Ke$ha: Classic or Dud?

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i really think you're on to something!

artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Beatweek readers are still offering widely split opinions on what to make of Kesha’s recent avant garde Saturday Night Live performance of Tik Tok and Your Love Is My Drug – but the sales charts say she’s doing just fine. Her debut album Animal, which was released in January and debuted at #1 on the Billboard Top Ten chart, has been catapulted back up into the top top, currently at #8. http://www.beatweek.com/news/4598-kesha-helped-on-charts-by-snl-performance/

Her metallic outfit and cape for "Tik Tok" and her black body suit covered in florescent paint for "Your Love" I guess constitutes avante-garde. Or maybe she's just going for a more MOR Lady Gaga approach.

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:16 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sure is amazing how her SNL performances boosted her sales for the week that ended right before the performance. it was just that good!

Spiney G. Porcupinegarden (some dude), Thursday, 22 April 2010 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

lots of people also like heroin.

Blancminaj (Spinspin Sugah), Thursday, 22 April 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Ke$ha reminds me of myself at age 8 wrapping a towel around my back and talking about martians on Saturday Night Live.

banaka, Thursday, 22 April 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I dig Ke$ha - it's like Rayanne Graff being voted prom queen.

― solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:23 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

gonna have to change jobs & change gods (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 22 April 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

yea i wouldn't give her that much credit

la senora (surm), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw her on snl and there were aspects that reminded me of Avenue D and others that were GaGa, but she was like a cheaper, less confident version of each and I don't like those people to begin with.

I knew a kid who came to the high school talent show in Adam Ant make-up and sang a karaoke version of a pink song. Some people called him fag, most just felt embarrassed for even being in the same room. That's about how I felt on Saturday.

Fellini.Kuti, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i just thought it was retarded and funny.

The Holy Seefeel (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh i haven't seen this shit, do i have to

la senora (surm), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

the "tik tok" performance is honestly sad -- not sure how anyone could think otherwise -- it's not even self-conscious enough -- middle school talent show is about right...

the second performance is whatever

artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link

she was like a cheaper, less confident version of each

that's pretty much it right there

dmr, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

oh LOL it's not THAT bad, it's just like, hi it's me in a cape singing my ok song (!!)

la senora (surm), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link

the chorus is functional but not as ecstatic as it was probably intended to be, imho

― la senora (surm), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

goes pretty big on "blow my speakers up tonight," no? the rest of the album suffers from this, though. it's sad, you can hear them trying to pull of these blasting pop chorus but it never really gets there.

imma sb (samosa gibreel), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link

ramzi :D

artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link

the chorus is functional but not as ecstatic as it was probably intended to be, imho

― la senora (surm), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

if this is about "your love is my drug" it's otm -- i was definitely thinking... "this is trying to be massive... it feels massive... but it's just kind of flat..."

artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i hated that song the first time i heard it, and yeah, it is kind of tepid, but i like it

ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link

it's about Tik Tok, xp. i just don't want to listen to it as much as it seems to want me to.

la senora (surm), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link

bonus points for the seemingly random "i like your beard!"

ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

"blah blah blah" is way better -- i was disappointed that she didn't do that

artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

really???

ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link

for me it's "Tik ToK" > "Your Love Is My Drug" > "Blah Blah Blah"

ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah -- the "your love is my drug" hook is so conventional -- it's like bad natasha beningfield or something

artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link

at least "blah blah blah" shoves its wretched twat in your face with no remorse

artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm telling you u should listen to leighton meester's "your love's a drug"

la senora (surm), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Nicely done.

billstevejim, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a lot of animosity towards Kesha, not just here, I kinda get it and I kinda don't. Musically she's a lot like Katy Perry who hasn't been on the receiving end of nearly as much haterade so I assume most of it comes from the fact that she dresses like a homeless 90s club kid that makes people hate her so much. [...]

― musically, Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:48 PM Bookmark

I sorta think this is basically accurate (the vexation heaped on "homeless 90s club kid" look-and-feel) but to be fair, Katy Perry got/gets plenty of haterade on ILM! It's been a while but I seem to recall the original I Kissed A Girl thread throwing down some real negativity.

I think Ke$ha's problems boil down to, the songs are pretty good but the persona is galling. Right? Like, I want my dumb party pop songs to come from people who sound like you'd actually want to party with them. Except to the extent that Ke$ha is constantly promising casual sex in the near future, I can't imagine wanting to hang out with her - - - she comes off as loud, brassy in a bad way, full of herself, convinced she's funnier than she is, etc.... I mean these are basically the reasons I'm not so drawn to hang out with most 20-year-olds these days but really, her self-builtbrand is "sleazy, drunken moron." Sidekick version of Fergie on "London Bridge." Is it really surprising that there are people that this doesn't appeal to?

