EXPRESSO 2222: the semi-official BRAZILIAN MUSIC LISTENING CLUB.

I'm gonna write about CSNZ and defend them from the comparisons with RHCP. But before I do this, let me post the video of the true heir of Jorge Ben sound in the 00s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVPPnEs_FZs

Crosby Sills Nash & Zung?

hmmm I don't know either - what are they like?

See now, if you ready Chuck Eddy you would know. He got me interested in them, but I actually lost enthusiasm really quickly (but not before buying a couple of their CDs). "Maracatu Atomoico" is the one I like best, and I also found Da Lama Ao Caos more difficult to get into than Afrociberdelia.

whoah yeah that is some good shit. thx for the tip Shin!!! luv the fuzz. are you Brazilian? how are you up on this stuff...?

See now, if you read Chuck Eddy you would know.

lol I do not read Chuck Eddy because his opinions are notoriously unreliable and wrong

Yes Shakey I am Brazilian but I guess there are other regular posters here more into Brazilian records than me - I spent too much time listening to, I don't know, Sunn O)))

If you liked the Curumin video, this is him in Morning Becomes Eclectic. This is so cool

http://www.kcrw.com/media-player/mediaPlayer2.html?type=audio&id=mb090210curumin

Shin, let me just say that I'm more than willing to hear out what you have to say about Chico Science. I admit that I have huge blinders when it comes to this stuff and am eager to learn more, especially from someone who speaks the language!

But, musically, the RHCP comparison still stands for me.

I'm not saying it's impossible these guys NEVER listened to 'Blood Sugar' and I know they were really into A Tribe Called Quest and De La Soul but what sounds like rapping in their records has more to do with 'coco' or 'samba de coco', traditional chant and percussion from Brazilian Northeast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH3FbhEHA-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv7PttUFAII

Unfortunately, lala is no longer accepting new members and about to shut down. I will look elsewhere, later.

Okay, I am ready. Unlike earlier in this week, or last weekend, this is a good night for me for listening to music. My problem now is I have too many things to check out (this stuff, some of the 90s stuff, maybe some of the jazz listening club albums). But I'm starting with Pascoal, and I'm not going to live blog all my responses, but I will say that it's awfully "proggy," which isn't necessarily a bad thing but then again it tends to be--for me. It just reminds me of the sort of stuff I used to listen to a lot on the radio back in the 80s, lots of prog./fusion kinds of stuff. I think I'm naive enough about Brazilian music that if I had heard this back then, or for that matter, if I heard it now, I wouldn't necessarily recognize it as Brazilian, but might think it was some Euro. jazz-rock-prog band doing ethnic music. Just being honest here. It's not that I really dislike it, but it's a general area of music that I'm not drawn to these days.

Not into the chipmunk voices, or whatever you want to call them. I don't get why he does some of the stuff he does, which just ends up seeming like gratuitous eccentricity.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CYu4EeAdybM/R-A8lYJg6UI/AAAAAAAAAEE/OxqEEKwBkSc/s400/novosbaiano_novosbaia_101b.jpg

novos baianos f. c. > acabou chorare

"Just Listen" is pleasant, but I'm easy to please these days with mildly dissonant piano. Speaking of quoted material, did I hear a bit of a Thelonious Monk tune in part of this track (somewhat early in)? (If so, it's probably something obvious, I just don't know Monk).

Did he record any solo keyboard albums with no, or minimal, vocals? Serious question.

my fav album from hermetos "festa dos deuses"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpnyZi7BFHY

Enjoying this Jorge Ben album so far (not very far into it). This may be the first full album I've heard by him, despite starting a thread about wanting to hear more by him a few years back.

Administratively: Next week's selection will be chosen by talrose, who reserved it via email. (expresso2222 at gmail)

I listened to this Ben album like 3 times last night, it was v. enjoyable :D Surprised by how dubby it was at times, or maybe that was just my walkman being used for the first time in years?

I think 1974 is a little early to be influenced by dub (though I have no idea re: Ben), but there is a lot of really subtle and beautiful echo and reverb on that album, which is a big part of my liking it. I love how some of the songs sort of just dissolve into a very pleasant abstract psychedelia for a few moments. I use to put "Errare" on a lot of mixes for that reason.

heyo dudes this is a great idea

i've listened to "os alquimistas" soooo much. i love that song, like, times infinity.

only one i can't deal with really is that "jesus christ he is my BRO" song

but im jewish so

Is that OK if I do the week after Talrose's?

xp
but if you're jewish then Jesus really is your bro! ;)
actually I'm surprised this is the first complaint about that song. most reviews single it out as the album's only misstep. I actually like it well enough, particularly the way he sings "music" as "music-y," but totally get people's objections to it.

