The future of Stereolab

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Sound Dust is something of a reclamation album, imo. Hated Dots and Loops, never owned it and probably never will.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

sound dust is my favorite stereolab album by a huge margin

iatee, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

"a tasteful but forgettable wash" = a strange complaint, cuz extended, basically tuneless droning is one of my favorite things about early stereolab. there was something very inviting and soothing about those early fuzz tunnels, though - thinking here of stuff like "contact". it didn't sound like pop, but it worked like pop, at least for me. i suppose that as their sound became less overtly psychedelic and monomaniacal, it became less welcoming to me, but perhaps more interesting to others?

contenderizer, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I personally like Dots and Loops, Cobra and Phases, and especially Sound Dust. Everything post-Mary Hansen hasn't been as good, but there have been plenty of enjoyable moments.

Is it wrong for me to say that they would be better if they found someone to replace Mary? The singer on the last Immitation Electric Piano album or the bassist/backup singer from Monade would both be great choices.

Moodles, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i should give sound dust another try. though it was clearly an attempt to reclaim some of their early territory and appeal, it didn't hook me immediately, and i wrote it off without giving it much of a chance. seems to have a lot of supporters, though.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

though it was clearly an attempt to reclaim some of their early territory and appeal

it doesn't sound like their early work at all tho! it does sound like some of their mid-career aluminum tunes era stuff

iatee, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that Sound-Dust was Tim Gane's attempt to sound like Holst's The Planets.

Moodles, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

KUDOS to gerald mcboing-boing. thx2u dawg.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

it doesn't sound like their early work at all tho! it does sound like some of their mid-career aluminum tunes era stuff

― iatee

well, that's what i hazily recall of my snap judgment from a decade back. that and the fact that i didn't much like it. [shrug] i'm probably way off-base.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

it's super, super lush - some of their earlier stuff hints and this, but none of it quite reaches it. holst is a pretty good reference - melody nelson too. (it's also their most 'french' album imo.)

iatee, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

hints at* this

iatee, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha, i started listening to the LOW-FI songs eagerly anticipating my first listen of these tracks until I realized that I actually owned this at one point in time (either 10" or plastic sleeve CDEP or maybe both :( lol)

ahhh ex-collectorism...

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

'Captain Easychord' on Sound Dust was the song that got me into them. Always thought they had a very appealing thing going on for them before but that's the one that really grabbed me.

Dots and Loops is my favorite Lp by them though.

Moka, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Sound Dust is really good, agreed! I came to it late cuz I hadn't been paying attention any more but I was thrilled when I finally heard it.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm with the bailed-after-Dots crowd, in fact I finally got around to selling it this year. The "Oscillons" box clued me in to some of their better post-Dots singles and of course it gathers up all their UK EPs, though it shuffles the order (which still works well, remarkably).

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't bail after D&L, but they weren't one of my favourite bands from then on. For me it was a gradual loss of interest (I didn't really appreciate "Sound Dust" until I heard the versions on "ABC Music") until "Margarine Eclipse", at which point I stopped caring completely.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I've said this elsewhere, but Dots and Loops really felt like a revelation to me when it came out, like I had been waiting all my life for an album that sounded like that. (Before that, I'd heard Emperor Tomato Ketchup and Transient Random Noise-Bursts, but they didn't have quite the same effect.) I was probably at the peak of my fandom in 1998-2000 -- bought a couple older albums I hadn't heard before (I particularly liked Mars Audiac Quintet) and really got into Aluminum Tunes and Cobra and Phases Group and First of the Microbe Hunters, too. So for me, it wasn't until Sound-Dust that I felt disappointed in them. And even then, it wasn't that I disliked it, it just seemed too predictable. And I suppose that's kind of how I feel about everything else they've released this decade.

jaymc, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

first of the microbe hunters is so awesome. i kind of wanna walk the earth with a boombox on my shoulder playing "outer bongolia" on repeat til the end of time

hobbes, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

The 1997 Peel session is kind of interesting

I'm listening to this now - what's the story with this? Is it live from Peel Acres or a proper Maida Vale Peel session?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 13 May 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Live from Maida Vale, according to the Peel Sessions book. Thanks for putting these tracks up btw.

Did Laetitia's album come out yet? She seemed to be playing everywhere the end of last year.

ketchup scam (useless chamber), Thursday, 13 May 2010 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

from a pre-Chemical Chords interview w/Tim Gane:

"I cut a loop from a record, and it’s so tiny it sounds like it’s blurring when you loop it. For instance a tiny sample of less than a second, half a second or something like that, and I loop it sixteen times and mix it down to a piece of audio, and then I find another loop and mix that down until I have eight different loops, and I put them in an order at kind of random. And then what we do is listen to what’s going on in the sample and try to excavate what we can hear. What you can hear, is difficult to hear, because it is so short and sort of blurring that you don’t know why you should play anything, so you don’t get any kind of even flow. You hear a little guitar, but I don’t actually write anything on it. We just kick out what we don’t think you can hear, but what you hear isn’t really exact, so it’s hard to tell what’s going on. ... For me it’s the loops we recreate and the real instruments, as the band, that reproduce these tiny little sounds."

no wonder stuff composed this way sounds tuneless

out 9/21 Laetitia Sadier TBA LP/CD
out 11/16 Stereolab Not Music 2xLP/CD

tylerw, Thursday, 27 May 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

A+++ will anticipate!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 27 May 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, interested to see what a Laetitia Sadier solo rec sounds like. I dig Monade.

tylerw, Thursday, 27 May 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

out 11/16 Stereolab Not Music 2xLP/CD

?! is this the other stuff they left off Chemical Chords...?