Also, I mean, the "$."

(This is all just going on the songs/videos - haven't seen any interviews or anything like that.)

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 22 April 2010 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link

http://imgur.com/FBjfV.jpg

Moka, Thursday, 22 April 2010 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

blitzkreig tok?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 22 April 2010 10:30 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg1qkChBCM

Example's cover of Tik Tok

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 23 April 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

:-(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg1qkChBCMc

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 23 April 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

oh LOL it's not THAT bad, it's just like, hi it's me in a cape singing my ok song (!!)

― la senora (surm), Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:18 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

new cape of good hope board description

some dude, Friday, 23 April 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

still don't know how/why these exist, but the cooly g and untold remixes of "tik tok" lift the original out of "unlistenable garbage" into "interesting curio" territory (if not "actually amazing") - both are prob on autopilot-for-pay but it just shows how far you can go after a) removing some of the unnecessary autotune b) an actually interesting beat rather than rudimentary electrocrap c) treating ke$ha's vocals so that they're actually ON the beat rather than lurching around it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeQbV48gwTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqH8KiD8hjk

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

god the wolf howls annoy the fuck out of me though

that example cover is terrible but actually better than the original

what's frustrating is that i genuinely think there's an effective, fun club banger hiding inside that song - it just needs to be played totally straight and robo-diva-voiced. where are the PCDs when you need 'em.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Predicting you will have done a complete volte-face on Ke$ha in 12 months' time.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 April 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

that will be up to her innit. 100% sure i won't have done a volte-face on anything she's released to date - nothing even has the earworm factor that eg "poker face" did when i still hated it

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Predicting you will have done a complete volte-face on Ke$ha in 12 months' time.

― Matt DC, Friday, April 23, 2010 11:20 AM Bookmark

for a second read this as some sexual euphemism i wasn't familiar with

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 April 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Xpost the literal middle school talent show video of Kesha singing "Karma Police" is actually less awkward than "Tik Tok" on SNL.

billstevejim, Saturday, 24 April 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIHDGDzVwK4

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 April 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

cracked up at the pronunciation of "keh dollar sign ha" on SNL last night

surmudgeon (some dude), Sunday, 25 April 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been laying low cause I figured I wore out my Ke$ha-love welcome on the "worth it" thread, but she is SO CLASSIC. Here's my recent review at Burnside Writers' Collective. I quoted Lex and ILXOR! Also agree with Doctor Casino above, "I can't imagine wanting to hang out with her." And yet...

dr. phil, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i get this weird canadian vibe from her

Shakey Ja Mocha (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

is it shaped like a maple leaf?

Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

the johnny rotten and guns'n'roses comparisons make so much sense to me. they fucking suck too, and in similar ways.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

nah it's like when i remember traveling to canada a long time ago and watching that Much Music station...i think they have to play a certain amount of canadian artists, so there were all these groups that totally seemed like popular artists but something was just...off...slightly

like they seemed like the mr.pibbs to the u.s. groups' dr. pepper....sorta like that robin sparkles character on how i met your mother

when i first saw ke$sha's video it seemed like canada trying to make a modern post britney/gaga/xtina/LA clusterfuck club scene type pop star

Shakey Ja Mocha (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

;_; I thought that was a pretty good vibrator joke

Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahaha i'm just dumb dude, don't worry

Shakey Ja Mocha (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yeah Our Lady Peace, that was one of the groups i was trying to think of

Shakey Ja Mocha (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i get this weird canadian vibe from her

I thought you were saying this because her voice she reminds you of "it's like Rayaaaaain onyer wedding day, it's the free riiiiiiiiiii--" type stuff

Cunga, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

nah it's like when i remember traveling to canada a long time ago and watching that Much Music station...i think they have to play a certain amount of canadian artists, so there were all these groups that totally seemed like popular artists but something was just...off...slightly

at first i didn't know what you were getting at w/ the canadian thing, but now that you explain it like that, i think you're OTM. it like she's going through the motions of being a big artist, when she's not really at that point yet.

there's a show on much right now called "disband," where they take a canadian band, make them work with a songwriter/producer in order to prep a song of theirs for a performance. they play that song live in front of said judges (mostly industry reps), and then they are told whether or not they should remain a band. it's quite entertaining to watch, but the bands that "win" go on to minor successes, and now there are around 2-3 that are just bombarding the airwaves. it's awful, because all they did was win a contest, but because they're canadian, they get an amount of play on the radio and on tv that's on par with some of the biggest american acts.

borntohula, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link


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