there's no real good solution short of pulling an inglorious basterds and having people speak french and german for 2/3 of the movie.
there's yr solution! if a costly picture like that can do it then it lessens the excuse
and as said, cultural imperialism is the strong form but often it just seems slovenly in a film depicting historical events in supposed verisimilitude
and as you say there are workarounds, like they could pretend the girl was english rather than russian, hardly the greatest mistruth! freud spoke english and probably jung too....
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link
that's clearly not a very good idea but anything to avoid keira knightly speaking middlebrow english theatre dialogue in smudged mitteleuropa inflections
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link
but mctiernan would do stuff like zoom into the mouth of sean connery speaking russian and zoom out and bam! he's speaking english. like by acknowledging the artifice he would forestall all complaints.
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link
http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/freudbird.jpg
http://www.kinogallery.com/kino/kinogallery.com_dangerousmethod_shot_2.jpg
― Implied Nazarene (latebloomer), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ7JKmcLTsI
i cant believe waltz turned this down to do water for shitty-ass stupid elephants - otoh we're probably richer for having a movie where viggo plays freud - so stoked for this
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
fuck this jane austen bullshit
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
more "therapy" spankings, less enigmatic closeups or i'm claiming ghost-directed
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
its a general audiences trailer, iirc eastern promises had a horrible trailer too - i have no doubt that cronenberg is gonna go ham on this material
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
fast bind her indeed
― "what a great post" - some (Lamp), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:48 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
you're my sworn enemy
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
oh i definitely want him to, dont get me wrong. dude is basically my fave working english-lang director.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
So three Viggo movies in a row?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
It's like the counterweight to Burton/Depp these days.
so OTM
also nice to see an actor/director pairing that actually WORKS instead of this Scorsese/DiCaprio, Burton/Depp, Spielberg/Cruise bullshit
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
also
I R EXCITED
four in a row if he does go ahead and make eastern promises 2 then
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
It originally wasn't meant to be a Viggo Vehicle, he just came on board when Christoph Waltz turned down the Freud role... i assume we will all be richer for this
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
no wait i forgot he's making cosmopolis next
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
hes been ruining traffic on my street shooting a don delillo adaptation w/ the dude from twilight for the last month
― "what a great post" - some (Lamp), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
a friend of mine tells this good viggo story that ends with some woman screaming I'M THE ONE WHO WAKES UP NEXT TO VIGGO'S STIFF DICK EVERY MORNING OK
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah see above. remembered after i posted. dude from twilight is the only possible way to step down from colin farrell so idk about this
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Was that a boast or complaint?
Maybe Viggo is a lucky charm at this point, as the last two got Cronenberg more mainstream cred than his last few before that. Dude's gunning for Oscars ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
if cronenberg was gonna do any delilo he shoulda done running dog
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
think she was in the middle of an argument between viggo n someone else and was asked to take sides, everyone in the room got really quiet after that
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
kinda hoping Cronenberg returns to sci-fi/horror at some point tbh, although he has definitely been on a good streak lately
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
i mean its about porn starring hitler. surely that has to punch all the cronenbergian buttons at once.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
didn't know he was doing Cosmopolis, reading the casting history is bizarre (from colling farrel/marion cotillard to robert pattinson/keira knightly to pattingson/Juliette Binoche?)
― akm, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
sorry for all the extra gs
kiera knightley? really?
― i love the smell of facepalm in the morning (ledge), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
works for me http://i.imgur.com/i2WnO.gif
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
viggo seems like a bro but the kinda bro where youd have to tell him you need some sleep 36 hours into a brodown weekend when he's still raring to discuss spinoza and carve a mountain flute out of goat horn.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
but he's probably play you a lullaby on his mountain flute so it's all good
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
i can't see why they didn't go with something simple like spanking miss knightley
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
no. 1 sign this is going to go HAM: her accent
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
okay the spank scene where dude is windmilling like she's a guitar = lol
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
david cronenberg's "daddy issues"
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
david cronenberg's "daddy day care"
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
Would be better if Fassbender wore the Magneto helmet and cape.
― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
As long as it's better than Phil Kaufman's "Quills," I'll be happy enough.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
viggo seems like a bro but the kinda bro where youd have to tell him you need some sleep 36 hours into a brodown weekend when he's still raring to discuss spinoza and carve a mountain flute out of goat horn.― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:29 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
ha! he is indeed a bro.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 03:31 (twelve years ago) link
the kinda bro where youd have to tell him you need some sleep 36 hours into a brodown weekend when he's still raring to discuss spinoza and carve a mountain flute out of goat horn
this is awesome in conception, but i do not believe in such bros
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
having watched the making-of features on the lotr dvds -- "let's not go back to our hotels and camp out and watch the sunrise!" "but viggo we have a 6 am makeup call tomorrow." "aw come on, i'll kill, skin, and cook a goat by hand if that sways yr vote" -- i believe it to be true.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link
Let's not forget bro sired a child with Exene Cervanka.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
man christoph walz, what a dumbass
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
remember viggo on fox news w/kucinich during election season?
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
no, Christoph Waltz, what a dumb original choice.
wd've played like a Martin Short SCTV sketch w/out laughs
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
so M. Butterfly is the only other time DC adapted a play?
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
s'okay. its real biopic-y, which i wasnt expecting and i think weakened the movie. the final shot is the same as the final shot in eastern promises. i liked viggo best in it
― maghrib is back (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
loved a history of violence, but am starting to have serious doubts about act III cronenberg
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
its real biopic-y,
I found this very much NOT so!
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
ppl got on Knightley's case, and she's uneven, but it's the toughest of the 3 principle parts. Viggo is a v funny gameplaying daddy Freud.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
And yes, Cassel was a blast.
― Get wolves (DL), Monday, 25 June 2012 08:59 (eleven years ago) link