Ke$ha: Classic or Dud?

tik tok is kind of a top heavy song for me

If only someone would mash up Justice's "The Party" with Kylie's "Love At First Sight" .. Sounds like a hit to me.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2010/04/first-amendment-left-intact/

ok small point of order here:

On the broader question of what categories of expression should be put outside the First Amendment’s protection, Justice Alito argued that “crush videos” should not be shielded “because they are so closely linked with violent criminal conduct,” which itself gets no constitutional protection. He wrote: “The videos record the commission of violent criminal acts, and it appears that these crimes are committed for the sole purpose of creating the videos.” And, he added, Congress had before it “compelling evidence” that the only way to prevent the crime of animal cruelty was to target the sale of the videos — a perception that, Alito suggested, seemed to have been proven when the passage of the 1999 law led within a few years to destruction of the “crush video industry,” only to have it revive after the Third Circuit struck down that law.

i thought "crush videos" were entirely legendary??

tik tok is kind of a top heavy song for me

xpost: what does this mean, surm?

it means that the 1st verse is much more exciting to me than the 2nd verse, which just kind of floats away

Wait, so Ke$ha makes crush videos?

like, i mainly put it on to hear her say "clothes" and "phones"

the chorus is functional but not as ecstatic as it was probably intended to be, imho

is she dead yet?

i thought "crush videos" were entirely legendary??

― goole, Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i actually saw one embedded in a "post this if you think this is wrong" myspace chain letter many years ago, no joke. it was a woman stepping on a puppy to death. maybe it was simulated but it didn't look like it was.

i didn't realize what it was until a few seconds into it..it was needless to say totally disturbing and soul crushing.

so...back to waking up and feeling like P Diddy

sole crushing

http://badbanana.typepad.com/weblog/images/2008/04/20/5.jpg

Beatweek readers are still offering widely split opinions on what to make of Kesha’s recent avant garde Saturday Night Live performance of Tik Tok and Your Love Is My Drug – but the sales charts say she’s doing just fine. Her debut album Animal, which was released in January and debuted at #1 on the Billboard Top Ten chart, has been catapulted back up into the top top, currently at #8. http://www.beatweek.com/news/4598-kesha-helped-on-charts-by-snl-performance/

Her metallic outfit and cape for "Tik Tok" and her black body suit covered in florescent paint for "Your Love" I guess constitutes avante-garde. Or maybe she's just going for a more MOR Lady Gaga approach.

aw jeez not "gaga is so edgy" again

maybe I'm just swayed by that influences list that annoyed Alex, but the visual stuff in her SNL performance just looked to me like a grab-bag of stuff you might get from, like, MGMT, Sia, Flaming Lips, old Daft Punk videos, etc.

(The performance struck me as terrible -- I like "Tik Tok" okay, I guess, and it just seemed like one of those moments where the pop star comes out seeming lifeless and silly and going-through-the-motions, totally unable to back up whatever feeling the recording created. Which is kinda embarrassing, since you could probably find someone in any given karaoke bar who could pull that song off better.)

It wasn't avant garde.. it was embarrassing. I felt bad for her. It looked like she was making a joke out of herself. Very awkward and uncomfortable.

Re: the Kesha music influences list.

It really isn't too surprising when you consider (and this culled from good friend Wikipedia) a) her parents are/were in the music business b) she's from L.A., specifically the Valley c) her family wasn't wealthy d) she was actually pretty studious and academic in high school

It really isn't too different from the filmmakers who grew up in the Valley, watched every movie at their local video store, and then later went on to have success as a director (Burton, P.T. Anderson, to name two)

Tik-Tok was straight-up Jean-Michel Jarre Rendez-Vous Houston steez, from the astronauts to the laser-harp. I dig Ke$ha - it's like Rayanne Graff being voted prom queen.

I mentioned "her family wasn't wealthy" because kids don't care to consume all that much from pop and entertainment's past i.e. do their homework, when they come from a wealthy entertainment background. xpost

Her music sounds like Uffie for people who shop at Walmart.

i really think you're on to something!

