ppl ranking thief of hearts way too low.
― la senora (surm), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link
' you fucked it up '
― la senora (surm), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
lololol
The line between unbelievably great and not so good, for me, falls between "In This Life" and "Why's It So Hard."
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Why's It So HardWords = In This Life
― Tim F
Ok this just shattered my globe. Tim F, how can someone with such unfailingly exquisite taste prefer "Why's It So Hard" to "Words???" Some facts are in order:
"Words" dances; "Why's It So Hard" does not"Words" slashes; "Why's It So Hard" plods"Words" has ear-bending Orientalist sonics, a rap, and a typewriter; "Why's It So Hard" eschews gimmickry (a bad thing in pop music)"Words" has decent lyrics; "Why's It So Hard" has freakishly godawful ones, quite possibly the very worst in her career"Words" is one of the better unsung songs on the album; "Why's It So Hard" is easily the worst and should never be sung"Words" could generate a nifty student paper utilizing Speech Act Theory; "Why's It So Hard" generates embarrassment for Madonna's good intentions"Words" is not crappy; "Why's It So Hard" is
Tim F, please to explain and help me put my globe back together. kthxbyexoxoxo
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
"Words" is one of her Great Singles That Never Were.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
see?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
But I like "Why's It So Hard" too. I'm a sucker for that early nineties shufflebeat, and that keyboard sound.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Deeper and Deeper - probably my second favorite Madonna song after Into The Groove.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Here's how I'd rank them:
"Deeper and Deeper""Thief of Hearts" (surm waaay otm; y'all are gay disco/Madonna fans yet you rank this so low??)"Words""Bye Bye Baby""Fever""Erotica"
Then it stops being disco and a serious nosedive results
"Rain""Bad Girl""Did You Do It?""Secret Garden""Where Life Begins" "Waiting""In This Life" Stephen David Heitkotterthose Jandek spoken word albumswhite noise"Why's It So Hard"
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
actually i'm relistening now and i have no idea why i put "thief of hearts" so low!
YOU'LL DO IT YOU'LL TAKE ITYOU'LL SCREW IT YOU'LL FAKE ITUNDO IT YOU'LL BREAK ITYOU'RE OVER YOU CAN'T TAKE IT
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
thank you! you of all people!
― la senora (surm), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i confused it with "where life begins", which should be lower
tbh i quite love every song on this album apart from "why's it so hard" (so hideous) so a low placement isn't that meaningful
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
honestly the only one of the fast songs I'm not crazy about is the title track.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
the bassline tho! love that bassline.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
"Where Life Begins" starting to emerge as underrated.
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
can we talk about Bye Bye Baby?
― la senora (surm), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Great bass on that too.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
had ever seen the Deeper and Deeper video until now. this song is so good.
― la senora (surm), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Why's It So Hard and Words are both cringeworthy in parts but I kind of like the reggae-house vibe of the former. "Words" I used to think was one of Madonna's worst songs ever lyrically but I like it now more than I used to (also this was before her lyrics completely jumped the shark at the beginning of the 00s).
― Tim F, Thursday, 22 April 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I picked Secret Garden because the production + her metaphor for wanting a child makes the song great. Since I know more about her personal life than I should it makes the song all the more poignant for me.
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 23 April 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link
surm i love thief of hearts a lot, too. is there consensus that she's singing about herself?
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 April 2010 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
does it matter? If you say she is, then she is.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 April 2010 10:54 (fourteen years ago) link
"Rain". "It Used To Be My Playground" is better than anything on this album though.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 23 April 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, in that there is no song that exists with that title.
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Well "This Used To Be My Playground". A wonderful melodic ballad that is and remains the best Madonna/Shep Bettibone moment.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
And also the best Madonna song between the "Like a Prayer" and "Ray Of Light" albums, no less.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Interesting. I wonder how this revelation might turn this conversation.
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
so does everyone agree this is Madonna's best album? (apart from Geir obv)
― nevermind312, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't; for me it's either True Blue or Ray of Light.
― HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Mine are:
EroticaMadonnaLike a Prayer
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think it's her best either. tbh i think that's kind of an over-inflated standpoint.
― la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
FIGHTIN WORDS
Madonna is my #3, definitely.
― HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
my 2 favorites are Madonna and Like a Virgin.
― la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I think Like A Virgin has the biggest gulf in quality between the singles and the album tracks.
― HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
i enjoy the buzz-y fluff of Shoo-Bee-Doo and Stay, and all the other trax are golden, non-smashes included (Over and Over, Angel). plus all the remixes of Angel are awes
― la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
"Angel" was a top 5 single...?
― HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
but obv, i know what u mean. i think the bubbly nothing sort of sound to some of the trax is one of my favorite things about the album, actually.
― la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yea but it doesn't compare to Material Girl, Dress You Up, the title track or Love Don't Live Here Anymore in terms of modern-day popularity or overall recognizability, if i'm not mistaken.