I don't like 'Brother' but I guarantee Jorge Ben is no Pat Robertson or whatever

tempted to pick damiao experiencia when I have a turn at the wheel

translation of a tábua de esmeralda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Tablet

I'm thinking about picking one of the strangest and rarest records in Brazilian music but I am not sure if everybody will be able to listen to it without appealing to *cough* illegal ways

murder??!

I think you don't have to go that far ;) But I don't want to break any rules here

better to raise the profile of an out-of-print classic than leave it moldering in the dustbin of history imo

otm

Why does he sing "Brother" in English, I wonder? Greater reach for his message? But whatever he believes, he doesn't seem to be a normal Evangelical of any sort with the occult stuff mixed in. (Granted, that doesn't mean he can't still be into evangelizing.) I liked the album overall, but don't have a lot to say about it and need to listen some more. Would this really be too early for a dub influence? I think I hear a dub influence on the last track of Willie Colon and Hector Lavoe's El Juicio, from the same time (in fact, the same year, if I recall correctly), so it may have been in the air. (Yes, I do realize they are not Brazilian.)

Listened on la la to the Ben album. I love his vocal melodies and the acoustic guitar strumming. I'm a fan of the Gil y Jorge album and need to get these earlier ones.

i thought that said "GI Joe" album

better to raise the profile of an out-of-print classic than leave it moldering in the dustbin of history imo

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:34 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^this. I have no problem downloading things I'd never be able to buy.

you might as well say what it is tbh

nah, let em save it until it's his pick, why ruin the reveal?

I definitely agree with that last point, though I have yet to hear a bad Ben album (I haven't listened to anything past 1976) and funk fans might find Africa Brasil an even more welcoming entry point

But isn't Africa Brasil out of print or just a super expensive import?

Jorge Ben Jor S/D

Schedule: This week (starting Thursday): TalRose. Next week: Shin Oliva Suzuki. After that...well, we'll see now won't we?

I hereby nominate tuomas, shakey, me for future weeks

But isn't Africa Brasil out of print or just a super expensive import?

I think that's right. I don't work at a record store, but my sense is that something changed in the distribution of Brazilian music over here a couple of years ago. At any rate, back when I was first getting into Brazilian music about 6 or 7 years ago, I could buy Brazilian imports on CD at Dusty Groove for the same price as American CDs. Now they're all at least $20. Water (and Dusty Groove) were reissuing some tropicalia classics for a while, but I'm not sure they're even up and running anymore?

Dusty Groove does not have it now while Amazon.com in the US lists this:

Available from these sellers.

2 new from $282.79 6 used from $32.99 (most are $75 and up used) 1 collectible from $149.95

I can definitely do a week, yeah.

Administratively: Next week's selection will be chosen by talrose, who reserved it via email. (expresso2222 at gmail)

― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Saturday, May 1, 2010 9:56 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

^ sounds like this might be the process ^

http://i.s8.com.br/images/cds/cover/img1/21659981_4.jpg

Released earlier this year collecting the following albums

1. Samba Esquema Novo (1963)
2. Sacudin Ben Samba (1964)
3. Ben e Samba Bom (1964)
4. Big Ben (1965)
5. Jorge Ben (1969)
6. Força Bruta (1970)
7. Negro e lindo (1971)
8. Ben (1972)
9. Jorge Ben 10 Anos Depois (1973)
10. A Tabua de Esmeralda (1974)
11. Solta o Pavao (1975)
12. Gil & Jorge - Ogum Xango (1975)
13. Africa Brasil (1976)
14. Salve, Jorge! Raridades e Ineditas - Duplo (1963-1976) (rare/unreleased tracks, 2-CD)

Expensive and rare to find, though.

http://i.s8.com.br/images/cds/cover/img1/21659981_4.jpg

Duh

expensive and HARD to find (long day). Available on ebay.

wow!

notice "o bidu" isn't on that. now there's an album that needs a remaster badly.

yeah, I was just talking about the box set over here

Jorge Ben Jor S/D

if it's on ebay I wouldn't call it hard to find, plus it's not that expensive compared to how much it would cost to get all these individually. and the remaster of africa brasil in the boxset is fantastic sounding, not sure why they haven't released it outside the boxset unless it's some bizarre ploy to get people to plunk down for the set.