I HATE APPLE

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oh actually it did. it turned off the rounded corners.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Run software update, install 10.5.2 and you'll have an option in system preferences to make the menu bar solid.

Ed, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

still hangin tough with tiger, my goal is to keep this computer alive long enough to skip leopard completely

Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm talking about the DOCK, not the menu bar

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

tracer how do you know that 10.6 COUGAR won't be worse than leopard?

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

btw i have 10.5.2 and the "translucent menu bar" checkbox doesn't show up in my system preferences. weird, right?

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

if it is even worse then i will downgrade to OS9 in silent protest

Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

TOM THEY ADDED TABS IN TERMINAL APP SO I DONT NEED TO USE DODGY SHAREWARE FUCK YOU

btw i have 10.5.2 and the "translucent menu bar" checkbox doesn't show up in my system preferences. weird, right?

-- moonship journey to baja, Monday, March 10, 2008 2:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

under DESKTOP at the bottom

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Looks pretty solid to me! (Ask Tuaw?)

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2324975082_11e5d5bdcc.jpg

here's my ugly dock

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

There is no (EnvironmentVariables) default for the (/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.WindowServer) domain.

^ bizarre

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

isn't there a 3rd party prefpane to set env vars?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i gave up on the menu bar. people are saying it has something to do with old graphics cards? who knows.

reset the dock also. trying to figure out whether left dock or right dock is a better choice.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link

If yr card isn't up to the translucent menu bar, you get the solid one anyway (and the pref doesn't appear).

stet, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

But, aye, Leopard is uggggly

stet, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i should correct: the bar IS solid, the drop-down menus are translucent, which is also annoying. now mail won't do notes.

damn, shit is uggggly and buggggy

OTOH it does seem to run much quicker than usual.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

i only did this because all of the omnigroup stuff is slowly going to leopard-only and i use their products slavishly. and i guess also to ease the eventual transition into leopard.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to be against auto-hide for some reason, but now it's right-side dock, hidden, all the way.

I haven't really run into that many bugs and it looks fine to me, haters. I can hate Apple for completely different reasons, though.

mh, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

guys if you really want to fuckin' geek th' fuck out on screen graphics -- like me, I mean -- apple is the wrong OS. GTK basically uses stylesheets with a splash of python, and it's hella customizable, and Murrine is like the next gen of that with all kinds of fun alpha transparency and glassiness. It's all good times for people who like to make things pretty.

kenan, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i need a full, viable OS

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link

There's all sorts of graphics pipeline problems with Linux/X/GTK that make it a dog.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

kenan, that is why I used the enlightenment window manager (speedy and customizable!) and hung out on their irc channel for a couple years, before I realized that my time would be better spent elsewhere. Most GTK themes are pretty fugly, and this Murine thing doesn't seem to be that much prettier off the shelf, although I am sure with my complete lack of graphic design skill I could make some amazing themes.

mh, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

If you can make an attractive website, you can make a GTK theme. Although I'm curious what trouble jon has run into.

kenan, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

O, this is nice: hadn't realised that you browse iPhoto, iTunes, iMovie and Aperture libraries from any Open... dialog box

stet, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

that you can

stet, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

quick look is dope too

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

sort of makes my document management software seem a little irrelevant

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

If you can make an attractive website, you can make a GTK theme. Although I'm curious what trouble jon has run into.

I haven't looked at GTK in like 3 years, but there are some major problems with the way the way stuff is composited in X11 versus OS X.


Quartz Compositor is the compositing engine used by Quartz 2D and other renderers, such as OpenGL, Core Image, and QuickTime. In Mac OS X 10.2 and later, Quartz Compositor uses the processors (GPUs) on supported graphics cards to vastly improve composition performance. This technology is known as Quartz Extreme, and is enabled automatically on systems with supported graphics cards.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

What is the app in your dock with the octopus icon?

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i just like fucking around a lot w/ custom icons.

from left to right:

finder, preview, mail
safari (the tidal wave icon)
omnifocus (the crosslegged dude)
omnioutliner pro (the crab)
devonthink pro (the octopus)

the funky walkie-talkie thing is ichat

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i just like fucking around a lot w/ custom icons.

from left to right:

finder, preview, mail
safari (the tidal wave icon)
omnifocus (the crosslegged dude)
omnioutliner pro (the crab)
devonthink pro (the octopus)

the funky walkie-talkie thing is ichat

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

quick look is dope too

-- moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:15 (46 minutes ago) Link

This is the only Leopard feature I give a shit about. I'm still running 10.4 until I finish current project and feel like I am missing out on nothing. I might feel differently if I needed Time Machine, which is pretty awesome (assuming it works, I haven't seen it in action yet).

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

so:

1. finish project
2. get this fixed under warranty: http://www.flickr.com/groups/crackedmacbook/ and get new grease-and-dead-skin-free keyboard and trackpad for free at the same time, yay. black macbook is very gross and mayonnaisey.
3. install leopard, bootcamp, XP and the orange box
4. disappear into half life for fortnight

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

The Finder is better except if you're 95 years old and come into my office and complain about font sizes twice weekly

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

better how? can it be summarised? or do I need to either use it or read siracusa's novella to understand?

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

weirdness: i dropped my powerbook a month ago and the shift key went flying off. the underneath pieces were smashed up so i got a brand-new new keyboard for free under applecare. i dropped my laptop six months ago and the corner of the case got smashed and they *wouldn't* give me a new case for free under applecare.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

new grease-and-dead-skin-free keyboard

i swear by iskin

http://www.iskin.com/faq/images/mb_sm.jpg

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

also makes the whole thing much less "clicky", useful for in-class / sleeping fiancee scenarios

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

i do not have fiancee : (

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

what is a good, free text editor that does syntax hi-lighting in HTML that I can recommend to a friend? I use Vim so I'm out of the loop on this. Something like SubEthaEdit or Textmate but simpler and free.

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you can still get BBEdit Lite

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

TextWrangler is what Tracer means.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Is TextMate worth it?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Man... speaking of icons, the Bare Bones people really suck at them. Along with a couple other choice examples of graphic terpitude, I HAD to replace the icon for BBEdit in my dock. (Candy Bar is one of my favorite hoonja-doonjas.)

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I should change my dock to something nicer...

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I like TextMate and own it, but I haven't played with it enough to endorse it above all others. The extension that lets you download and install other extensions is pretty sweet.

mh, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i dropped my laptop six months ago and the corner of the case got smashed

i did this two weeks ago. not sure if the airtunes trouble i've had since is related or not.

TextMate has proved 100% worth it for me (for LaTeX). I imagine any other geeky writing will justify it, too.

toby, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

If you already know your way around Vim or emacs then I get the impression from playing with Textmate for a couple of days that it isn't worth it. It costs infinity per cent more than either and can do less. But if you're using anything less sophisticated than that and you do serious text editing then it's definitely worth looking at. I never got BBedit, but then I am under 30.

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link


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