I HATE APPLE

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I used to be against auto-hide for some reason, but now it's right-side dock, hidden, all the way.

I haven't really run into that many bugs and it looks fine to me, haters. I can hate Apple for completely different reasons, though.

mh, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

guys if you really want to fuckin' geek th' fuck out on screen graphics -- like me, I mean -- apple is the wrong OS. GTK basically uses stylesheets with a splash of python, and it's hella customizable, and Murrine is like the next gen of that with all kinds of fun alpha transparency and glassiness. It's all good times for people who like to make things pretty.

kenan, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i need a full, viable OS

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link

There's all sorts of graphics pipeline problems with Linux/X/GTK that make it a dog.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

kenan, that is why I used the enlightenment window manager (speedy and customizable!) and hung out on their irc channel for a couple years, before I realized that my time would be better spent elsewhere. Most GTK themes are pretty fugly, and this Murine thing doesn't seem to be that much prettier off the shelf, although I am sure with my complete lack of graphic design skill I could make some amazing themes.

mh, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

If you can make an attractive website, you can make a GTK theme. Although I'm curious what trouble jon has run into.

kenan, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

O, this is nice: hadn't realised that you browse iPhoto, iTunes, iMovie and Aperture libraries from any Open... dialog box

stet, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

that you can

stet, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

quick look is dope too

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

sort of makes my document management software seem a little irrelevant

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

If you can make an attractive website, you can make a GTK theme. Although I'm curious what trouble jon has run into.

I haven't looked at GTK in like 3 years, but there are some major problems with the way the way stuff is composited in X11 versus OS X.


Quartz Compositor is the compositing engine used by Quartz 2D and other renderers, such as OpenGL, Core Image, and QuickTime. In Mac OS X 10.2 and later, Quartz Compositor uses the processors (GPUs) on supported graphics cards to vastly improve composition performance. This technology is known as Quartz Extreme, and is enabled automatically on systems with supported graphics cards.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

What is the app in your dock with the octopus icon?

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i just like fucking around a lot w/ custom icons.

from left to right:

finder, preview, mail
safari (the tidal wave icon)
omnifocus (the crosslegged dude)
omnioutliner pro (the crab)
devonthink pro (the octopus)

the funky walkie-talkie thing is ichat

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i just like fucking around a lot w/ custom icons.

from left to right:

finder, preview, mail
safari (the tidal wave icon)
omnifocus (the crosslegged dude)
omnioutliner pro (the crab)
devonthink pro (the octopus)

the funky walkie-talkie thing is ichat

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

quick look is dope too

-- moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:15 (46 minutes ago) Link

This is the only Leopard feature I give a shit about. I'm still running 10.4 until I finish current project and feel like I am missing out on nothing. I might feel differently if I needed Time Machine, which is pretty awesome (assuming it works, I haven't seen it in action yet).

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

so:

1. finish project
2. get this fixed under warranty: http://www.flickr.com/groups/crackedmacbook/ and get new grease-and-dead-skin-free keyboard and trackpad for free at the same time, yay. black macbook is very gross and mayonnaisey.
3. install leopard, bootcamp, XP and the orange box
4. disappear into half life for fortnight

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

The Finder is better except if you're 95 years old and come into my office and complain about font sizes twice weekly

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

better how? can it be summarised? or do I need to either use it or read siracusa's novella to understand?

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

weirdness: i dropped my powerbook a month ago and the shift key went flying off. the underneath pieces were smashed up so i got a brand-new new keyboard for free under applecare. i dropped my laptop six months ago and the corner of the case got smashed and they *wouldn't* give me a new case for free under applecare.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

new grease-and-dead-skin-free keyboard

i swear by iskin

http://www.iskin.com/faq/images/mb_sm.jpg

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

also makes the whole thing much less "clicky", useful for in-class / sleeping fiancee scenarios

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

i do not have fiancee : (

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

what is a good, free text editor that does syntax hi-lighting in HTML that I can recommend to a friend? I use Vim so I'm out of the loop on this. Something like SubEthaEdit or Textmate but simpler and free.

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you can still get BBEdit Lite

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

TextWrangler is what Tracer means.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Is TextMate worth it?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Man... speaking of icons, the Bare Bones people really suck at them. Along with a couple other choice examples of graphic terpitude, I HAD to replace the icon for BBEdit in my dock. (Candy Bar is one of my favorite hoonja-doonjas.)