I was sorta unimpressed with the Monade records

emotionally abusive jowls (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 May 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

gonna assume it's a rarities collection of some sort ...
i'd say give monade another chance. it didn't make a big impression at first, but I came around to really liking it.

tylerw, Thursday, 27 May 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

where is this info coming from?

Moodles, Thursday, 27 May 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

email from drag city

tylerw, Thursday, 27 May 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Laetitia also has a song on a 4 way split 12" that we're on (srry for spam) that comes out in the fall i think? track is great.

underwater, please (bear, bear, bear), Thursday, 27 May 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

looks like "Not Music" is indeed the Chemical Chords II thing they had mentioned a while back. http://pitchfork.com/news/38978-new-stereolab-music-on-the-way/

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

And that is fully confirmed now via this promo mailout:

Not Music is Stereolab’s twelfth album and is released during the band’s self - imposed hiatus from recording and touring.

The tracks that make up Not Music were recorded in early 2007 - half of the recordings from the session would be released in August 2008 as Chemical Chords – Stereolab’s eleventh album!

About the recordings –

Tim Gane started messing with “a series of about seventy tiny drum loops” on top of improvised chord sequences using piano and vibraphone. “Building them up from there – later slowing the tracks down or speeding them up – a totally new way of doing songs for us…”

With typical prolificacy, the band laboured over the summer at their studio, Instant Zero (in Bordeaux, France), helping transform these blueprints into 32 luminous new songs, with keyboardist/technician Joe Watson manning the mixing desk.

Not Music will be released via Drag City November, 16, 2010.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

cool, looking forward to this. the 'Lab may be on hiatus but there's plenty of music to enjoy. The Laetitia solo album is a gem.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

heyyy, both of these records (the trip and not music) are awesome.

tylerw, Friday, 17 September 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

What are they like?

Moodles, Friday, 17 September 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

not music is obv. pretty similar to chemical chords since the songs come from the same sessions/era. some nice horn arrangements, cool bass lines. the highlight for me might be the 10-minute emperor machine mix of "silver sands" which out-kraftwerks kraftwerk. sadier disc doesn't sound like a radical departure from stereolab/monade. less manic/busy, more space in the arrangements. great nico-esque version of "summertime."

tylerw, Friday, 17 September 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i need to check the sadier. in my dl queue waiting to be unzipped.

not-music isn't anything special in imho, but this isn't shocking as it's from the chemchords session and that album also left me cold. it's like their hearts weren't in it, you know?

LAMBDA LAMBDA LANDA (Beatrix Kiddo), Friday, 17 September 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

"The future of Stereolab? Stereolab [i]is</is> the future, etc."

LAMBDA LAMBDA LANDA (Beatrix Kiddo), Friday, 17 September 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i know what you mean, but i seem to be a bigger fan of 21st century 'Lab than a lot of people. chemchords/not music isn't where i'd point a stereolab newbie or anything, but i still dig the sound. xp

tylerw, Friday, 17 September 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

sound dust is my favorite stereolab album by a huge margin

― iatee, Thursday, 13 May 2010 02:46 (5 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This.

Chemical Chords is nothing short of wall-to-wall genius but I cannot penetrate Not Music. I'll keep trying, but the point is I've not had to work at anything post Mars Audiac Quintet.

TS: Toad of Toad Hall v Wobbie of Wobbies World (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 October 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like if sound dust had been released as some band's first record instead of 'stereolab not making the music the fans wanted more of', more people would have realized how genius it is

iatee, Friday, 22 October 2010 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Sound-Dust is indeed incredible. It's like they had a second crack at Cobra and got it right.

Trawling previous threads, I found a long sequence in the Chem Chords thread in which that album sent me from boredom to orgasm in three days. Perhaps I should persevere with this new thing.

TS: Toad of Toad Hall v Wobbie of Wobbies World (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 October 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Sound-Dust is indeed incredible. It's like they had a second crack at Cobra and got it right.

So wrong! (I like Cobra much more than Sound-Dust.)

jaymc, Friday, 22 October 2010 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

"the highlight for me might be the 10-minute emperor machine mix of "silver sands" "

Agree with this...is it just me or is this album more atonal than usual? I wasn't paying close attention during the walk to work this morning so that might be wrong.

skip, Friday, 22 October 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

nice Vitamin Water commercial guys

No Broehner (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 July 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

What does Tim Gane do with his time now?

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

Revel in the idea that Alyssa Milano has possibly listened to his music.

this will surprise many (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

Did another soundtrack with Sean O'Hagan. Also produced the last High Llamas album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hXFJ-56jk0

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

Or was it mixed?

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

Did another soundtrack with Sean O'Hagan.

outer bongolia 2 imo

das ist not einer 不必 (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Did another soundtrack with Sean O'Hagan

good lord are these what pass for "pretty" people in France now?

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link


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