If you actively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything.

i missed its brutal, unrelenting idiocy

What's wrong with brutal, unrelenting idiocy? We all love the Ramones, nicht wahr?

heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man.

amen!

"heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man"

OTM, and I hpe we can part as friends on that one,

This is a great thread, but I kinda regret reviving it. Having three CCR threads among all Geir's polls for a couple of days was rad though.

chronicles vol. 1

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Tom - yeah, you might have a point there. A lot of people seem to know "Bad Moon Rising" and "Fortunate Son", but often don't know who it's by.

I personally think that CCR didn't have the kind of "media presence" here that they did in the US. A lot of rock''roll memory is about associating a name to a face. I kind of think that the British equivalent is T-Rex. Lot's of Americans probably know "Get It On" ("Bang A Gong"), but didn't have enough TV exposure of Marc Bolan for T-Rex to become iconic in the USA.

I understand where you are coming from with the Status Quo reference, but I think the USA vs. UK disconnect is due to the different ways our respective media work (especially TV) than any profound musical differences.

Dude we love T. Rex

But not in the same way you love CCR. Which is kind of my point.

i dunno, there's a lot of love for them (T. Rex) over here.

C'mon, as PhilK said there are a handful of T Rex songs that are huge in the US, but T Rex doesn't have anything like the profile of CCR on e.g. classic rock radio. You can regularly hear 80% of Chronicle vol 1 there, but the only T Rex you'll regularly get is "Get It On".

They're both great bands (imho obv.)

But I'm talking in kind of "folk memory" terms, which is admittedly vague, but...

The difference I sense is that CCR have a strong sentimental appeal to Americans - they're the kind of consensus band that everyone can love, through various generations, whereas T-Rex have a different kind of appeal - more different, more alien.

And the same applies to T-Rex in the UK - generally they have a univeral cross-generational appeal, whereas CCR are more of a niche classic rock/americanophile band (and I'm an americanophile at heart).

Of course, this may just be my personal perception, but it seems to be "true" to me.

did CCR ever tour the UK...?

cuz that might explain a bit.

if I had a band we would start every show with "Ramble Tamble."

but chooglin' though

truer now than it ever was

"by the way, in 1969, Bayou Country reached #41 on Billboard's "Black Albums" chart"

Led Zep were on the black LP chart too that year

while both bands were undeniably influenced by black music, somehow or another those groups on the soul listings is kinda farfetched

Wow. Creedence really is a black hole for us Britishers. 2 questions : Why any good? Where to start?

1) Chooglin'
2) Records

how did i never see ian post this and post to it?

I'd say the best entry point would be "Green River" (altho all the LPs are remarkably solid, with the possible exception of their swansong, "Mardi Gras")

Explaining WHY they are great is a bit more complex.

Where to start? Chronicle Volume 1. Why any good? Read the thread.

Does ben hate CCR?

ooh yeah Chronicles Vol 1 has all the hits, I forgot about their collections.

altho it should be noted that that's all the singles, and the weirder/crazier/more interesting stuff like Ramble Tamble (which I think one the CCR POO poll?) and Pagan Baby and such are not on there

eh nevermind maybe I guess there was just a singles poll, not a POO

jesus no! (see the dating zeppelin thread) i feel like we must have gone over this very topic though in the friday warehouse...thread and that i must have provided my "creedance is the grand unifier" theory in the "we can all agree" thread at some point...

i guess i ignore ilm so regularly in recent years, i just missed it

i have trust and love for those who actively love ccr, steely dan, and fleetwood mac

I love this thread. Thomas, as a Brit who gets Creedence, yeah, the best place to start if probably with Chronicles Vol. 1. Nuthin' but smashes. I'm jealous of you. Your first few listens will be like discovering the greatest singles band ever for the first time.

Your first few listens will be like discovering the greatest singles band ever for the first time.

How does Alex in NYC feel about CCR?

I'm looking forward to this. will report back tomorrow.

Your first few listens will be like discovering the greatest singles band ever for the first time.

I remember hearing CCR for the 1st time when i got the chronicles cd in the mid 90s. I was amazed they werent that well known here in the uk apart from 1 uk no1 single as that singles comp is one awesome single followed by even more awesome singles. 1st album proper i heard was Cosmo's factory so i'd suggest getting that too.

If you love Chronicle then I say just get the box set.

yeah..theres some filler on the box, but...worth it otherwise to have the rest

a. thomas does not represent us all
b. omar little otm.

c. chronicles 1 is just about superseded by this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bad-Moon-Rising-Creedence-Clearwater/dp/B0000C4LZ7/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1204250965&sr=1-8 so i would say get that if you see it on the rack. otherwise the former is cheaper on amazon.

Wow. Creedence really is a black hole for us Britishers

What utter shite.

Honestly, I'm not sure I know anyone who doesn't like Creedence

you've already had this argument Tom - last October upthread.

you've got to admit that compared to the US CCR don't have anywhere near the same cultural influence. sure they have their fans and they may have sold a few records back in the day but it's not exactly staple-diet stuff is it?

Ha ha, yeah, I know we've had this argument before... but a "CCR is a black hole for Britishers"? Come on, that's obviously bollocks... received wisdom, I-read-it-somewhere-it-must-be-true bollocks... y'know, like "Punk starting as a reaction against Prog" or "The Winter of Discontent" etc

Does CCR have any great 'influence' in the current scheme of things in the UK?

Computer says noh.

Seriously though, what American rock bands were selling lots of records in the UK in the late 60s/ early 70s? Were there any? The only one I can think of is Canned Heat!

The Eagles?

um

Hendrix
Dylan
Doors
Byrds
CSNY
Beach Boys

& lots more surely

Oh, CCR sold well over here, sure!

8 Creedence Clearwater Revival Proud Mary Single May 1969
1 Creedence Clearwater Revival Bad Moon Rising Single Aug 1969
19 Creedence Clearwater Revival Green River Single Nov 1969
20 Creedence Clearwater Revival Green River Album Jan 1970
31 Creedence Clearwater Revival Down On The Corner Single Feb 1970
10 Creedence Clearwater Revival Willy And The Poor Boys Album Mar 1970
8 Creedence Clearwater Revival Travellin' Band Single Apr 1970
3 Creedence Clearwater Revival Up Around The Bend Single Jun 1970
20 Creedence Clearwater Revival Long As I Can See The Light Single Sep 1970
1 Creedence Clearwater Revival Cosmo's Factory Album Sep 1970
8 Creedence Clearwater Revival Pendulum Album Jan 1971
36 Creedence Clearwater Revival Have You Ever Seen The Rain Single Mar 1971
36 Creedence Clearwater Revival Sweet Hitch-Hiker Single Jul 1971

xpost Eagles were post 1975

Tell you what though, the doors?

15 Doors Hello I Love You, Won't You Tell Me Your Name? Single Aug 1968
16 Doors Waiting For The Sun Album Sep 1968 Notes
12 Doors Morrison Hotel Album Apr 1970 Notes
28 Doors L.A. Woman Album Jul 1971 Notes
22 Doors Riders On The Storm Single Oct 1971

i.e. not much at the time!

Hendrix
Dylan
Doors
Byrds
CSNY
Beach Boys

& lots more surely

Hendrix doesn't really count. It's entirely possible that CCR sold more records in the UK than all of those acts in 1969/70. The Byrds couldn't get arrested after 1967. Beach Boys weren't doing much business either. The Doors possibly. Dylan, doubt it. I'm not sure how popular CSN(Y) actually were in the UK.