Sarah Silverman: Funny or not? Hot or not?

Ali G?!

Anyhoo, I hate this line of reasoning, which we've talked about on here before. It's as if there is nothing you can't say, from more well-meaning satire to straight-out racist shit, that you can't retreat from just by saying "Oh, it was just a joke! Get a sense of humor whydoncha!"

I crushed out on SS majorly when she was on Saturday Night Live -- 1993? 1994? Funny.

Okay but on another tip here: what the hell, is Mike Kinsley having an affair with Silverman, or something? Last week there were like three separate Silverman articles on Slate, and one of them kept getting bounced up the sidebar, and then today I log on and her face is like blasting out from the center pane: is she paying them?

I sincerely doubt she deserves the Lenny Bruce comparisons, as she's not been arrested for her craft.

OTM, she has also totally failed in being a heroin addict and a dude.

Not the point, but you knew that or you're fucktards.

Well, yeah, but that's her THING. She's jaded to the point of naivety, she sits on a cushioned of caricatured privilege and when it rains she tells us she's pissing on our heads.

So?

Bullshit.

But...

Fine, then you can't knock Adam Carolla for being annoying either (or anyone else), in case you wanted to.

Ooh, great comparison. Her being annoying is a completely valid reason to dislike her act whereas disliking someone because they're fat is a little 'fattist.'

Do you seriously believe you have a watertight argument here? Give me a break. Just because you bought into her act doesn't mean your interpretation or opinion is right. It's more likely that she's just a bitchy elitist stoner who gets away with things by saying them "funny."

Yes, I have listened to Lenny Bruce. I think some of his bits were funny, and many more just sound dumb. I personally think he is over-deified by today's hipsters; many of his bits were just, y'know, jokes. (I also think Bill Hicks is overrated, and mostly for the same reasons.) But I agree that he was often 'transgressive' for his time.

However, as you well know, Bruce operated in a different milieu than we do now. It would take a lot more -- a direct threat against the president, eating a fetus onstage, etc. -- for Sarah Silverman or any comedian to get arrested for his or her "craft." And yes, that would be transgressive all right, but also stupid, boring, and unfunny.

This is what I was attempting to get at in my previous post, and I think you know that. Sorry I didn't spell it all out. Thanks for calling me a fucktard.

Love,

Matt

DAN WHERE ARE YOU

Judy Tenuda was annoying, too. I guess that means she "won".

Uh oh, is this turning into another ILX meta discussion?

>Fatty Arbuckle's girth was his #1 comedic device<

Hmmmm... if so, he knew how to use it. Otherwise Chris Farley would've been as funny as Arbuckle.

Ah, Sourpuss does short and long sarcasm.

i do. I 'm just asking her that.

b) the word "hot" used to describe someone's attractiveness is decidedly non-hot, keep up people

I agree with this.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I think it's kind of um...maybe not "hot" strictly speaking...it connotes fragility (which is kind of fucked up, really) and I think it's an enjoyable contrast to her otherwise indelicate schtick. Am looking forward to her bit on The Aristos.