A Dangerous Method -- David Cronenberg/Viggo Mortensen's latest

they're always in these terrible affected 30s english accents or in this instance probably guttural sturm und drang histrionics, as soderbergh said (re 'che') it's a lot easier to get financing this way but it always suggests a sort of cultural imperialism or at least laziness

freud and to a lesser extent jung are canonical figures within that austro-german tradition, freud has a very distinctive literary voice

it's cool in something like 'time bandits' but given cronenberg's 'deeply serious treatment of the subject' it will probably jar, though of course if it doesn't bother you then good for you! i didn't mind too much in polanski's 'the pianist', anyway

You can use deeply serious accent stereotypes to convey things too, though. I think framing a film in austro-german stereotypes and perceptions from a North American viewpoint could be just as serious, if not more so.

but it always suggests a sort of cultural imperialism

often but not always. lots of french films (in french) about italians and vice-versa. chinese films about vietnam, etc. it just sort of happens. agreed that the "middle" solution--having characters speak english but in german/french/italian/polish/whatever accents--can be irritating/distracting. but i sympathize with directors faced w/ this problem, there's no real good solution short of pulling an inglorious basterds and having people speak french and german for 2/3 of the movie.

john mctiernan was a bit obsessed w/ this and found unique formal workarounds in most of his films.

there's no real good solution short of pulling an inglorious basterds and having people speak french and german for 2/3 of the movie.

there's yr solution! if a costly picture like that can do it then it lessens the excuse

and as said, cultural imperialism is the strong form but often it just seems slovenly in a film depicting historical events in supposed verisimilitude

and as you say there are workarounds, like they could pretend the girl was english rather than russian, hardly the greatest mistruth! freud spoke english and probably jung too....

that's clearly not a very good idea but anything to avoid keira knightly speaking middlebrow english theatre dialogue in smudged mitteleuropa inflections

but mctiernan would do stuff like zoom into the mouth of sean connery speaking russian and zoom out and bam! he's speaking english. like by acknowledging the artifice he would forestall all complaints.

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/freudbird.jpg

http://www.kinogallery.com/kino/kinogallery.com_dangerousmethod_shot_2.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ7JKmcLTsI

i cant believe waltz turned this down to do water for shitty-ass stupid elephants - otoh we're probably richer for having a movie where viggo plays freud - so stoked for this

fuck this jane austen bullshit

more "therapy" spankings, less enigmatic closeups or i'm claiming ghost-directed

its a general audiences trailer, iirc eastern promises had a horrible trailer too - i have no doubt that cronenberg is gonna go ham on this material

fast bind her indeed

fuck this jane austen bullshit

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:48 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

you're my sworn enemy

oh i definitely want him to, dont get me wrong. dude is basically my fave working english-lang director.

So three Viggo movies in a row?

It's like the counterweight to Burton/Depp these days.

so OTM

also nice to see an actor/director pairing that actually WORKS instead of this Scorsese/DiCaprio, Burton/Depp, Spielberg/Cruise bullshit

also

I R EXCITED

four in a row if he does go ahead and make eastern promises 2 then

It originally wasn't meant to be a Viggo Vehicle, he just came on board when Christoph Waltz turned down the Freud role... i assume we will all be richer for this

no wait i forgot he's making cosmopolis next

four in a row if he does go ahead and make eastern promises 2 then

hes been ruining traffic on my street shooting a don delillo adaptation w/ the dude from twilight for the last month

a friend of mine tells this good viggo story that ends with some woman screaming I'M THE ONE WHO WAKES UP NEXT TO VIGGO'S STIFF DICK EVERY MORNING OK

haha yeah see above. remembered after i posted. dude from twilight is the only possible way to step down from colin farrell so idk about this

xpost Was that a boast or complaint?

Maybe Viggo is a lucky charm at this point, as the last two got Cronenberg more mainstream cred than his last few before that. Dude's gunning for Oscars ...

if cronenberg was gonna do any delilo he shoulda done running dog

think she was in the middle of an argument between viggo n someone else and was asked to take sides, everyone in the room got really quiet after that

kinda hoping Cronenberg returns to sci-fi/horror at some point tbh, although he has definitely been on a good streak lately

i mean its about porn starring hitler. surely that has to punch all the cronenbergian buttons at once.

didn't know he was doing Cosmopolis, reading the casting history is bizarre (from colling farrel/marion cotillard to robert pattinson/keira knightly to pattingson/Juliette Binoche?)

sorry for all the extra gs

kiera knightley? really?

works for me http://i.imgur.com/i2WnO.gif

viggo seems like a bro but the kinda bro where youd have to tell him you need some sleep 36 hours into a brodown weekend when he's still raring to discuss spinoza and carve a mountain flute out of goat horn.

but he's probably play you a lullaby on his mountain flute so it's all good

i can't see why they didn't go with something simple like spanking miss knightley

no. 1 sign this is going to go HAM: her accent

okay the spank scene where dude is windmilling like she's a guitar = lol

david cronenberg's "daddy issues"

david cronenberg's "daddy day care"

Would be better if Fassbender wore the Magneto helmet and cape.

As long as it's better than Phil Kaufman's "Quills," I'll be happy enough.

viggo seems like a bro but the kinda bro where youd have to tell him you need some sleep 36 hours into a brodown weekend when he's still raring to discuss spinoza and carve a mountain flute out of goat horn.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:29 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

ha! he is indeed a bro.

the kinda bro where youd have to tell him you need some sleep 36 hours into a brodown weekend when he's still raring to discuss spinoza and carve a mountain flute out of goat horn

this is awesome in conception, but i do not believe in such bros

having watched the making-of features on the lotr dvds -- "let's not go back to our hotels and camp out and watch the sunrise!" "but viggo we have a 6 am makeup call tomorrow." "aw come on, i'll kill, skin, and cook a goat by hand if that sways yr vote" -- i believe it to be true.

Let's not forget bro sired a child with Exene Cervanka.

man christoph walz, what a dumbass

remember viggo on fox news w/kucinich during election season?

man christoph walz, what a dumbass

no, Christoph Waltz, what a dumb original choice.

wd've played like a Martin Short SCTV sketch w/out laughs

so M. Butterfly is the only other time DC adapted a play?

s'okay. its real biopic-y, which i wasnt expecting and i think weakened the movie. the final shot is the same as the final shot in eastern promises. i liked viggo best in it

nah I kept waiting for an afterdinner Freud-Jung grapple

The film should have been good (director, actors aside from Keira) but it was rather mediocre to be honest. Didn't help that I really loathe Freud. lol.

I liked this more than most. Mortenson was terrific. Top-notch passive-aggressive cigar-smoking.

And yes, Cassel was a blast.