'Jackie Brown' is a great fucking movie.

"I'm being a bit of a smartass here, but in a fun way"

Off topic, maybe, but I'd LOVE to see a Tarantino adaptation of Swag, set in '70s Detroit before every liquor store had a surveillance camera. The city could use the money, and T could use another good coffee break of a movie, which that book is even truer to than Rum Punch. And maybe he could improve the ending--as he did with Rum Punch. Jackie Brown's not a great movie for me because it just doesn't feel like it's really happening most of the time--I thought Forster and Grier were "pretty good," but every scene with Samuel L. Jackson crackles.

I love the cool dive bars Jackie, Odell, and Louis hang out at.

Sam Jackson's best performance? Part of why he's so pissed off is that all the people he genuinely likes (Louis, Jackie, Max) fuck him over.

no still a boring superfly minstrel bit

does Ordell genuinely like any of those three? I definitely don't think he likes Max, Louis to him is a shell of his former friend ... Jackie, maybe, but idk. It's a great character - obviously psychopaths have to be charming but I don't think they're often made to be this personable.

Maybe--certainly tied with Jungle Fever and Pulp Fiction. Slight disagreement on your formulation of Odell's anger. Jackie, yes, but I wouldn't say Louis fucks him over, not intentionally--Louis just screws up, and Odell kills him out of exasperation with his stupidity--and I'm not sure he likes Max, either. He's wry and sarcastic the first time in Max's office ("Oh, it's like that, is it?"), and when he's sitting in the car looking evil and hateful while Johnny Cash plays, some of that hate's reserved for Max.

ah, this thread. good times.

nah, Morbs: minstrels aren't this three dimensional and don't boast Jackson's hair.

To me it's clear he respects Max's sangfroid and hidden layers ("I didn't know you liked the Delfonics"), and it's clearer in their last exchange in the car before walking into Max's office. Ordell's scared but when he gives Max a last chance to explain himself it sounds like he genuinely wants to believe this guy wouldn't fuck him over.

i'd put it behind jungle fever but a hair ahead of pulp fiction. it's a shame jackson has generally spent most of his post-breakthrough career to hackwork, though i guess i can understand if you have to wait until twenty years into yr career for that breakthrough (as late as 1990 he's still doing glorified extra roles like 'taxi dispatcher' and 'black guy') that as soon as the opportunity comes you might go right for the paychecks. is 1997 the last year he could be said to have given a damn w/ jackie brown and eve's bayou? he's given some fun performances since obv (this year even) but nothing exceptional or worthy.

c/ping this from the other tarantino thread because otm:

Like it a lot. Esp. QT's sneaky commentarty on De Niro's career:
Sam Jackson sitting in car with De Niro: "Mannn, you used to be beautiful." Shoots him.

Jackie Brown's obsession with the black suit was pretty ace too.

― Omar, Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:00 PM (11 years ago) Bookmark

de niro is so great in this film

i love his outfits

Better every time and QT's best movie by a million fuckin miles

if you just watched this we were in sync

a thing i appreciates this time was forster's sweeping thanks-i-found-my-bag gesture to the store clerk; he puts all the excitement he's concealing into it

i didn't hear you wash your hands

I think much more highly of Reservoir Dogs than number none, but I'd agree it's his best. I'll never understand why he abandoned the (not quite sure how to phrase this, but...) unadorned seriousness of the Grier-Forster relationship and went back, apparently permanently, to a kind of show-offy flash he'd already exhausted.

great fucking movie...or... fucking great movie? you decide

There is some fucking, but--as Bridget Fonda's character will attest to--it's very perfunctory.

i like slj's delusions of grandeur in this: he acts like a kingpin but his big macguffin is only half a mil and all of his henchmen are women whose rent he pays (and dumb stoned deniro). the money's just as transformative for him as it is for jackie/max. he can get a place even better than that lil beach house w the tiny tv.

great fucking movie...or... fucking great movie? you decide

Three minutes later...

michael keaton's mounting exasperation in this scene is such a little masterpiece of comic timing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_ip79SGVLo

Jackie's euphoric expression when she puffs on first post-jail cig

keaton's shitbird costume in that movie is so perfect

The most poignant part of the movie is realizing in their last scenes that Ordell genuinely likes Max or at least respects him and is thus devastated that he might be pulling a fast one.

had no idea Michael Bowen (who played the lapd detective in this) was uncle jack in breaking bad.

Yeah, that dude is a total chameleon.

No other Val dude can touch him.

favorite part is near the end, when Jackie's sitting at Max's desk, rehearsing how to relax and then suddenly pull the gun out of the drawer.

"That hit the spot"

i like it when jackie says "boo ya"

"Why don’t you be a good hostess and hook a brother up a screwdriver?"

Odell tapping his fingernails on his screwdriver, trying to interest jackie.

The stoned concentration Louis puts into untangling the telephone cord

Bridget Fonda. Rowrrrr.

Pam Grier - what a beauty! Who knows what to watch earlier in her career?

her "Cosby Show" appearance.

Foxy Brown

Coffy

had totally forgotten she's in Something Wicked This Way Comes

i thought the revive was for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnaI-w8h8Ls

sweet! even tho there are a lot of leonard movies im always surprised there arent more cause his books just demand to be adapted

that one looks good

its fun to see how everyone always tries to adapt his vibe into a visual

The sweetest part of this movie is realizing Ordell seems to genuinely like Max, thus is disappointed that he'd fuck him over.

the movie is about people whom Ordell likes (Max, Jackie, Melanie) fucking him over

does he like beaumont

shit yeah he would've had Bojangles with him

or Popeyes -- I forget

lol

Nothing in "Modern Film" annoys me more than QT's refusal to direct someone else's story again (yeah it's been said before, bt still)