At age four, Joe and his brother caught a butterfly, and both were fascinated by the vibrant colors and overall peacefulness of the creature.[2] They kept the butterfly in a jar overnight, and intended to free it the following morning. When they awoke, the brothers found the butterfly had died, and felt as if they had committed a murder. The brothers made a vow that "one day, [they] will make it to heaven, so that [they] can [...] apologize to that Butterfly face-to-face."[2] On every Insane Clown Posse album and EP it reads "Dedicated to the Butterfly" because of this vow.
― fuckin' rainbows! (latebloomer), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
^for example
― Lift Your Skinny Jeans Like Antennas to Heaven (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
whiney not everyone on the Internet is tapped into the Juggalo Zetigeist the way you are
― Mr. Que, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
like i consider myself fairly informed on new music, and i knew about juggalos, and but i like didn't *know* about them. i just found out six months ago that the clowns are really into Faygo.
― Mr. Que, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the longevity and scale of the Juggalo thing is what really makes it mind-boggling and fascinating
― fuckin' rainbows! (latebloomer), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf is a "hipster meme"
also ur conveniently forgetting Gathering Of The Juggalos 2009 Infomercial
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
NO NO NO NO NO not the juggalos or whatever but the Instant Composers Orchestra led (though there may have been some dispute over that, not sure) by Misha Mengelberg.― Josh, Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmarkahaha didn't even notice this― goole, Wednesday, April 7, 2010 8:37 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― Josh, Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark
ahaha didn't even notice this
― goole, Wednesday, April 7, 2010 8:37 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
always lol @ this whenever I see it in used bins:
http://betterpropaganda.com/images/artwork/In_The_Fishtank-Sonic_Youth_+_I.C.P._+_The_Ex_480.jpg
― original bgm, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
ilx has always had a thing for juggalos whiney
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
are they really "everywhere" these days? seems like they're at the same fringe level of exposure they've always been. first time I remember coming across them was in some two-page spread comic strip in Spin in the 90s iirc
― modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
The answer, Whiney, is because most people actually haven't seen a Juggalo before. Most people just heard about the Disney controversy and tuned in for The Great Milenko which was kind of okayish and The Amazing Jeckel Brothers which was eye-bleedingly terrible, went "lol talent-free fatties" and went back to whatever they had been listening to at the time. Internet forensics and the trend to pour back over things ten to fifteen years old to laugh at them combined with the bizarre longevity (driven largely by the positive message underneath all the nonsense IMO; a shit-ton of CCM folx could learn a valuable lesson here) and the impossible-to-ignore visuals are causing the current Juggalo craze. It's not really rocket science.
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
And yes, ILX has been talking about ICP since before you started posting here.
hi dere,
if you are ever in MN and want to see a juggalo, i recommend the columbia heights/hilltop area
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Interesting...
― trained to identify threads and then kill or destroy them (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Juggalos in the top secret eschelons of American arms developement.
driven largely by the positive message underneath all the nonsense IMO; a shit-ton of CCM folx could learn a valuable lesson here
Been wondering about this more lately. Are ICP embraced at all by the CCM universe? From my completely removed perspective, the biggest failing of said universe seems to be the relentless candy-coating of everything; for all that ICP's lyrical insanities are no less melodramatic they at least kick against the stereotype, however unfair, of CCM as nothing but lovey-dovey nonsense.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I will honestly say that if ICP is embraced by CCM, I will eat a hat.
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i'd wager that the entire MN contingent has known about juggaloes since time immemorial---that fuggin crazy axe-man sticker has been haunting the rear windows of chevy s-10s longer than calvin.
xp ha m@tt
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
declining inner-ring suburbs in the upper midwest are the juggalo's natural habitat
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp: The vulgarity basically takes them directly out of the acceptability zone (and conversely, is exactly what makes them accessible to the disenchanted people they're reaching).
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Also big here in the Southeast too. I work at a mall and see a Juggalo or two on average about every other day.
― fuckin' rainbows! (latebloomer), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
it was totally the gathering infomercial that kind of got people talking anew. i think for a lot of people ICP is thought of as a weird '90s blip and being reminded that they're not only still around but still command a big following is a crazy wake up call.
― my heart will goon (some dude), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I only rarely see Juggalos here in MD, but I went to Denver last year and just walking around downtown, it was all like "Juggalo, juggalo, candyraver, juggalo."
