I HATE APPLE

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Spaces really is about 1/3 of a piece of software.

libcrypt, Friday, 15 February 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

spaces is mostly rad except for the way it loses dialog boxes behind other apps

^@^, Friday, 15 February 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Features I wish Spaces had:
1. On-screen pager, preferably a pop-down from the menubar
2. Space-assignable background images
3. Keystrokes for moving windows between spaces without assigning them to that space
4. Space-sensitive dock and desktop (i.e., only the apps and icons on a current space would be present)

Bugs I wish Spaces didn't have:
1. Horrible window-order handling
2. Inappropriate auto space-switching
3. Incorrect popup handling

That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm seriously thinking of upgrading my old Virtual Desktops license when it's 10.5-compatible.

libcrypt, Friday, 15 February 2008 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I've had some problems with disappearing windows (ichat) with spaces that i could resolve by "focusing" them from the window menu and then hiding&unhiding the app. ICK.

xpost libcrypt soooo otm <3

4. Space-sensitive dock and desktop (i.e., only the apps and icons on a current space would be present)

I'm going to disagree on this but request that the dot under an app reflect if it is on the current space

3. Keystrokes for moving windows between spaces without assigning them to that space

one handy trick is that grabbing a title bar and then changing space with a hot-key works.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 15 February 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

TODAY ILX TAUGHT ME THAT NONE OF YOU ARE WHITE PEOPLE

KANTLIPS, Friday, 15 February 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

one handy trick is that grabbing a title bar and then changing space with a hot-key works.

Yes, but this is a bit of a slow-down for me. First, I have to move hands to mouse, then engage a bit of draggable window. My space-changing hotkeys are apple-option-arrows/numbers, which are easier to apply with 2 hands. So the whole thing winds up being a Dr-Spock-nerve-pinch of a maneuver.

libcrypt, Friday, 15 February 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

It's maddening to have to switch from Mac to Windows+Firefox with its side-scroll, crappy find, and lack of (apple)scriptability after becoming used to the far superior two-finger scroll, Safari find, and my reload-all-tabs-at-once applescript. I plan to keep this BS back-switching to an absolute minimum.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoa the shuffle is so cheap now! I may grab one for working out

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

'working out'

As if!

Bob Six, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I still have the 1g 1 gig shuffle and I use it every single day. I much prefer carrying around a little stick with no screen or moving parts in my pocket and clicking through songs untill I hear one I feel like listening to. Though I have to say I think I'd prefer this shape (the chewing gum) to the new smaller ones. This one fits in my hand in my pocket so well and I can just plug it into the computers at work to recharge.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

10.5.2 finally fixed the maddening MacBook loses WiFi connection bug that has been driving me up the wall for almost a year. At least so far it has...

Fixed it for me too...The having to reset the wifi connection was really annoying

Not just a MacBook problem, btw. (I notice 10.5.2 has reverted my mini's Broadcom Wireless Card's firmware version from 4.170.25.10 to 4.170.25.8. Surely there was more to the WiFi bug than that, though?)

M.V., Tuesday, 19 February 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2008021122525348

^ nice

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/02/21/ifreemem-2-0-when-you-just-dont-feel-like-rebooting/

Ok, so here's some more computing Voodoo akin to "running fix permissions"

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Spaces is fucking driving me nuts today. Even a simple double-F8 can reorder windows, it seems. And MS Office seems to have a REAL goddamned issue with palettes and spaces: There was one Excel window yesterday that, when I clicked on it, forced spaces to jump to a space with the format palette.

libcrypt, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm a long-time user of iFreeMem. On my MacBook Pro with 3 GB of RAM, it can generally clear up about 800 MB (sometimes more) after I quit a long session in apps like Photoshop and Motion. And it's rescued me on numerous occasions where I've found myself with three or four MB free and everything starts slowing to a crawl. I just loaded version 2 and it's faster and more efficient than ever. Good stuff.

lol this is mad retarded

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm glad we're finally approaching some real Windows levels of utter bullshit. he says that right after a paragraph that begins "As good as OS X memory management may be..." KEEP CHUGGIN THAT KOOLAID BRO

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

after I quit a long session in apps like Photoshop and Motion
after I quit a long session in apps like Photoshop and Motion
after I quit a long session in apps like Photoshop and Motion
after I quit a long session in apps like Photoshop and Motion
after I quit a long session in apps like Photoshop and Motion

libcrypt, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

and it's faster and more efficient than ever.
YEh, users says this even when they get a new version that's demonstrably slower.

stet, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

IFreeMem clears Inactive memory to help your applications avoid the performance hit you get when running low on Free memory.

