Winamp Sucks

Skinning is a bad feature. All the skins are ugly.
Nucleo Old School 4 life!!
p.s. iTunes since v.5 ahaha :-D and you're stuck with it...
The interface widgets are crowded.
Whatever, it saves screen space.
It doesn't support m4a.
It does now.
The Library is a joke.
it's slightly ugly, but pretty much comparable to iTunes in functionality (equally annoying/insufficient at times too!) except I can actually search by hard disk folder name unlike iTunes search.

"winampa.exe" is the Winamp Agent for playing MP3 files

afaik winampa.exe is some launch at start-up quick-start helper & update tool. Nothing to do with playing files... I either deselect it during install or remove it in msconfig from ever starting. I don't need it.

Winamp starts playing it back immediately. That's all I care about!!

-- Spencer Chow

so does iTunes, dood.

-- Pears can just fuck right off.

Alternatively Winamp can also enqueue! iTunes is fucking unbelievable for overlooking this. You click/select something - it plays! even if something else was playing in the meantime, it instantly interrupts/overrides it. Infuriating.

Winamp is better not just because iTunes sucks a million ways, but because it's still just better/smaller/faster. For every minor Winamp bug, iTunes has the performance of a three-toed sloth, UI decisions that though pretty, are terrible to actually USE and an added sense of intrusiveness into other processes & parts of your computer.

It doesn't just even out, it actually tips the balance from "ok, it's a mp3 program" to "fuck this p.o.s.!"

Can you keep a copy of iTunes on your flash drive like I do with my personal Winamp setup?

i am an itunes guy but this is so true

except I can actually search by hard disk folder name unlike iTunes search.
Again, the point is to not care about the disk representation.

afaik winampa.exe is some launch at start-up quick-start helper & update tool. Nothing to do with playing files... I either deselect it during install or remove it in msconfig from ever starting. I don't need it.
Did you even read the thread? My point was the memory usage in the image that dude linked for "winampa.exe" was not winamp's usage since winampa is the agent.

Alternatively Winamp can also enqueue! iTunes is fucking unbelievable for overlooking this. You click/select something - it plays! even if something else was playing in the meantime, it instantly interrupts/overrides it. Infuriating.

It'd be nice to have this for the few times I need it. (You can enqueue with drag and drop of course) But again, the point is that you use the iTunes library to browse your music, rather than a file browser.

IF YOU ARE USING A FILE BROWSER TO BROWSE MUSIC, WINAMP'S LIBRARY MUST BE WORSE THAN WINDOWS EXPLORER.

an added sense of intrusiveness into other processes & parts of your computer.
Like?

Can you keep a copy of iTunes on your flash drive like I do with my personal Winamp setup?

Why would I want to put a copy of winamp on a flash drive? So I can put 10 mp3s on the flashdrive and play them on any random computer I come to? Or I could put 20 on there and skip the winamp garbage. ;)

get one doublesize or keyboard shortcut, or skin with bigger buttons/better layout for eye troubles.

except I can actually search by hard disk folder name unlike iTunes search.
Again, the point is to not care about the disk representation.

No the point is to use whichever method springs to mind quickest to locate something I want to find, like my folder for "# Mixes" which, if not tagged as such in iTunes is -fuck all- use searching for a ID3 tag. Sometimes I want to find a group of files, without using explorer.

IF YOU ARE USING A FILE BROWSER TO BROWSE MUSIC, WINAMP'S LIBRARY MUST BE WORSE THAN WINDOWS EXPLORER.

no dude, I just don't do every single thing ever via apple's relational database model ffs!

Did you even read the thread? My point was the memory usage in the image that dude linked for "winampa.exe" was not winamp's usage since winampa is the agent.

I skimmed it but fair enough, it's still not an agent "for playing" mp3 files.

It'd be nice to have this for the few times I need it. (You can enqueue with drag and drop of course) But again, the point is that you use the iTunes library to browse your music, rather than a file browser.

The FEW times? I have Winamp set to "enqueue on click" since forever you must have -no idea- how maddening the lack of this feature is.

Oh but wait I can drag & drop instead?? from my search results? into a playlist? this is all workaround BS that is so much more fuss than a feature which should just be in there.

an added sense of intrusiveness into other processes & parts of your computer.
Like?