― trained to identify threads and then kill or destroy them (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
will admit that I was into ICP back when the great milenko came out
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
The most amazing thing about the Juggalo movement IMO is how people point and laugh at it, but whenever you read accounts of people actually spending time with these people they're all along the lines of "holy hell, I have never actually spent time amongst a more upbeat, friendly and helpful group of people in my entire life". Like, ICP is actually making folks into better people through ridiculous clown makeup and terrible music.
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I will honestly say that if ICP is embraced by CCM, I will eat a hatchery-bred salmon
thought I'd make it a little easier on you there.
― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
declining inner-ring suburbs in the upper midwest are the juggalo's natural habitat― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, April 9, 2010 11:31 AM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, April 9, 2010 11:31 AM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark
TRUTH BOMB
i think this might be the animus behind the "sudden" emergence of juggaloes on the hipster radar---coastal dwellers have no idea what lurks behind the strip malls of the n woods.
(hint: a rusty oldsmobile with an aftermarket stereo and a hemp necklace hanging from the rearview mirror)
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Juggalos need a Darkon-type docu imo. I kind of wanted to start LARPing after watching that film. The camaraderie!
― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean whats so hard to understand about a youtube video, icp or not, going viral in 2009-2010? why does it have be some paranoid "hipster"/"you're one of them" schemes
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
also HI DERE OTM--- most of the clowny dudes i encountered in high school were kinda dorky guys that were, in general, really nice and welcoming, esp if you wanted to smoke a doober and kill a suitcase of beer somewhere outside and sunny
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
get paint balls shot at yer truck, blaow
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
amon ?
i've seen posts on other (non-music) boards where ppl are like who ARE these guys?
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
whenever you read accounts of people actually spending time with these people they're all along the lines of "holy hell, I have never actually spent time amongst a more upbeat, friendly and helpful group of people in my entire life".
my last two juggalo interactions were with a young guy with ICP tattoos who was part of duo that was going to fix up my family's cruddy old wurlitzer organ to donate to a church. The other was an elderly bartender wearing an oversized ICP shirt, who seemed nice enough.
― da croupier, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
gbx ?
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
never seen a Juggalo personally btw. we don't get this shit in the Bay Area
― modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost does he live in rural central PA? still not sure if the bartender was a bonafide juggalo or just some old guy wearing a shirt he found.
― da croupier, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
the juggalo who took our Wurlitzer also got excited when he saw we were throwing out some old air conditioner parts, as he had some "projects" with pals where they might come in handy. I choose to believe they're building some kind of hovercraft like the kind you'd see kits for in the back of Boys' Life.
― da croupier, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Also ICP does a lot of weirdo subversion of their own schtick, like they have a lot of rampant anti-intellectualism running through their stuff sitting right next to "oh btw my ass got straight As when I did my schoolwork"; they're setting up this paradigm of book learning not being particularly important so it's okay if you're not good at it, but it's also okay if you ARE good at it because hey, they were too. It's pretty much full-on "where you came from doesn't matter, it's where you're headed" big ten semi-gospel-style preaching all up in this bitch.
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
― modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, April 9, 2010 4:39 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark
it's because your pelicans are goddamn snobs and thieves
― fuckin' rainbows! (latebloomer), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I went to Denver last year and just walking around downtown, it was all like "Juggalo, juggalo, candyraver, juggaloyeah this is weirdly true -- ride the bus anywhere in Denver and a Juggalo will get on at some point. It is written. actually saw some juggalos (in full facepaint) walking around my neighborhood recently. i felt scared, but also excited. who were they? where were they going? do they know how fukken magnets work?
― tylerw, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
basically whiney is not down with the clown
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
and yeah the ICP are creationists; they're way into jesus! thought everyone knew that
i did not!!
― Wishes he picked a cooler name. Fat. (will), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
still not sure if 2 dope is saying the pelican ran away or if he's laughing that violent j ran away from the hungry pelican
― da croupier, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm guessing the latter
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 2 of 2 for "without icp there would be no eminem". (0.28 seconds)
― a modest crowd, not jammed (Eazy), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
are they the heralds of a new age of enlightenment
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
truer statement is "without icp there would be no kid rock"
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
magic everywhere in this bitch, indeed.
― da croupier, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71C9QZRDY5L._SS500_.gif
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
someone shop the "sticker" to say "Magnets: How do they fuckin' work?"
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, April 9, 2010 4:45 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
nah kid rock's first shit came out before ICP, that grits sandwich one
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link