― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 14 December 2002 19:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Sunday, 15 December 2002 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 December 2002 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
yes, no, maybe so -- and that's an important part of what makes them good.
I'll take even midly evocotive nonsense over almost anything too pat and linear.
― Aaron A., Sunday, 15 December 2002 22:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 December 2002 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 06:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
Please....I don't know where these allegations come from, but Killing Joke are **NOT** Aryan white supremacists. Maybe they're not the nicest guys in the world, but they're not racist rabble-rousers. You're thinking of Skrewdriver.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 16:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
The only possible reason I can think of off hand is a rather unfortunate photo shoot for one of the weekly music papers around the time "Revelations" came out, which involved the paraphernalia from certain freemasonry rituals....
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 16:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://music.dartmouth.edu/~dupras/kj/d.gallery/d.band/d.lrg/KJ.NME.1982.lrg.jpg
Maybe I don't know enough about Freemasonry, but I gathered it had more to do with the occult than with Aryanism/white supremacy.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 20:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
Honour The Set Square And Compass.... and those nice little little aprons!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 21:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
With the weather like it is at the moment - I'm busy honouring the fire.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 January 2003 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Friday, 10 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
Editor place acronym for LAUGHING OUT LOUD here.
― Paula G., Friday, 10 January 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
Paula G., meanwhile, has done nothing of the sort, and continues to spout whistle-headed nonsense (not least accusing the Joke of being Goths), so PISS OFF!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 January 2003 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 10 January 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Uncle Jaz (vassifer), Friday, 10 January 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 January 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
ooooooh stop me
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 11 January 2003 04:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 11 January 2003 06:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 11 January 2003 07:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― paulc, Monday, 13 January 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
I just got Psychopharmacology though, Alex. I love it.
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 13 January 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
Killing Joke wise, I'm not going to get all winded about it. Seek out the first album......
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc300/c309/c309332s0t8.jpg
....and if that doesn't grab ya, don't bother pursuing it further.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 January 2003 22:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
If I'd only heard the version _without_ he rap I'd probably have liked it.
I've heard the rap. Aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
And what Alex said about the first album, even though I prefer the second one myself.
― mei (mei), Monday, 13 January 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
KILLING JOKE ACTUALLY MENTIONED IN THE N.M.E!!!!!
http://www.nme.com/news/103951.htm
Whoohoo!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 January 2003 18:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh, Saturday, 8 March 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 8 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
Tom chirped: "And is it just me or are they not anywhere near as heavy-sounding as they're made out to be." I dare say that without Killing Joke, most of your precious "heavy sounding" bands wouldn't even exist. Killing Joke have indulged in a myriad of different musical styles and sounds well beyond the monochromatic "heavy," yet when they choose to go that route, there is no one mightier. To judge Killing Joke by one or two tracks is an excercise in blind-sighted stupidity. Do your homework before submitting an opinion! Moreover, if you're put off by the conceptual/lyrical content of Killing Joke, why not toddle home and slap on a Pixies or Cheap Trick album and celebrate the meaningless and banal. At least Killing Joke have something to say. You may not like it, agree with it...or even understand it....but at least there something of substance there. Killing Joke credit their audience with higher standards and a modicum of intelligence. Try getting that from Korn.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 March 2003 22:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 March 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 18:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
note: i agree that Big Black owe A LOT to KJ.
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
These bands weren't predecessors of Killing Joke, they were peers.
i find it extremly hard to beleave that Jaz Dosen't even Like New Order, what about their synth rock/pop tracks? they weren't the first.
Whoever said the Joke don't like New Order? Jaz has gone on record a few times saying Joy Division were one of the few of their fellow bands he actually liked and respected. Moreover, Peter Hook actually filled in on bass detail for Killing Joke for a very brief spell.
shur they were inspirational!
Awfully big of you.
... but i don't see them as the most inspirational Post Punk band.
Who said they were? My point, however, is that they don't get the recognition they rightfully deserve.
There were lots of Post punk bands that were far more inspirational for the "heavy sound" today than KJ, doesn't anyone see that?
Post-Punk in itself wasn't exactly a wellspring of 'heavy,' though. The Joke paired the fresher, spartan approach of what was turning into "post-punk" and paired it with a heavier sound that owed more to the more conventional Punk Rock and Metal before it. I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke. Gang of Four? No. Joy Division? Not quite. Public Image Ltd.? No.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 March 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 March 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
"I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke"i woun't argue with you on who's heavier, but just trieng to slagg of someone with a different opinion then you is revoulting.
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 14 March 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
hahaha yeah, sorry for getting carried away there.
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link