Re-organising all your filenames/folder structure/tags if you're not wise, stupid background processes for burning (if I don't have anything to burn today?), all sorts of crap.

Can you keep a copy of iTunes on your flash drive like I do with my personal Winamp setup?

Why would I want to put a copy of winamp on a flash drive? So I can put 10 mp3s on the flashdrive and play them on any random computer I come to? Or I could put 20 on there and skip the winamp garbage. ;)

A - portable, so that I can play whatever is on my iPod/2GB flash drive on any PC I sit at at work INCLUDING .m4a files which Windows Media Player won't do, and neither will iTunes, unless I install it. And for adding anything I've grabbed to my iPod library for the bus ride home. That's why!

I do realise absolutely anything is better than using OS X's "finder" though, like kicking yourself repeatedly in the balls for instance ;)

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9697/untitled1copy8oc.jpg

COLD. DEAD. HANDS. ok?

We all know doublesize is awful and all features should be easily accessable via the mouse. Time to use widget still a problem.

I want to find, like my folder for "# Mixes" which, if not tagged as such in iTunes is -fuck all- use searching for a ID3 tag.

Drag a playlist dir/m3u to the playlist list in itunes, drop. You now have a Playlist named whatever. Of course, if you use Winamp, a single file can't be in IAMAHUGEIDIOT and in IAMAMORON. Unless you use m3u files. Which you have to save.

Check out the "Pro" features (aka uncripples) and then all the EXTRA GREAT "features" (aka bundling) in Standard.

Here's what you get when you buy Pro:

Unrestricted CD Burning
Winamp Pro enables you to burn your favorite music compilations at your computer's full potential. Once registered, Winamp Pro will allow you to burn your CDs at speeds up to 48x, 9 times the speed of Winamp 5! (Actual speeds may differ, depending on your computer's specifications.)

MP3 Encoding
With Winamp Pro, you can rip all your favorite music CDs into the industry leading MP3 format. When all your songs are encoded in MP3, it provides you the freedom to play them in all MP3 capable hardware and software media players.

Unrestricted CD Ripping
Buying Winamp Pro enables you to convert all of your favorite music CDs into digital files at your computer's maximum potential. Once registered, Winamp Pro can rip your CDs at speeds up to 48x, 9 times the speed of Winamp 5! (Actual speeds may differ, depending on your computer's specifications.)

GUI knobs are annoying... so I always set mine to max and use another control (or get another skin if I cared)! It's not THAT hard.

I never said it's perfect! it's just that iTunes is *terrible*

I want to find, like my folder for "# Mixes" which, if not tagged as such in iTunes is -fuck all- use searching for a ID3 tag.

Drag a playlist dir/m3u to the playlist list in itunes, drop. You now have a Playlist named whatever. Of course, if you use Winamp, a single file can't be in IAMAHUGEIDIOT and in IAMAMORON. Unless you use m3u files. Which you have to save.

wtf?? Which playlist is this? ... the playlist of the physical files/folder from explorer/finder dropped into iTunes (does it update automatically?) or the playlist of the stuff I found in a search which didn't show up properly that I couldn't find??

None of this sounds quick to me!

actually, I don't even NEED to do this usually. I have a smart view set up in Winamp that filters everything in this /# mixes folder so I don't need to type it much, if ever. LAST time I checked iTunes didn't allow filters/searches relating to the -OH NOES!- actual hard disk directory, but this might have changed. Probably not though because it's bad because Apple thinks I am stupid for ever needing this feature or something? Ooookay.

I don't know who these people are who are constantly saving .m3u .whatever playlists outside of iTunes/Winamp Library. You're making out like this is something essential people need to do to use Winamp! Tag/name your files properly instead or something, it works just as well as -

list.m3u
1) bulshit file.m4a
2) filefromkazzaa.mp3
3) 1-brittanyspears-lucky.mp3

Don't blame Winamp for dumb users or I'll just point you to all the "where did my music go I lost it all when iTunes updated boo hoo" threads in response.

xpost

does it update automatically?

