, "Goin' Home" was ever finished. But a lot was started. Several of the songs written at Toast showed up on the "Are You Passionate" album with Booker T. and the MGs. But that album met with mixed reaction.
Now, years later, John Hanlon, the original co-producer with Neil, is at work mixing all of the Toast material. Many songs share a bluesy, jazz-tinged vibe as a common thread. Three solid rockers are interspersed in the mix. Other songs are long with extensive explorations between verses, a Crazy Horse trademark, kind of like a down-played Tonight's the Night, except these songs deal directly with love and loss, not drugs. The ambient atmosphere, foggy, blue and desolate, pervades many of the tracks, if not all, with Tommy Brea's muted trumpet and dusky male and female counter-part BGs occasionally surfacing from Poncho and Ralph on one side, Nancy Hall and Pegi Young on the other. A cool and sleepy lounge piano rises in the fog occasionally.
The result of this is perhaps one of the most under-estimated and deceptive Crazy Horse records of all time, with many songs originally discarded, and then re-recorded with Booker T. and the MGs. The original performances now surface again through a foggy past. Like an abstract painting, lyrical images of a love lost and maybe even destroyed forever just refuse to die, creating a landscape littered with half-broken dreams and promises.
"Toast" is coming, a dark Crazy Horse classic for the ages. This first NYA "Special Edition" is the beginning of a new series of unreleased albums.

tylerw, Monday, 8 December 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

will be cool to see what comes out of the "Special Edition" NYA things ... "Homegrown" finally? "Chrome Dreams"? The second unreleased Trans-style album?

tylerw, Monday, 8 December 2008 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i have a bootleg of what's supposedly the original chrome dreams. it's pretty awesome.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 8 December 2008 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, you can get the best version here: http://qualityboots.blogspot.com/2008/05/neil-young-chrome-dreams-rust.html
maybe better than american stars n bars (which came out in its place ...)
but it is kind of cool that neil is putting out an unreleased record that no one's even heard of, much less bootlegged. I kind of don't think it's going to be as rad as the description above suggests, but it sounds fun anyway.

tylerw, Monday, 8 December 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

really loving this Sugar Mtn. release -- definitely a wonderful snapshot of Neil Young before he really became NEIL YOUNG. Will be interesting to see if he continues releasing these "Performance Series" discs. Seems like each one is corresponding to an album
Sugar Mountain = Self Titled
Fillmore 1970 = Everybody Knows ...
Massey Hall = After the Gold Rush
Would be great if he expanded Time Fades Away to go along with Harvest, and yeah, put out a live Tonight's the Night show. And of course, for ZUMA, put out one of those Japanese shows. Those are incredible.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I wanted it to have a mode where you didn’t have to watch it, where you could just listen to it, and there’d be like a screen saver thing up there.

^^^^what did I fucking tell you

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Vr8sVjHZL._SS420_.jpg

StanM, Friday, 12 December 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Only $323.99 at Amazon!

tylerw, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Looking at this picture makes me wish there was some sort of equivalent Neu! boxset.

Z S, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Jeez, that thing costs more than the actual Blu-Ray player I'd need to buy to listen to it.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah this is ridiculous. But so is Neil.

Euler, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

ok i don't usually use my job to get freebies that we won't probably cover but i may make an exception

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Run Time: 1200 minutes

schlump, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it possible to buy the rack in the background?

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

As near as I can tell, TOAST was recorded at what was once "Coast Recorders" in SF, apparently changed to "Toast" sometime down the line.


Date: 22 September 1965.

Place: ‘Coast Recorders’, San Francisco CA.

Ensemble: John Coltrane Quartet: John Coltrane soprano sax, tenor sax, McCoy Tyner piano, Jimmy Garrison bass, Elvin Jones drums,

Recording:

Recording Engineer:

Alternative Issues:

Recent Available Issue: John Coltrane Quartet, Coltrane The Classic Quartet - Complete Impulse Studio Recordings, Impulse! IMPD8-280, Disc 7;Impulse!, A9225, for this item.

1. Joy (12:10)

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 12 December 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://neilyoungarchives.warnerbrosrecords.com/

tylerw, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

but also http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jan/16/neil-young-fork-in-the-road

tylerw, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link


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