EXPRESSO 2222: the semi-official BRAZILIAN MUSIC LISTENING CLUB.

anyone found a way to listen to this outside of america yet? may have to *gasp* do it the illegal way.

maybe I've been spending too much time in the SST poll threads but about halfway through this novos baianos jam I start thinking the minutemen learned everything they knew from them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD2PcMgm-lE

I keep waiting for d boon to start yelling about capitalism

Love that we went from samba hippies to the Minutemen so quickly. Maybe this is the best brazilian album of all time?

Man, what a great moment would be Mike Watt jamming with Pepeu Gomes

Have burned this and will listen to at work :) (Also burned that Starlito mixtape to the same disc) rip my ipod long live my old cd walkman

I've tracked down and listened to just about every album on that RS Brazil list, and I can say that some of them are questionable. I really don't understand Chico Science and Nacao Zumbi, but then again, I don't understand Portuguese either.

Love that Jorge Ben album, would probably be my favorite of his if Gil e Jorge doesn't count, although his self-titled '68 album is almost as good as A Tabua. My favorite track on A Tabua would have to be "Minha Teimosia, Uma Arme Pra Te Conquistar."

Chico Science e Nação Zumbi are the most important Brazilian name of the 90s IMHO

hmmm I don't know either - what are they like?

IMHO, like Red Hot Chili Peppers circa Blood Sugar Sex Magik.

sounds terrible

Really, I don't see any basis for comparing both bands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAY9VcjxPss

That's on Afrociberdelia, right? I admit I liked that more than Da Lama Ao Caos, which sounds exactly like RHCP any way you look at it: Shouty rapping over funk-rock, which is all I understand aurally, since I can't understand what it is they're talking about. And since the music on either album didn't affect me that much, I didn't care to find out.

Of the '90s stuff, I think I'd pick either Marisa Monte or Sepultura, though this list seems to have a huge blind spot when it comes to the '90s.

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Chico Science died in a car accident at age 30 and Nação Zumbi was his band. Their brand of Northeast Brazil funk, rock, rap, Brazilian percussion and more was known in northeast Brazil as manguebeat.

All of this^^^^ makes me hope someone ventures into the 80s, 90s, and 00s in this club. My knowledge is very much limited to early 60s to late 70s.

Who is up next week anyway? Matt?

I'm gonna write about CSNZ and defend them from the comparisons with RHCP. But before I do this, let me post the video of the true heir of Jorge Ben sound in the 00s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVPPnEs_FZs

Crosby Sills Nash & Zung?

hmmm I don't know either - what are they like?

See now, if you ready Chuck Eddy you would know. He got me interested in them, but I actually lost enthusiasm really quickly (but not before buying a couple of their CDs). "Maracatu Atomoico" is the one I like best, and I also found Da Lama Ao Caos more difficult to get into than Afrociberdelia.

whoah yeah that is some good shit. thx for the tip Shin!!! luv the fuzz. are you Brazilian? how are you up on this stuff...?

See now, if you read Chuck Eddy you would know.

lol I do not read Chuck Eddy because his opinions are notoriously unreliable and wrong

Yes Shakey I am Brazilian but I guess there are other regular posters here more into Brazilian records than me - I spent too much time listening to, I don't know, Sunn O)))

If you liked the Curumin video, this is him in Morning Becomes Eclectic. This is so cool

http://www.kcrw.com/media-player/mediaPlayer2.html?type=audio&id=mb090210curumin

Shin, let me just say that I'm more than willing to hear out what you have to say about Chico Science. I admit that I have huge blinders when it comes to this stuff and am eager to learn more, especially from someone who speaks the language!

But, musically, the RHCP comparison still stands for me.

I'm not saying it's impossible these guys NEVER listened to 'Blood Sugar' and I know they were really into A Tribe Called Quest and De La Soul but what sounds like rapping in their records has more to do with 'coco' or 'samba de coco', traditional chant and percussion from Brazilian Northeast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH3FbhEHA-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv7PttUFAII

Unfortunately, lala is no longer accepting new members and about to shut down. I will look elsewhere, later.