Beatweek readers are still offering widely split opinions on what to make of Kesha’s recent avant garde Saturday Night Live performance of Tik Tok and Your Love Is My Drug – but the sales charts say she’s doing just fine. Her debut album Animal, which was released in January and debuted at #1 on the Billboard Top Ten chart, has been catapulted back up into the top top, currently at #8. http://www.beatweek.com/news/4598-kesha-helped-on-charts-by-snl-performance/

Her metallic outfit and cape for "Tik Tok" and her black body suit covered in florescent paint for "Your Love" I guess constitutes avante-garde. Or maybe she's just going for a more MOR Lady Gaga approach.

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:16 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sure is amazing how her SNL performances boosted her sales for the week that ended right before the performance. it was just that good!

lots of people also like heroin.

Ke$ha reminds me of myself at age 8 wrapping a towel around my back and talking about martians on Saturday Night Live.

I dig Ke$ha - it's like Rayanne Graff being voted prom queen.

― solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:23 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

yea i wouldn't give her that much credit

i saw her on snl and there were aspects that reminded me of Avenue D and others that were GaGa, but she was like a cheaper, less confident version of each and I don't like those people to begin with.

I knew a kid who came to the high school talent show in Adam Ant make-up and sang a karaoke version of a pink song. Some people called him fag, most just felt embarrassed for even being in the same room. That's about how I felt on Saturday.

i just thought it was retarded and funny.

ugh i haven't seen this shit, do i have to

the "tik tok" performance is honestly sad -- not sure how anyone could think otherwise -- it's not even self-conscious enough -- middle school talent show is about right...

the second performance is whatever

she was like a cheaper, less confident version of each

that's pretty much it right there

oh LOL it's not THAT bad, it's just like, hi it's me in a cape singing my ok song (!!)

the chorus is functional but not as ecstatic as it was probably intended to be, imho

― la senora (surm), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

goes pretty big on "blow my speakers up tonight," no? the rest of the album suffers from this, though. it's sad, you can hear them trying to pull of these blasting pop chorus but it never really gets there.

ramzi :D

the chorus is functional but not as ecstatic as it was probably intended to be, imho

― la senora (surm), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

if this is about "your love is my drug" it's otm -- i was definitely thinking... "this is trying to be massive... it feels massive... but it's just kind of flat..."

i hated that song the first time i heard it, and yeah, it is kind of tepid, but i like it

it's about Tik Tok, xp. i just don't want to listen to it as much as it seems to want me to.

bonus points for the seemingly random "i like your beard!"

"blah blah blah" is way better -- i was disappointed that she didn't do that

really???

for me it's "Tik ToK" > "Your Love Is My Drug" > "Blah Blah Blah"

yeah -- the "your love is my drug" hook is so conventional -- it's like bad natasha beningfield or something

at least "blah blah blah" shoves its wretched twat in your face with no remorse

i'm telling you u should listen to leighton meester's "your love's a drug"

http://www.apuritansmind.com/images/MiscImages/hell2.jpg

Nicely done.

there's a lot of animosity towards Kesha, not just here, I kinda get it and I kinda don't. Musically she's a lot like Katy Perry who hasn't been on the receiving end of nearly as much haterade so I assume most of it comes from the fact that she dresses like a homeless 90s club kid that makes people hate her so much. [...]

― musically, Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:48 PM Bookmark

I sorta think this is basically accurate (the vexation heaped on "homeless 90s club kid" look-and-feel) but to be fair, Katy Perry got/gets plenty of haterade on ILM! It's been a while but I seem to recall the original I Kissed A Girl thread throwing down some real negativity.

I think Ke$ha's problems boil down to, the songs are pretty good but the persona is galling. Right? Like, I want my dumb party pop songs to come from people who sound like you'd actually want to party with them. Except to the extent that Ke$ha is constantly promising casual sex in the near future, I can't imagine wanting to hang out with her - - - she comes off as loud, brassy in a bad way, full of herself, convinced she's funnier than she is, etc.... I mean these are basically the reasons I'm not so drawn to hang out with most 20-year-olds these days but really, her self-builtbrand is "sleazy, drunken moron." Sidekick version of Fergie on "London Bridge." Is it really surprising that there are people that this doesn't appeal to?

Also, I mean, the "$."

(This is all just going on the songs/videos - haven't seen any interviews or anything like that.)

http://imgur.com/FBjfV.jpg

blitzkreig tok?

new album out next month. I'm getting an If I Can't Have Love, I Want Power vibe from the two singles released today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG73hFraLig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1hecebh3Hc