Clears inactive memory, eh? How's that? By allocating a metric shitload and releasing it? Nice, real nice.

libcrypt, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001388.html

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I called Apple and spoke with a couple of their reps. ... The reps were incredulous about the existence of malware specifically targeting Macs. They looked up articles about it while we were on the phone — they wouldn't believe me until they looked it up for themselves.

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

like, dnschanger has been out since fucking halloween.

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

computing is turning into the automotive industry. consumers get what they think they want, which is generally horrible, inefficient shit, and before long somebody will have to go and write a book which will be made into a documentary asking "who killed useful software?"

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

/ IT Morbius

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

just installed leopard. first impression: butt ugly.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe it's optimized for a glossy screen? (j/k)

i'm trying hard to figure out how to turn down the opacity on the 2d dock.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

deleting bottom1.png - bottom5.png didn't work.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

oh actually it did. it turned off the rounded corners.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Run software update, install 10.5.2 and you'll have an option in system preferences to make the menu bar solid.

Ed, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

still hangin tough with tiger, my goal is to keep this computer alive long enough to skip leopard completely

Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm talking about the DOCK, not the menu bar

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

tracer how do you know that 10.6 COUGAR won't be worse than leopard?

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

btw i have 10.5.2 and the "translucent menu bar" checkbox doesn't show up in my system preferences. weird, right?

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

if it is even worse then i will downgrade to OS9 in silent protest

Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

TOM THEY ADDED TABS IN TERMINAL APP SO I DONT NEED TO USE DODGY SHAREWARE FUCK YOU

btw i have 10.5.2 and the "translucent menu bar" checkbox doesn't show up in my system preferences. weird, right?

-- moonship journey to baja, Monday, March 10, 2008 2:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

under DESKTOP at the bottom

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Looks pretty solid to me! (Ask Tuaw?)

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2324975082_11e5d5bdcc.jpg

here's my ugly dock

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

There is no (EnvironmentVariables) default for the (/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.WindowServer) domain.

^ bizarre

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

isn't there a 3rd party prefpane to set env vars?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i gave up on the menu bar. people are saying it has something to do with old graphics cards? who knows.

reset the dock also. trying to figure out whether left dock or right dock is a better choice.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link

If yr card isn't up to the translucent menu bar, you get the solid one anyway (and the pref doesn't appear).

stet, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

But, aye, Leopard is uggggly

stet, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i should correct: the bar IS solid, the drop-down menus are translucent, which is also annoying. now mail won't do notes.

damn, shit is uggggly and buggggy

OTOH it does seem to run much quicker than usual.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

i only did this because all of the omnigroup stuff is slowly going to leopard-only and i use their products slavishly. and i guess also to ease the eventual transition into leopard.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to be against auto-hide for some reason, but now it's right-side dock, hidden, all the way.

I haven't really run into that many bugs and it looks fine to me, haters. I can hate Apple for completely different reasons, though.

mh, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

guys if you really want to fuckin' geek th' fuck out on screen graphics -- like me, I mean -- apple is the wrong OS. GTK basically uses stylesheets with a splash of python, and it's hella customizable, and Murrine is like the next gen of that with all kinds of fun alpha transparency and glassiness. It's all good times for people who like to make things pretty.

kenan, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i need a full, viable OS

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link

There's all sorts of graphics pipeline problems with Linux/X/GTK that make it a dog.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

kenan, that is why I used the enlightenment window manager (speedy and customizable!) and hung out on their irc channel for a couple years, before I realized that my time would be better spent elsewhere. Most GTK themes are pretty fugly, and this Murine thing doesn't seem to be that much prettier off the shelf, although I am sure with my complete lack of graphic design skill I could make some amazing themes.

mh, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link


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