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I should change my dock to something nicer...

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I like TextMate and own it, but I haven't played with it enough to endorse it above all others. The extension that lets you download and install other extensions is pretty sweet.

mh, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i dropped my laptop six months ago and the corner of the case got smashed

i did this two weeks ago. not sure if the airtunes trouble i've had since is related or not.

TextMate has proved 100% worth it for me (for LaTeX). I imagine any other geeky writing will justify it, too.

toby, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

If you already know your way around Vim or emacs then I get the impression from playing with Textmate for a couple of days that it isn't worth it. It costs infinity per cent more than either and can do less. But if you're using anything less sophisticated than that and you do serious text editing then it's definitely worth looking at. I never got BBedit, but then I am under 30.

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

p.s. the answer to my question turns out to have been Smultron.

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i dropped my laptop six months ago and the corner of the case got smashed

i did this two weeks ago. not sure if the airtunes trouble i've had since is related or not.

May have dislodged the aerial from the airport card. Not sure which mac you have but on some it is easy to re-seat.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

macbook pro. i think they keyboard is going to need replacing at some point (it occasionally fails to work on waking up from sleep), so maybe i could get that fixed at the same time?

toby, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

toby, there was a recent "keyboard firmware update" that seemed to fix the issue with the keyboard not waking correctly for me. It's the only thing I've never had install correctly from Software Update, but running the updater in Applications/Utilities worked.

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I should change my dock to something nicer...

Yeah, it helps. I stuck mine in one corner, which makes more of a difference in space management than you'd think, and then with Candy Bar replaced the "glass" background with an opaque png that matched my background-- it seems that there's a kind of mirror.png permanently on the layer behind the bar itself, and the more transparent the bar is the more of that really-annoying-bad-bad-idea reflection you get. So, thusly:

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/better_dock.png

I'm finding it even less intrusive than the "simple" version that you get when you put the dock left or right. (You can do that on the bottom, too, if you like -- Candy Bar has a handy check box for that.)

kenan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Macbook Airs = overheating, poorly designed shitboxes. LOL

http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/apple-fans-burned-by-hot-airs/2008/03/13/1205126082565.html

SeekAltRoute, Thursday, 13 March 2008 07:23 (sixteen years ago) link

the problem with that opaque blue 3-d dock idea is that it's not so good on a 12" pb because i tend to keep the windows maximized to use all of the screen space. so then i just get a blue pop-up on a gray/white background which is fug.

can't we make the glass background TRANSPARENT??

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 March 2008 07:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd go farther than that if I had the chance -- I'd scrap the whole shitty thing and start over.

kenan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 07:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm doing left dock right now and i'm OK with that. some custom icons tend to pile up on each other a bit though.

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 March 2008 07:57 (sixteen years ago) link

you have to give 'em padding, yo.

kenan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 08:01 (sixteen years ago) link

specifically, about 10px all around at 128, 20 at 256, etc. Not counting shadows.

kenan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 08:05 (sixteen years ago) link

at first i was wigged out by the very dark slate gray theme but now i realize it makes everything look sharper, which is cool.

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 March 2008 08:07 (sixteen years ago) link

also i'm still impressed by how *fast* it is. seems faster than tiger!

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 March 2008 08:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Macbook Airs = overheating, poorly designed shitboxes. LOL

Not that I don't think Apple are totally irresponsible when it comes to shit like this, but I've gotta direct my LOLs at the yahoos who ran right out and bought "the world's thinnest laptop" from a company with a good, solid history of rushing -- furious, panting- red-faced -- everything to market. Do "early adopters" not understand that getting rid of heat is kind of a little bit of an engineering problem?

kenan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 08:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, of course Apple is the problem, not dumb-ass spendy computer users. They had to know the thing was going to overheat constantly. Unless they conduct their testing in the same room that old Dr. Chew made eyes for replicants in. I can tell it's going to overheat from looking at the subway poster.

kenan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 08:20 (sixteen years ago) link

iCal is 1000000x better in leopard

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

As is Mail.app

Ed, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

DockDoctor widget allows you to change the look of your dock at the push of a button. it only has two options but the 2D dock works visually for me anyway.

http://innermindmedia.com/dock_doctor_widget.html

jed_, Thursday, 13 March 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link


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