― la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Well nothing compares to "Material Girl" in terms of modern-day popularity, considering that is still what Madonna gets called.
― HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
if Madonna would somehow have swapped "Shoo-Bee-Doo", "Pretender" and " "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" for "Into The Groove", "Crazy For You" and "Gambler" then the album would have been 1000 times better at least.
― nevermind312, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i would venture to guess that a lot of ppl would be far more familiar with Like A Virgin, Dress You Up or even Love Don't Live Here Anymore more readily than they would know Angel. but maybe that's just the ppl i happen to know.
― la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually, I don't know too many (straight people) who regard Erotica as anything other than one of her worst. Geir is sadly not alone.
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
And one of the reasons I think it's her best probably has something to do with the fact that I don't like most of her other albums much beyond the singles.
I'd guess her worst is Something To Remember, which ironically I can't remember a single song from.
― HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought that was just a collection of her ballads or something?
― la senora (surm), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, those songs all sounded like stuff she did before.
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
xp :)
ha no wonder I don't remember anything from it; I was looking at the singles off of it on Wikipedia and going "wtf are these songs"
― HI DERE, Friday, 23 April 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
so basically the same results as last time.
― nevermind312, Monday, 3 May 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
WHY ISN'T BAD GIRL HIGHER THAN RAIN?
BC RAIN IS EPIC
― la senora (surm), Monday, 3 May 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link
What a fantastic scenario, surm!
― will live out his days in gloomy batchelorhood (Eric H.), Monday, 3 May 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
RAIN IS EPIC
If you're a photographer, it may be......
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I feel like "Waiting" is definitely the most underrated track on this album. The post-"Justify My Love" production suits Madonna's (then) sultriness so well (plus the drums on this are beautiful) and for what seems like an understated, part-spoken-word track it's actually overloaded with so many different hooks. The way the generic lyrics fit together is just masterly as well, like the "don't go breaking my heart like you said you would / baby you're no good / but I love you like no other lover ever could" bridge - all the internal rhyming. And when the piano chords come in! And the ticking clock!
― Tim F, Sunday, 16 May 2010 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link
point taken. her voice! so husky
― i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Sunday, 16 May 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of an understatedly perfect representation of the album's sound
― i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Sunday, 16 May 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Juzwiak for the defense:
http://gawker.com/5953385/madonnas-pussy-is-the-temple-of-learning-erotica-at-20
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 October 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
What sucks about it is I can't listen to the album now.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
Wait, as in you can't right this second or...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
"Bad Girl" 2
Wut!?
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
I don't get people who love this album but don't like "Bad Girl."
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
btw: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8006663/madonna-erotica-album-sex-book-oral-history
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
It's one of her finest tracks, IMO... sonically it sounds OTM, too. Great production.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link
She was really trying to push people's buttons around this time... what other established pop star of the time would have dared to adorn the back sleeve of their latest record with a picture of themselves giving someone a "toe job"? What established pop star would dare do that now, even!?
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
SHEP: I guess I’m always trying to out-top myself, I told her, the next thing should be bigger than the last. Madonna just turned and looked me straight in the eye. It had been a long time since I’d been star-struck by her, but she was glowing differently now. Shep, she began, no matter how fierce something is, you can’t ever do the same thing twice. She sat down to record the final vocals on Erotica and looked out onto the terrace and into the New York City night. Ever, she repeated.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
"deeper and deeper" is prob objectively the best song on this record but i would've voted for "words," love the gallop of the rhythm track and all those whirring sounds. second place "rain" which is an excellent cocteau twins song
lotta great weird bridges on this record
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
my god "Words"
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link
the best album
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 May 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
BITCH
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 May 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link
<crash>
― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 May 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
Yes, best album, no discussion allowed
FeverEroticaWhere Life BeginsDeeper and DeeperBad GirlWordsSecret GardenRainThief of HeartsWaitingIn This LifeWhy's It So HardBye Bye Baby― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:20 PM (twelve years ago)
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:20 PM (twelve years ago)
No.
Deeper and DeeperBad GirlThief of HeartsEroticaWordsFeverRainSecret GardenIn This LifeWhere Life BeginsBye Bye BabyWaitingWhy's It So Hard
― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 May 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
"Words" is my top pick -- it sounds like a 4 am drug racket in my head while dancing at a modestly cool gay club in my '20s.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 May 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link
I guess I like "Waiting" a lot better than y'all. Also, while I respect "In This Life" and the inclusion of such a song on a Madonna album in 1992, I usually skip it.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Saturday, 28 May 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link
I'm all about 'Bad Girl'
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 April 2024 19:27 (four weeks ago) link
drunk by six!
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2024 19:36 (four weeks ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, May 28, 2022 10:48 AM
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 5 April 2024 20:13 (four weeks ago) link
you screw ityou fake it
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2024 20:16 (four weeks ago) link