Okay, I am ready. Unlike earlier in this week, or last weekend, this is a good night for me for listening to music. My problem now is I have too many things to check out (this stuff, some of the 90s stuff, maybe some of the jazz listening club albums). But I'm starting with Pascoal, and I'm not going to live blog all my responses, but I will say that it's awfully "proggy," which isn't necessarily a bad thing but then again it tends to be--for me. It just reminds me of the sort of stuff I used to listen to a lot on the radio back in the 80s, lots of prog./fusion kinds of stuff. I think I'm naive enough about Brazilian music that if I had heard this back then, or for that matter, if I heard it now, I wouldn't necessarily recognize it as Brazilian, but might think it was some Euro. jazz-rock-prog band doing ethnic music. Just being honest here. It's not that I really dislike it, but it's a general area of music that I'm not drawn to these days.

Not into the chipmunk voices, or whatever you want to call them. I don't get why he does some of the stuff he does, which just ends up seeming like gratuitous eccentricity.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CYu4EeAdybM/R-A8lYJg6UI/AAAAAAAAAEE/OxqEEKwBkSc/s400/novosbaiano_novosbaia_101b.jpg

novos baianos f. c. > acabou chorare

"Just Listen" is pleasant, but I'm easy to please these days with mildly dissonant piano. Speaking of quoted material, did I hear a bit of a Thelonious Monk tune in part of this track (somewhat early in)? (If so, it's probably something obvious, I just don't know Monk).

Did he record any solo keyboard albums with no, or minimal, vocals? Serious question.

my fav album from hermetos "festa dos deuses"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpnyZi7BFHY

Enjoying this Jorge Ben album so far (not very far into it). This may be the first full album I've heard by him, despite starting a thread about wanting to hear more by him a few years back.

Administratively: Next week's selection will be chosen by talrose, who reserved it via email. (expresso2222 at gmail)

I listened to this Ben album like 3 times last night, it was v. enjoyable :D Surprised by how dubby it was at times, or maybe that was just my walkman being used for the first time in years?

I think 1974 is a little early to be influenced by dub (though I have no idea re: Ben), but there is a lot of really subtle and beautiful echo and reverb on that album, which is a big part of my liking it. I love how some of the songs sort of just dissolve into a very pleasant abstract psychedelia for a few moments. I use to put "Errare" on a lot of mixes for that reason.

heyo dudes this is a great idea

i've listened to "os alquimistas" soooo much. i love that song, like, times infinity.

only one i can't deal with really is that "jesus christ he is my BRO" song

but im jewish so

Is that OK if I do the week after Talrose's?

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but if you're jewish then Jesus really is your bro! ;)
actually I'm surprised this is the first complaint about that song. most reviews single it out as the album's only misstep. I actually like it well enough, particularly the way he sings "music" as "music-y," but totally get people's objections to it.

I don't like 'Brother' but I guarantee Jorge Ben is no Pat Robertson or whatever

tempted to pick damiao experiencia when I have a turn at the wheel

translation of a tábua de esmeralda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Tablet

I'm thinking about picking one of the strangest and rarest records in Brazilian music but I am not sure if everybody will be able to listen to it without appealing to *cough* illegal ways

murder??!

I think you don't have to go that far ;) But I don't want to break any rules here

better to raise the profile of an out-of-print classic than leave it moldering in the dustbin of history imo

otm

Why does he sing "Brother" in English, I wonder? Greater reach for his message? But whatever he believes, he doesn't seem to be a normal Evangelical of any sort with the occult stuff mixed in. (Granted, that doesn't mean he can't still be into evangelizing.) I liked the album overall, but don't have a lot to say about it and need to listen some more. Would this really be too early for a dub influence? I think I hear a dub influence on the last track of Willie Colon and Hector Lavoe's El Juicio, from the same time (in fact, the same year, if I recall correctly), so it may have been in the air. (Yes, I do realize they are not Brazilian.)

Listened on la la to the Ben album. I love his vocal melodies and the acoustic guitar strumming. I'm a fan of the Gil y Jorge album and need to get these earlier ones.