NO I AM TALKING ABOUT HOW BRAIN DEAD IDIOTS LIKE YOU CAN IMPORT THEIR STUPID FILESYSTEM STRUCTURES TO ITUNES!

LAST time I checked iTunes didn't allow filters/searches relating to the -OH NOES!- actual hard disk directory

WHY WASTE TIME ORGANIZING THAT STUFF? ITUNES META INFO BUILDS THE TREE FOR YOU = ONLY ONE PLACE TO MANAGE THAT

I don't need any of it though :/
iTunes doesn't even get the "playing" bit right enough for me, never mind trusting it with additional functions that other programs handle, like ripping (Exact Audio Copy/LAME) & tagging (plenty of windows programs, NOTHING even acceptable on Macs esp. not iTunes).

The thing that bugs me about iTunes is it has been fucking up zero second track crossfades for several versions.

-- R.I.P. Concrete Octop

Fucks sake.

Yeah I wasted so much time that one time I did it and now never have to type that search again! I thought you people liked smart searches??!

Fucks sake.

I keep files I have tagged and files I haven't apart.
I keep files which are part of a structure (album, e.p.) and files which are not (single mp3's, mixes etc) APART.

IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??

They don't get mixed up in one big mess, and also additionally if I want to, I can add BOTH to the database, still not mixing them up but having access to each as I wish. BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!

iTunes didn't let me do this last time I checked. so fuck iTunes and it's "there is only one way and that is the new way" bullshit.

"TURN THAT OPTION OFF THEN
WHAT IF I WANT IT ON NORMALLY?"
well if you want it BOTH ways, you can hold down apple key to temporarily over-ride that setting :-)

-- Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (AlanTrewarth...) (webmail), March 21st, 2006 12:23 PM. (Alan) (later) (link)

while dragging in the mp3 i mean obv
-- Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (AlanTrewarth...) (webmail), March 21st, 2006 12:23 PM. (Alan) (later) (link)

NEVER HAVE TO.... UNTIL YOU MOVE STUFF IN YOUR PRECIOUS FILESYTEM

WHAT IS IN YOUR "#MIXES" DIRECTORY

iTunes would be a LOT more pleasing to me (and even convince me to maybe give up using a well-organised , uncomplicated dir structure as non-program backup organisation) if the inbuilt ID3 tagging functions weren't woefully inadequate & inconsistent & requiring of constant micromanagement, compared with many dedicated Windows ID3 programs.

I never said iTunes is difficult to use. Just that it doesn't do some things Winamp does. And the things it lacks tend to unfortunately be things that make my life easier & happier.

here's one i prepared earlier
http://www.lolrider.com/lol/shoutcast.jpg

turned it off. and...
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http://www.lolrider.com/lol/visualisation.JPG

also, i've never ever had any problems running any version of winamp on any pc, even really super shitty ones.

The iPod support is simple & sturdy enough, but has a majorly annoying "feature" that if you leave the album tag* blank, when transferred across to your iPod, it guesses(?) and steals the track title info.

This is getting in the way of trying to separate albums & non-album material. Grrr.

The non-album stuff is in a playlist, it _shouldn't_ be showing up elsewhere.

iTunes really isn't flexible enough for me, but I do understand why more people use it.

Going to muddle through & maybe uninstall the iPod support & reinstall the old plugin (worked fine, but was annoying to configure) :/

*note: none of these files are in the Media Library, so it shouldn't be that that's causing problems unless there's some intermingling going on.

Either way... fixed, but Winamp's in-built iPod (and other devices) support is nowhere near good enough (fully featured) or usable (see crap like above) as the iPod (only) plug-in.

:(

Since I upgraded my version of Winamp recently, I've noticed that I am getting a glitch pretty frequently when I load web pages! This has never happened before that I can recall. Should I be using something else at this point? Has Windows Media Player gotten any better? I may try it regardless, as I am sick of what Winamp is doing.

yep, same here. i thought it was soemthing to do with my outboard soundcard and not necessarily the new winamp as when i use my internal soundcard there are no problems, but now you mention it.

windows media player is still horrific, i'm sure
i am down w/musikCube.
foobar2000 is probably the best out there but you have to set up a lot of stuff (like the layout) yourself, which can be a drag